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Scott McLaughlin

If a racing driver does not take the green flag of a race, they did not start the race and should be listed as a DNS in results tables. MOH is the proper abbreviation for the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, not MDO. Electricmemory (talk) 18:24, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please only revert the IP vandalism, and not my legitimate edits. Electricmemory (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits were incorrect, which is why they were reverted. Assadzadeh (talk) 19:55, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your points:

Please provide a source that confirms that if a driver does not take the green flag, then they should be listed as a DNS in the results tables. Otherwise, McLaughlin will be listed as finishing in 33rd place, per IndyCar's official results.
The correct abbreviation for Mid-Ohio is MDO, not MOH. Please refer to the race results for other drivers. Assadzadeh (talk) 18:29, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DNS means Did Not Start. A green flag is the race start. it's not rocket science.

Mid-Ohio is only listed as MDO in Indycar results tables. It's incorrect and they should all be changed to MOH. See for example the tables in every NASCAR article. Electricmemory (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will wait until after official race results have been published by IndyCar before arguing further. However, if you are going to change it on McLaughlin's page, then you need to change it on 2025 Indianapolis 500 too, to be consistent, but I don't think other editors will agree with the change.
Results tables for IndyCar drivers don't need to be consistent with those for NASCAR drivers. So, unless you are going to update the tables for every IndyCar driver, past and present, then please leave them as they are. Assadzadeh (talk) 18:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Assadzadeh It appears IndyCar did indeed classify McLaughlin, however this is uncommon as usually a driver who didn't take the green flag is a DNS. As for the Mid-Ohio abbreviation, it needs to be as consistent as possible among all tables to avoid confusion. Should it be MOH or MDO? Electricmemory (talk) 20:39, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That may be the case in NASCAR or F1, but as far as I know, a DNS in IndyCar is when a driver does not even attempt to start the race (e.g. a driver who crashes their car during the morning practice session and the pit crew is unable to repair it in time for the afternoon race), not when a driver crashes prior to the green flag.

As for the Mid-Ohio abbreviation, I have always seen MDO for IndyCar race results. So, if it's MOH for NASCAR, then hundreds, if not thousands of drivers' race results tables would have to be updated to make them consistent with each other.

You are welcome to post a message on Wikipedia:WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing for others' opinions. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:59, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See for example Isack Hadjar at the 2025 Australian Grand Prix. Odd that it'd be different.

It's MDO on nearly every IndyCar-related page, and MOH for every single NASCAR page. Regardless of what you think it should be, it really should be consistent among all. I've added a note on that talk page. Electricmemory (talk) 21:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Historical WNBA

Hi Assadzadeh! I noticed you've been formatting some tables for historical WNBA seasons. Thanks for the help! I just wanted to mention that a lot of the historical season pages need a lot of work too. I've created a list over on the project page. I know this is a huge amount of work and some of us have been plugging away at it as we can. Just wanted to make you aware. Swimmer33 (talk) 13:26, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Swimmer33 Yes, starting with 1997 WNBA season and up through 2024 WNBA season, I've added tables to the Awards section for Player of the Week, All-WNBA, All-Defensive, and All-Rookie teams, if they were missing, and changed the formatting so that the articles are consistent with each other. I do have some comments, though:

Although the weekly and monthly awards are announced as the season progresses, once the end-of-the-season awards (e.g., MVP, All-WNBA teams) are announced, they should be listed at the beginning of the section, as they're more important than the others and provide an overview of the season. So, I have been moving the end-of-the-season awards to the beginning of the section.
The end-of-the-season awards were listed under the heading Postseason awards, which I felt was misleading, since they're awarded based on performance during the season and not the postseason. So, I split the table in two and created separate headings Individual and Team to differentiate between the two award categories.
I added a reference from the WNBA to each season's section that correlates the weekly, monthly, and end-of-the-season award winners. I note that the Finals MVP is also listed in the article's end-of-the-season table, but it is in fact a postseason award. While I don't have an issue with this, a separate reference needs to be provided for it.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions on how to improve this section as I'm still going through the seasons. Assadzadeh (talk) 15:18, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think what you've done looks good! I don't have any issues with how you've changed up the tables. You're right, a separate reference for Finals MVP would need to be provided, but it might be difficult to find. The award page only has one reference so you could always use that one going back. Generally, I've tried to make pages look similar to their NBA counter parts. I think the tables are a clearer way to show awards as opposed to what the NBA season pages show. Thanks for all your help! Swimmer33 (talk) 17:05, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2025

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In the future, please use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history, as well as helping prevent edit conflicts. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the page will look like without actually saving it.

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It is strongly recommended that you use this before saving. If you have any questions, contact the help desk for assistance. Your "corrections" broke file links on a dozen articles and put 63 articles in a category that didn't exist. Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 21:22, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sumanuil The updates were made as a result of the discussion on the Stanley Cup Final's talk page to change from "Stanley Cup Finals" to "Stanley Cup Final", which involves many articles, categories, files, etc. Once all of them are updated, there won't be any broken links. Assadzadeh (talk) 22:08, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the categories probably should not be "updated", as they are about multiple events. Also, blindly "fixing" every instance of "finals" tends to result in nonsense like "The Stanley Cup Final, also known as the Stanley Cup Final". Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 01:38, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct, they need to be reverted. Assadzadeh (talk) 04:00, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2026 FIFA World Cup

Good day. I noticed you have been using the "official" language in the FIFA guidance in the article. However, it has been determined that the English Wikipedia will use American English in the article. Please see Talk:2026 FIFA World Cup#Reiteration of MOS:ENGVAR and MOS:RETAIN. Please be advised that any further attempts to add hyphens to "playoffs", "quarterfinals", or "semifinals", or to otherwise intentionally re-insert non-American English to the article will be regarded as edit warring and dealt with as such. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:13, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I was not attempting to add hyphens to "playoffs", "quarterfinals", or "semifinals", as the article included them to begin with. I was merely reverting a previous editor who had removed them. Also, most of the discussions referenced on the talk page that you mentioned are in regards to changing "soccer" to "football" or vice versa. So, unless I missed it, I did not see a single discussion regarding the use of hyphens, or lack thereof, nor is it tied to American vs British English. This is analogous to the use of "non-" vs. "non" at the beginning words (e.g. "non-specific" vs. "nonspecific"), which are both acceptable in American English. It just so happens that Americans are used to seeing the non-hyphenated (or should I say nonhyphenated) versions "playoffs", "quarterfinals", and "semifinals", because that's what the media uses.

Therefore, please do not assume that I'm edit warring. As I mentioned above, I was trying to restore the article to its previous version. Finally, I think it's important that this article stay consistent with FIFA's terminology, even if doesn't seem correct to Americans. Another editor recently changed "Greatest number of points" to "Higher number of points". As I mentioned to them, this could have unforeseen consequences, as the two words may have different meanings in different versions of the English language. Assadzadeh (talk) 17:08, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your message on my talk page and was unable to take the time to respond earlier today. With all due respect, your argument is a strawman. "FIFA's terminology" simply isn't relevant to an ENGVAR issue. If it were, then (as I noted in the edit summary that upset you) we would be stuck using the ambiguous term "football" in all soccer-related articles simply because it is the term FIFA uses—and, of course, there are some users who not only demand that we do just that but who try to take it to extremes by doing absurd things like changing "Major League Soccer" to "Major League Football," which I know we would all (except the trolls) agree is wrong regardless of ENGVAR issues because it's a proper name. The omission of the hyphens the Brits use will not confuse any reader. Yes, there are some readers who will say "I don't like it." An example of that can be seen earlier this week in this edit to the 2025 Club World Cup article when an editor who likes British English (and who got in hot water with the administrators several years ago when he put up a big red banner "banning" American English on his talk page) reverted an edit with an absurd summary reading, in part, "crap grammar is coherent with American English." But it's well-established that such arguments are not valid. Regarding "greatest" versus "highest," American English doesn't make any distinction between the two, so there's really no reason to change the form that was already in use there.

To be clear, I'm not trying to suggest anyone is necessarily acting in bad faith when it comes to inserting those hyphens. I'm sure there are some people who would do so, of course, but my observation has been that Assadzadeh is a reliable and well-intentioned editor, even if we may disagree on this particular point, such that when I see that name appear on my watchlist I tend not to think, "Better check that one ASAP" (which I certainly do think with regard to some other editors' names I see regularly). 1995hoo (talk) 20:22, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. To be honest with you, I prefer the non-hyphenated versions as well, because that's what I'm used to seeing, but because FIFA used the hyphenated versions, I thought it would be best to revert to remain consistent. Now that I understand the reasoning, I will not revert further changes. Just to let you know, United 2026 FIFA World Cup bid has hyphenated versions as well. I wanted to research other FIFA-related articles first before deciding which methodology should be followed. I will now update the article.

Regarding "greatest" versus "highest," since you agree that there was no reason to change the form that was already in use, then it would be appreciated if you let them know as well, so that it doesn't seem like I'm the lone wolf. As I mentioned before, changing verbiage could have unforeseen consequences, as similar words may have different meanings in different versions of the English language (e.g. in British English, "pants" refers to what we call "underwear" in American English, whereas "trousers" refers to what we call "pants"). Assadzadeh (talk) 21:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I noticed that you removed hyphens on 2025 FIFA Club World Cup, but what about the Bracket? Assadzadeh (talk) 21:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I simply forgot that was a separate item instead of being part of the main article. I just dealt with it. 1995hoo (talk) 00:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also updated 2025 CONCACAF Gold Cup knockout stage (including its bracket) and 2025 CONCACAF Gold Cup. Any others you can think of? Assadzadeh (talk) 03:35, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]