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Question from the DaSeashel

Hey Abo Yemen. I saw your message on my talk feed, and while I understand the importance of sources in upkeeping this great resource, I want to point out the fact that while I lack sources handy on me right now, it is a fact of history that Imru' al-Qays al-Kindi was the nephew of Abu Layla, and that both were lovers of women and drink. I believe its important to list that on their pages, and I am sure you feel the same. If you have any sources please add them. I also wanted to ask, can I use a TV show as a source for this information? (Al-Zeer Salem). I completely understand if this is against wiki guidelines, just wanted to make sure, as in all honesty a TV source with 250 million views is probably just as reliable as a text from the 13th century on a tale that occurred in the 500's AD. Thanks in advance! God bless DaSeashell (talk) 11:47, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Also, my latest edit which was reverted is literally me grabbing information from the Arabic version for Imru' al-Qays, the wiki article for Kindah, (very relevant), and other sections of the same page and using that info to fix the geneology. Lmfao, the page itself says his father ate bitter fruits (Centaurea calcitrapa) but the geneology writes it as if it was his great grandfather, which doesn't align with the writings of Ibn Asakir in "History of Dimashq". Why has it been reverted? Sometimes, information can be fact checked by moderators instead of automatically deleted. Its literally information others wrote that I wrote again for ease of reading brother come on. Also, beautiful pfp about Filasteen. DaSeashell (talk) 11:54, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
@DaSeashell: Per our Wikipedia:Verifiability policy, you need to provide a source for every statement that you add to any article. Al-Zeer Salem is in no way a reliable source, and the amount of views that show received is irrelevant. So, sorry, but you'll need to go searching for sources for every statement you add here. FWIW, the we have nothing to do with the Arabic wiki. Different language versions of the same topic aren't supposed to be a translation of a common article, plus the Arabic wiki has a lower standard for Wikipedia:Reliable sources. You can cite Ibn Asakir's book if you wish, but newer scholarship is preferred (see, WP:AGE MATTERS) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. But as I mentioned, some changes I added were direct copies from the Kindah and Imru' al-Qays ENGLISH article, so why were they deleted? Sorry I am still new to all of this. DaSeashell (talk) 12:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
Either you forgot to copy the citations from those articles, or that text wasn't sourced in the first place (in that case, it should be also removed from the other articles too 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:09, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
Makes sense. When I have time later this week I will check to see any citations I forgot to copy. DaSeashell (talk) 04:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
@DaSeashell Good luck and happy editing! 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 06:24, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. God bless! DaSeashell (talk) 12:45, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
And, personally, a 250m view show and one of the most important media works in Levantine history is as factual than a random parchment dug up in 1998 written by an otherwise unknown Iraqi or Egyptian writer with Albanian or Persian descent who lived in the 13th century writing on a topic that passed eight hundred years before he was born.
That is to say, both are bs so we shouldn't don't pick and choose, we should either use both or neither. And if we were to go with neither, most of our information on pre-Islamic Arabia and by extension most of the Imru' al-Qays article would be deleted. Just food for thought, not trying to argue here my yamani brother just voicing my opinion. Btw, where are you from in Yemen? DaSeashell (talk) 12:09, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
In reply to the first paragraph, nothing mentioned in it counts as a reliable source. You need to use sources written by people with the appropriate academic background. You can access that stuff using Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, once you meet its requirements. As for the last part, my user page has all the info about me that I chose to disclose :) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:12, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Question from Hello wikiusers! (05:41, 10 August 2025)

Hello! I am making a Wikipedia page and it’s my first time, so it would be really great if you could help me out. Anyways, here is a cookie and milk for your troubles 🥛 🍪 --Hello wikiusers! (talk) 05:41, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

@Hello wikiusers! Welcome to Wikipedia! Help:Your first article should be a good guide to help you get started 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, I've been bold and closed the merge discussion and opened an RM, honestly idk whether that's appropriate but I hope that's okay Kowal2701 (talk) 22:10, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

Question from Ajatashatrukingofmagadha (13:23, 27 July 2025)

Hello! I would like to create a new Wikipedia page dedicated to only discussion and information about the list of wars and battles that have taken place in the Indian subcontinent from the Battle of Ten kings to shunga empire. Please help --Ajatashatrukingofmagadha (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello there is already a Military history of India article which covers that @Ajatashatrukingofmagadha: 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 21:58, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you Ajatashatrukingofmagadha (talk) 09:52, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

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Question from 96sumynona (00:10, 13 August 2025)

hi so im only here from a random tiktok from a guy named Declan Shinnick, who asked someone to make a Wikipedia page about him.. so like.. how do I do that? and how much information is needed to make a Wikipedia page about a person? --96sumynona (talk) 00:10, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello @96sumynona, welcome to Wikipedia! To create Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, you must ensure that the subject meets wikipedia's WP:General notability guidelines, which is, unfortunately, something that Shinnick doesn't meet. 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:09, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Re: Close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clanker

I believe that the closure of this discussion was a pile-on supervote and was not closed properly. While I might have been satisfied if the keep closure was done after reasonably considering the policy based arguments on either side, you did not even acknowledge the arguments of the people !voting Draftify or why WP:SUSTAINED was ignored here in your closing explanation. Please reopen it and allow an admin to close it or I will consider it a WP:BADNAC supervote and have to dispute it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:30, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm the consensus in that discussion was that the topic had sustained notability. Not a single person voted for the article's deletion, other than an IP, whose reasoning was "This is only a term used by a couple terminally online children". If you're up for challenging community consensus then feel free to dispute the closure 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:44, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Calling it a SNOW keep is simply false as there are multiple !votes for draftification that have yet to even be acknowledged by you. As I said previously, AfD is not a vote and the actual substance of the arguments has to be considered. There is zero evidence that was the case in your closure summary. I would like your opinion of why those draftify arguments were not considered or invalid. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:49, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
@Zxcvbnm only one (Pokelego999) out of the four editors called for draftification by citing policy (we aren't going to draftify an article because only one person voted for so). BD2412's opinion that it has yet to sustain coverage is clearly not shared by the editors of that AfD. Archrogue was more of giving advice for fixing the article than a reason for draftification. Wackistan's doesn't explain why "sourcing for mentions of studies is inadequate", and feels that the some paragraphs of the article are AI generated/written like an essay. No one shared their feelings 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 20:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
again, if you disagree, feel free to challenge the closure 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 20:01, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
I'd agree that the closing statement isn't particularly accurate, even though I'd also agree with the overall discussion outcome of keep. I don't think it's fair to call it a WP:SNOW situation when there's reasoned disagreement calling for draftification, and it doesn't really seem like a WP:HEY situation either given that the improvements made to the article during the discussion didn't really enter into the AfD discussion itself. The crux of the debate seems more to have been between assertions of WP:TOOSOON and WP:TOOSOONDEL, with keep !voters sometimes also asserting that they believe WP:GNG to be amply met and that this is an overriding concern. signed, Rosguill talk 19:44, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Sshatila (08:46, 18 August 2025)

hello, can you help me edit --Sshatila (talk) 08:46, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Sshatila, welcome to Wikipedia! Help:Introduction is a great resource to help you with getting started 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:51, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
is mine good how to fix Sshatila (talk) 08:55, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
what is yours? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:00, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
User:Sshatila/sandbox on dr ahmed shatila Sshatila (talk) 09:03, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
@Sshatila Ah. The article currently reads like a cv and wont make it to mainspace anytime soon. It needs to be rewritten in an encyclopedic tone, using reliable secondary sources. The article needs to follow the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy, and, most importantly, you'll need to prove that he passes the Wikipedia:General notability guidelines 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:12, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Question from Urban Synergy Mentoring (11:52, 19 August 2025)

Hi Abo - do you think we can go ahead with this page? I think it's ready? All feedback welcome.

Best wishes, Victoria --Urban Synergy Mentoring (talk) 11:52, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

@Urban Synergy Mentoring - Hello Victoria, I've sent you a message in your talk page to change your username since it is against Wikipedia's policies. As for the article, you'll need to prove that your organization meets Wikipedia's guidelines of Notability for organizations and companies. Once it meets that, you can press the blue "Submit for review" button on the banner on your draft so that it can be reviewed by a reviewer, although this might take some time. Hope that this helps. (note: I've moved your draft to Draft:Urban Synergy so that the submit button appears for you) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:02, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Question from Vic warrales (13:37, 19 August 2025)

I want to creat a page. For my music and acting career. --Vic warrales (talk) 13:37, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Vic warrales, you should check out Wikipedia:Autobiography (TL;DR: Writing about yourself is very much discouraged, and you have to be a really well known person and by then someone who's unrelated to you will have probably created an article about you) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:44, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Holdenba (20:53, 19 August 2025)

I would like to create my own Wiki page --Holdenba (talk) 20:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

see this comment of mine :) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:59, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Reliable source

I am providing a reliable source, whereas that part of the text is unsourced or 'supported' by randomly added sources (such as a neuroscience encyclopedia, a book on poetry, and one in Spanish about jurisprudence; all of which have nothing to do with the topic). And there are several mistakes. 78.210.108.151 (talk) 18:50, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello @78.210.108.151, I'm a bit confused on what you're talking about here 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:07, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵), I am referring to the reverts of my adjustments at Somaliland campaign because of a lack of a reliable source, but I am the one I adding a source on this Somali campaign. It's the current text (1905-1920 period) that actually lacks sources or has sources that have nothing to do with the topic. Can you undo the revert, i think you did it automatically. 78.210.108.151 (talk) 19:12, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Question from GovPrepare (22:01, 21 August 2025)

Good day,

Is it possible to upload a new topic onto Wikipedia? It will be a page about GovPrepare.com.

Thank you --GovPrepare (talk) 22:01, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Question from Sshatila (12:02, 20 August 2025)

is it better --Sshatila (talk) 12:02, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

@Sshatila definitely better, but still needs lots of work, especially on citations, basic Wikipedia:Manual of Style issues, and proving that he passes Wikipedia:Notability (people) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:06, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Also, are you Ahmed Shatila himself? Because if that's the case, you'll need to follow the Wikipedia:Autobiography guideline 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:08, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
NO I am not. He is a far relative Sshatila (talk) 05:26, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
so add more citations ? Sshatila (talk) 05:28, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
@Sshatila Yes, and you'll have to declare your Wikipedia:Conflict of interest 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:07, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
I did. what do you think about it now Sshatila (talk) 10:06, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

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As Salam Alaykum w rahmatullahi w barakah tu Abo Yemen, I wanted to ask you if you'd be willing to work with me on the Proto-Salafism article, which I have started. I would be very happy if you agree! Even if you don't agree, I understand thank you for your response. Viceskeeni2 (talk) 21:53, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

Wa alaikum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh @Viceskeeni2, thank you for the invite but I am afraid that I am going to have to decline it since I really dont edit stuff related to religious sects and stuff related to them. Sorry 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 04:30, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Okay thanks for the reeyponse. Viceskeeni2 (talk) 07:32, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

ANI edit

When you restored some content to ANI just now, you undid a number of edits that had been added to the page, including the closure of the HEB thread. Please undo your changes and restore the thread without overwriting others' edits. Schazjmd (talk) 18:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

@Schazjmd Either ANI's tweeking or I'm high. Anyways I tried fixing it :) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:32, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
It looks fixed now, thank you! Schazjmd (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

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I have nominated List of World Heritage Sites in Palestine to WP:FLC because it has been around FL level for a month or two. You are invited to review it, because FLs are often stuck at FLC for a month or two. Thanks. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 18:19, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Oh hey @Easternsahara! Thanks for the invite, but I've never done a FL review before. Ill try do see what I can do tho 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 06:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

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Ahmed al-Rahawi's death is now confirmed. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/prime-minister-yemens-houthi-government-killed-israeli-strike-2025-08-30/NesserWiki (talk) 19:34, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

@NesserWiki yep, saw it. Good riddance 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

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@Minorax File:Hadhrami League logo.png needs a bit of fixing 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Fixed --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 01:04, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

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@Robert McClenon Thank you! Lol.
Do I get something to proudly display on my user page on this occasion? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:43, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

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thank you 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 18:28, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Joseph A Soares (19:17, 5 September 2025)

hi, I just edited Wiki's page on universities and slavery by including a small section on Wake Forest. How do I include Wake Forest University in the index or table of contents or whatever you call the list on the left that shows the outline of the universities covered? Joseph --Joseph A Soares (talk) 19:17, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

@Joseph A Soares I see that you've made the text bold instead of using a section header. See the page that I've linked to to know how to fix the section that you've written 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:41, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, but now I can't find the section on Wake Forest that I added. Do you know how I can find it? Joseph A Soares (talk) 21:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Your edit seems to have been reverted by @Magnolia677 because you've added wrongly formatted citations and because Wikipedia is not written in the first person pov. Help:Referencing for beginners and Wikipedia:WikiVoice should be good guides for fixing the text you've added 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:17, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for helping me out, but my text wasn't written in the first person. I never use any first person pronouns. I'm writing about events in which I play a role but the prose are all neutral.
And on the citations, I inserted weblinks as Wiki instructed.
How can I fix this if I cannot find my original text? Joseph A Soares (talk) 14:01, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
I must have misunderstood it as being first person when I read "In 2019, sociology students in Professor Joseph Soares' social memory class uncovered". Anyway, Wikipedia does not report on things that occur in a classroom. Also, YouTube is generally not a reliable source. Also, not everything that has a source is encyclopedic, because Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Please see WP:NOT, WP:VNOT, and WP:EL. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:35, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Everything I wrote there, including the fact that it took research by a group of students to unearth Wake's roots in enslavement, is documented at Wake and can be seen via weblinks I posted. The YouTube version was created because it was easier for people to find, but is shows exactly what is archived at: https://wakespace.lib.wfu.edu/handle/10339/110786
Why isn't Wake's uncovering of its roots in enslavement and what is being done about that Wiki worthy when the same news on Georgetown and other universities is included on Wiki? Joseph A Soares (talk) 15:39, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
How can I fix this if I cannot find my original text?
@Joseph A Soares Your edits are archived in the article's history tab 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:03, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
I hope the other guy can see this, but this is the description on Wake's library archival page where the 7 commemorations of Wake's enslaved are provided in full, as videos. But this is the description given: description
As an outgrowth of the course taught by Dr. Joseph Soares, Sociology 391: Social Memories: Nazi Holocaust and US Civil War, his students focused the university's attention on an important part of Wake Forest University history previously ignored--namely, the selling of enslaved persons (as part of the Blount estate, link: https://wakespace.lib.wfu.edu/handle/10339/93888) on May 7th, 1860 to financially support Wake Forest. This video captures students from this course, supported by the Department of Sociology and School of Divinity, who commemorated this part of WFU history.
So stating the fact that it took my students for this to be unearthed is part of the story worth sharing via Wiki. If that's not legitimate, then I won't waste your or my time anymore on this. Joseph A Soares (talk) 16:27, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
The YouTube video of some guy talking needs sources to support the content. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:30, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
I apologize for thinking that the president of Wake Forest speaking at Founder's Day Convocation was enough to legitimize the content. Or that videos from Wake's library that display each of the seven commemorations of Wake's enslaved would be enough. What would you want me to post to support those facts? Another Wake Forest weblink that reports on those events? Do you look at something before you reject it? Joseph A Soares (talk) 17:37, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Please see WP:RS. --Magnolia677 (talk) 18:01, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

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AfC review request: Draft:Mamdouh Salem Baajajah

Hello Abo Yemen,

I’ve been working on a draft titled Draft:Mamdouh Salem Baajajah (discussion page: [[1]]).

I would greatly appreciate it if you could review the draft for Articles for Creation, and if it meets the notability and sourcing requirements and also tied to the [Saudi Arabia|WikiProject Saudi Arabia] initiative, help move it to the mainspace.

Thank you very much for your time and assistance!

Best regards, Maisa Khudair (talk) 06:23, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

المؤتمر الأول الحزب الاشتراكي اليمني. أكتوبر ١٩٧٨

My Arabic is poor, but I found the congress documents for the 1st YSP Congress: https://annas-archive.org/md5/76d2640e89a68c7f43754c8c6c5e80de (you need to download it: I wish I could send you an attachment, but the WP e-mail option does not allow it). In that database, you have the congress documents of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd congresses of the YSP.

IN either case, from page ۳۷۱ to ۳۷۷, one has the entire leadership lineup elected at the 1st YSP Congress. I can create the pages and infoboxes, but could you double-check the translations when the pages have been created? Its nice to establish these articles: then we get articles on the ruling institutions and who governed the party-state. --TheUzbek (talk) 09:47, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Ill take a look at it in a moment, I just got back from Jum'ah 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:58, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek Okay so,
Central Committee members:
  1. Abdul Fattah Ismail
  2. Ali Nasir Muhammad
  3. Muhammad Saleh Mutyia
  4. Ali Abdulrazzaq Ba Dheeb
  5. Anees Hassan Yahya
  6. Abdul Aziz Abdul Wali
  7. Ali Salem al-Beidh
  8. Saleh Muslih Qasem
  9. Muhammad Saeed Abdullah
  10. Ali Antar
  11. Salem Saleh Muhammad
  12. Ali Shay'i Hadi
  13. Saleh Munsir al-Sayilie
  14. Saleh Hassan Muhammad
  15. Abu Bakr Abdul Razzaq Ba Dheeb
  16. Mahmoud Abdullah Asheesh
  17. Aidah Ali Saeed (Female)
  18. Mahdi Abdullah Saeed
  19. Sultan Muhammad al-Dosh
  20. Abdullah al-Khamri
  21. Fadhl Muhsin
  22. Abdullah Bakeer
  23. Abdul Ghani Abdul Qader
  24. Salem Muhammad Jubran
  25. Naser Nassir Ali
  26. Ahmed Saeed Ba Khabeerah
  27. Hassan Ahmed al-Salami
  28. Rashid Muhammad Thabet
  29. Salim Omar Bakeer
  30. Haidar Abu Bakr al-Attas
  31. Abdul Aziz al-Dali
  32. Husein Muhammad Qamatah
  33. Ahmed Salem Obeid
  34. Mahmoud al-Najashi
  35. Ahmed Abdullah Abdul-ilah
  36. Ahmed Humeid Malhi
  37. Abdullah Muhammad Aziz
  38. Mahmoud Saeed Madhi
  39. Muhammad Ali Ahmed
  40. Ali Ahmed Muthna
  41. Sheikh Samih
  42. Saeed Askaree
  43. Saleh Abu Bakr bin Husaynun
  44. Ahmed Haidarah Saeed
  45. Saeed Salem al-Kheibah
  46. Mansour al-Sarari
  47. Najeeb Ibrahim
  48. Abdul Wakeel al-Saroori
  49. Ahmed al-Khidhr Za'bal
  50. Hadi Ahmed Nasir
  51. Saeed Saleh Salem
Nominated Central Committee members:
  1. Riyadh Omar al-'Akbari
  2. Qasim Abdullah al-Zouhi
  3. Ahmed Ali Saeed
  4. Mohammed Ali al-Qirhi
  5. Ilham Fadhl Mubjar (Female)
  6. Fat-hiyah Muhammad Abdullah (Female)
  7. Zki Barakat
  8. Abdulhamid Ahmed Saeed
  9. Awadh al-Hamzah Muhammad
  10. Salim Muhammad Abdul Wahid
  11. Abdullah Saleh Fadhl
  12. Suleiman Nasir Masoud
(That was a lot of typing) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:32, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so very much! :) Could you also translate the information on the Secretariat and the Auditing Committee? (you do not need to do it now).
I would suggest you to look up information on the PDRY on babel.hathitrust.org: it contains official CIA, State Department etc. analysis on the world. It takes time, and its not that easy to navigate through. However, you can find gold. For example, in this link #1 - Problems of communism v.35 1986. - Full View | HathiTrust Digital Library, if you search "Yemen" within you will find an analysis of the failed 1986 coup attempt (that was a real coup), how the Soviets reacted and the fact that Ali Nasir Muhammad was defended by communist Ethiopia. But again, its a hazzle to actually use it. It takes time to dig, but you will find gold there. TheUzbek (talk) 11:18, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.c044545566&seq=263&q1=Yemen this as well. --TheUzbek (talk) 11:18, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Btw here is an image of the first congress [2] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:21, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
and this image is proof that the red star flag was adopted by the National Front sometime before the establishment of the Yemeni Socialist Party [3] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:23, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
This image is from the fifth congress and it shows a triangular red star flag used by the NF on 1972 [4] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:26, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
I would try to find the charter of the NF; the logo is probably described there. But yes, weird that the article doesn't have a logo or anything in the infobox. TheUzbek (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Here: The National Charter: Approved at the First Conference of the National Front for the Liberation of Occupied South Yemen held between 22-25 June 1965 - Anna's Archive Same as the last one, you need to download it. But maybe you'll find a logo somewhere. TheUzbek (talk) 14:44, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
I actually remember seeing an image of the logo of the NF on a parade held in the 70s, Ill try to look for it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:57, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Flag of the navy [5] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:00, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek - found it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:39, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek Look at this find [6] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 18:29, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
[7] What do you know about the fourth congress of the YSP; was it held both in 1998 and 2000? What does the banner in the picture say? What was the date of (what I believe to be) the second convening of the 4th congress in 2000? TheUzbek (talk) 09:33, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek Do you want to write about the 4th congress of the YSP or the NF first? Anw I'm going to ask a YSP leader friend of mine about that congress, so send me all the question you want me to ask him. As for the banner, it says in Arabic: من اجل مصلحة وطنية وبناء دولة النظام والقانون والمؤسسات وتحقيق الديمقراطية والعدالة الاجتماعية, lit. 'For the sake of national interest, building a state of law, order, and institutions, and achieving democracy and social equity'. This is the slogan of the congress 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
also fwiw that image is under public domain per yemeni law as it is taken more than 20 years ago 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
But, isn't there a date there? It says 2000 and 30 above the slogan: I am guessing that is the date, right?
No need, but I think an article on "Congress of the Yemeni Socialist Party" (and that article should be created) should include the congresses of the NF. Same with the YSP general secretary page. It should include leaders of the predecessor parties (at least the NF). This has also been done at general secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea. Generally, and not very surprisingly, the YSP is missing many essential articles.
As for the YSP post-1990 is that of any interest? As a Yemenite, does the YSP have a following this day? I am no Middle East expert but it seems like all the secular movements that were big in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s have all either collapsed or become corrupt since they are unable (or unwilling) to transfer power (as Brezhnev's USSR). Their webpage at least leaves alot to be desired, and usually a bad webpage in this day and age is a sign. TheUzbek (talk) 15:03, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
oh, the date is "from 30 August - 1 September 2000"
I'd be more than happy to help with this stuff, since it is what I'm currently working on
YSP post-1990 is a really long time period. The YSP participated in multiple elections and got some seats as a main opposition party alongsides al-Islah, but as of now they only have 8 seats. There is a really small pro-YSP demographic, mostly based in the main cities of Taiz, Aden, Sanaa, and Mukalla. Idk much about the corruption inside the party though 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
I don't know either about "corruption", but the fact is that the Arab secularist failed and the Arab public went on to support Islamists in their place. But I am only guessing. Are you a YSP supporter? TheUzbek (talk) 16:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Technically, yes, although I dont support whatever they're doing atm (they're pretty much doing nothing other than wait for the war to end) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Interesting! :) What is the YSP's ideology today? Social democracy/democratic socialism, or is it still Marxism?
Ah, I see.. But do they have a choice? Who would support arming them? If they were a bigger player, maybe the Russians or the Chinese could, but who else? I've noticed over the years that they certainly have a pro-China bent as this statement shows: "Mohammed Almekhlafi, deputy general secretary of the Yemeni Socialist Party, said people's democracy in China ensures that every citizen fully enjoys political, economic, social and cultural rights."
Interesting, I am not finished looking at the Collective Move, but will focus on establishing and expanding basic pages for South Yemeni politics: party leader, congresses, central committee, etc. I am also trying to scrape together a list of assistant general secretaries, so if you have an overview of some of them, please give me a heads up. TheUzbek (talk) 18:18, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
What is the YSP's ideology today?
According to the YSP leader guy ik, he told me that the party's main ideology is diacritic socialism (or something like that, I'll need to ask him again) with the method of achieving socialism thru socialist democracy. I dont think that the party is united under a single ideology, it seems like it is as factioned as the NF was in the late 60s.
I appreciate the help comerade, and ill be sure to share everything I have 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 18:55, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Indeed, reading the history of the YSP and the PDRY is rather depressing. They might not have succeeded anyhow, but they really made it more difficult for themselves. And the 1986 episode is rather insane. Anyhow, thanks for the information. I am more or less finished with the Secretary-General of the Yemeni Socialist Party for now. The sources for the remaining guys, I think, will be easy to find. The only thing I can't Google my way to is the exact date for when Ali Saleh Obad was elected general secretary in 1994. It's probably in an Arabic book I cannot read. Anyhow, the work continues! TheUzbek (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
yeah the events of '86 were very much the end of the progressive Yemen dream. Ill try to look for the date of when Obad was elected 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
I sent you an e-mail from the Keesing's Record of World Events, which is a news archive, on the Corrective Move. I am using it to collect information on the composition of the state, government, and party organs of South Yemen. TheUzbek (talk) 11:46, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek I've replied 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:09, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
That is a very great find! :) I see it has a list of all the CC members who were removed. Great source :)
Do you have any materials on the unification congress of the NF and the creation of the UPONF in 1975? TheUzbek (talk) 20:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek Sorry for the late reply, but I think I read something about this on brehony's book. I am a bit busy these days so no more digging thru history books for a while :( 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
I saw that you were starting medical school; good luck with that! :)
If you ever have spare time in the future, please search the internet to find out when Abdulaziz Abdulghani was born. I believe he remains active in the YSP today as a Central Committee department head, but I couldn't find any information on his birth date, place of birth, or whether he was a northerner or southerner. TheUzbek (talk) 06:33, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek Thank you!
Also, do you mean this Abdul Aziz Abdul Ghani? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:17, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
I meant this guy: User:TheUzbek/sandbox4#YSP_Politburo, which I think is this guy: [8] :). TheUzbek (talk) 09:24, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek I think that you got the name wrong, his name in arabic is Abdulghani Abdulqader. Ill go look for stuff about him 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek I found this Russian documentary of the PDRY published in 1979, and in it is a scene from the 1st congress of the YSP [9]. I've identified the place of the congress to be Aden’s Hurricane Cinema [10] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:08, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
Lovely! :)
There is enough information out there on the 1st Congress of the YSP to create an article. So those images will come in handy :) TheUzbek (talk) 15:32, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek 3rd YSP congress postage stamps
 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:36, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
These were in the public domain, right? TheUzbek (talk) 06:39, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
yes they should be 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:44, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek I found the logo of the National Liberation Front pre-independence [11] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:02, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
You should reach out to user Sshu94 at Wikimedia Commons. He can make a png of the logo. He fixed the logo of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia and, as I can see, has also fixed logoes for the North Korean party-state and the Laotian party. TheUzbek (talk) 06:44, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
pinging them here @Sshu94 for now. If they're not interested ill put this up on the graphics lab of commons 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:45, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

Question from TBRUY (20:49, 8 September 2025)

Hi! thanks already for your help. I wrote an article in the sand box that i asked for publishment. hope this was the correct way to do. However, i'm not sure how to add pictures on this article. do you know how i can add these? --TBRUY (talk) 20:49, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello @TBRUY, if you want to add an image to wikipedia, you'll have to upload it on Wikimedia Commons first. You have to be the person who took the image that you're uploading, or you have to make sure that the image that you're uploading has no copyright 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:47, 9 September 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Algirr (19:13, 8 September 2025)

Hello. What should I do if "another user" violated the three-rollback rule after my edits in the article? --Algirr (talk) 19:13, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

@Algirr you take them to WP:3RRN 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:45, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Okay, I will try Algirr (talk) 15:54, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
There is a lot that needs to be included that I did not do, for example warning a person about his violation (because he himself knows that he is breaking the rules) Algirr (talk) 17:59, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
I also did not discuss his reverts with this person because he had never discussed it with me in previous cases, simply deleting the content, leading to my blocking and not incurring any punishment, although as it is written in the template, "If all you've done is reverted-without-talk, you may find yourself facing a block too" Algirr (talk) 18:02, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
@Algirr where is the dispute exactly? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:18, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
well, image in the article. He deleted image and I opposed this Algirr (talk) 20:23, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
@Abo Yemen btw, the same user did it again, but now in Saddam Hussein sidebar, deleting some links to articles that connected to Saddam Algirr (talk) 00:28, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
I also don't really understand what to do. The complaint page asks for a lot of things that he never did when he filed a complaint against me for a similar reason. Knowing my position as a permanent scapegoat, I don't know how to proceed, can you help me please? Algirr (talk) 00:40, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Good evening

How are you? 71.223.80.238 (talk) 07:53, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm good, how are you? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:57, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Qatar edits

Hallo, i reverted the content you deleted, you can not go around deleting properly sourced stuff you do not agree with or don't like. Fidjeri (talk) 06:14, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

I've given my reason to remove that biased section in the edit summary. I highly advise you to stop using WP:ILIKEIT as a reason to revert 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:56, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia has notable controversies in many articles. I highly advise you to stop using WP:IDONTLIKEIT as a reason for deleting sourced inforamtion Fidjeri (talk) 14:24, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid argument. You've also ignored the fact that I gave a proper policy when deleting that section. You should also check out WP:CRITSECTION 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:43, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
I have added ARABIC sources to the section, showing it is not biased, but a common claim, very well sourced, meaning there is no real reason to delete it. Fidjeri (talk) 14:56, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

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Just got notified about this via email. I was planning on doing the quote things tomorrow since it's a day off for me lol. Thanks @Grnrchst for the review! Really appreciate it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:56, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
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Should i say: "عادت حليمة لعادتها القديمة"? what is this. ARABCREATOR7 (talk) 04:50, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

This is your poorly sourced, newly created articles being moved to the draft space, where you can fix them and then have them submitted for review. Pretty normal stuff 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 04:58, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Should i say now: "كلمة حق أُريدَ بها باطل"? you could've helped! ARABCREATOR7 (talk) 05:27, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Should I say “صح لسانك”?? You could be working on your draft instead of complaining. Also, the WP:BURDEN is on you to provide better sourcing. Id be happy to review your draft and accept it when the issues are resolved 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 05:41, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

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I happen to see your edits from time to time as I work on Wikipedia; your edits are always high quality! Your effort to improve coverage of socialism in Southern Arabia, a little-known topic, is much appreciated. 296cherry (talk) 02:52, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much @296cherry! Would you believe me if I told you that I was thinking that I should check if there is some sort of socialism-related barnstar this morning, and yet here you are rewarding me with one at the same time? This is one crazy coincidence. Thanks again! 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:20, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

Axis of Resistance infobox

Hello @Abo Yemen:, I understand that the reason you reverted by edit in the “See also” section in Flag of Syria was because I removed to Flag of Yemen, I deeply apologize to that error of mine, so I kept it now. Regarding int the infobox, in that case of an organization that (sadly and unfortunately) is still active, it is better to kept it updated only including the only current active participants, besides the article already has written about the now defuct members, seems it has no use to still place it on the infobox. CheAjlt (talk) 19:07, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I've reverted the see also stuff since none of the flags that you've added look similar to the flag of Syria, idrc about the link to the flag of Yemen article. As for the Axis of Resistance infobox, I think that Ba'athist Syria was a very notable member of the informal pact and should stay in there 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:11, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Well, it was nice to talk with someone who also deeply believes that Bashar al-Assad should be extradited and tried in court for his crimes against humanity. I may also go as far to say that Bashar al-Assad (just like Nicolae Ceaușescu) shall also deserve the sentence of death penalty, something that most of my friends and acquaintances also agrees with me. CheAjlt (talk) 19:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Nice to talk with you too! 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 02:24, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

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Vertical flag in the coat of arms of Palestine

When the flag of Palestine is turned vertically, the topmost color of the flag - in this case black - should be placed on the left, not the right (when viewed from the front). However, in the coat of arms of Palestine, the flag is presented against this guideline, unlike e.g. the flag of Egypt in the coat of arms of Egypt.
--2001:999:60D:3E66:EDDD:E05A:CDF5:9A2E (talk) 14:07, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Pinging @Dylam X since they changed the coa 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:29, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
The flag of Palestine also has a red triangle from the left, so when we transform the flag to become vertical, we place the tip of the triangle vertically downwards from the top, so the black colour is placed on the right, and the green colour is on the left. If the Black has to be on the left and the green on the right, that will mean that the red triangle will be at the bottom of the shield, and the tip of the triangle would be facing upwards, which is against the official description of the flag.
The red triangle has to be at the top of the shield, facing vertically downwards, which must mean that the black is on the right and the green is on the left. Dylam X (talk) 14:46, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Excuse me, but You are wrong. Please, look at the
--2001:999:60D:3E66:EDDD:E05A:CDF5:9A2E (talk) 18:57, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
You keep forgetting that the flag has a Red Triangle from the left, so when the flag is made vertical, that red triangle becomes at the top of the flag and it's facing downwards. This would mean that the black is on the right and the green is on the left, because when the flag is horizontal, the triangle is on the left and facing the right, the black is at the top and the green is at the bottom.
Countries like Jordan, Sudan, Kuwait, The UAE, and Oman have the same layout when the flag when displayed vertically. Dylam X (talk) 19:51, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
I must admit, that You are right. However, the explanation has not to do with the triangle, look at the flag of Czechia and its vertical version. The real explanation is:
In contrast to European practice, the black (top) stripe is to the "sinister" (observer's right). This is because in the Arab culture reading from right to left: Flags Of The World, Palestine, vertical version
Sincerely, --2001:999:60D:3E66:EDDD:E05A:CDF5:9A2E (talk) 21:56, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

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Thank you so much @Chicdat! That article wouldn't have made it to GA this quickly if it weren't for your comment on ANI, where you said something along the lines of me going to have a few GAs under my belt by the end of this year. I felt so motivated by that comment, and I didn't want to disappoint you lol. I really appreciate this barnstar and your comment 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:30, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! I remember that ANI with the weird aspersions cast against you. No one can read that article and claim you have a political bias – all the facts are presented neutrally. As an aside with that article, I see there are a lot of redlinks: have you checked on the Arabic Wikipedia or another language to see if there are corresponding articles there? You could replace the redlinks with interlanguage links to those articles, which allows readers to view something about those things. Just a suggestion, obviously doesn't count if there aren't any articles. Anyway, thanks for your reply, and hope you keep writing! 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 21:15, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
@Chicdat Sadly there are no arabic versions of those articles. Coverage of articles related to Modern Yemeni history on both the english and arabic wikipedias is really bad. There’s a whole mini civil war that happened in South Yemen in 1968 but there is no article about it. A short-lived separatist “People’s Democratic Republic of Hadhramaut” was a thing because back when South Yemen was ruled by the right wing faction of the NF, the left wing who were based in Hadhramaut didn’t like the policies of the right, but again, we dont have an article about it. The People’s Defense Forces of South Yemen doesn’t have an article. And the list goes on. Ill try my best to continue my work here :) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 02:13, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
See, that's why we're lucky we have editors from underrepresented countries. Every GA is a piece of knowledge made infinitely more accessible, whether it's a critical event in the history of Yemen or a random hurricane in 2021. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:27, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

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Discussion regarding Southern Giants Brigades article

Hello Abo Yemen,

I noticed that you reverted my recent edit to the Southern Giants Brigades page using RedWarn. I completely understand your caution toward new editors. However, my edit aimed to correct factual inaccuracies in the “History” section. The previous version described the northern Giants Forces, which were a different formation. The Southern Giants Brigades article now includes reliable English and Arabic references confirming its distinction and Southern identity, including ACLED, Sky News Arabia, Al-Omana Net, the group’s official website, and even the Arabic Wikipedia article about the northern formation (linked here for clarity: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/قوات_العمالقة_(اليمن)).

My goal was to improve accuracy. I’d be very happy to collaborate on wording or sourcing to ensure everything meets Wikipedia’s neutrality standards.

Thank you.

— Dontmesswithhistory (talk) 11:41, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

There’s no such thing as the “northern giants brigades” 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:17, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment. The section we corrected referred to the older Giants Brigades (قوات العمالقة) that originated within the former North Yemeni military in the 1970s, commanded by Abdullah Alhamdi. This formation is described here: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/قوات_العمالقة_(اليمن)
It is not related to the modern ألوية العمالقة الجنوبية (Southern Giants Brigades), which were established decades later and identify primarily as southern under the Joint Forces Command. The edit simply aimed to prevent confusion between these two distinct entities and to ensure accuracy based on reliable sources.
Best regards,
Dontmesswithhistory (talk) 12:38, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
@Dontmesswithhistory I think that the confusion here is that the arabic article wronly links to the southern giants brigades article in english. I have fixed it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:10, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

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Where did your user page go?

I remember you having a user page. Where did it go? KashanAbbas (talk) 09:18, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi KashanAbbas, Abo Yemen has requested to delete their user page. IDK why though ~Rafael (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 03:37, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
From what I can tell (from his previous user page and current talk page), the guy is studying in collage and has a lot of tress on him as of current. He also isn't too keen on stuff which happened in Gaza (e.g stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff). KashanAbbas (talk) 03:45, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
I g7'd it. It was too revealing, and I kinda got bored with it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:04, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
I liked it, and I always wanted to ask you how you could be sympathetic to South Yemen and negative towards Kemalism. Many things I, as a Westerner, do not understand :) In either case, its good that you have not entirely disappeared :) We need you here! There is a lot of work to do, and despite our focus being different, our larger aim seems to be almost identical. TheUzbek (talk) 09:59, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek Thanks! I'm still here, and I'm still editing the same topics that I worked on. Also, don't worry, I'm very addicted to this website for me to simply place a {{retired}} template and leave lol. If I just randomly disappear one day, just know it wasn't my own decision to do so 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:19, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
That is lovely to hear! :)
Question: Do you have access to the Yemeni Socialist Party's rulebook? I am currently implementing the finishing touches on a draft journal article on political development, reproduction, decay and displacement in communist states. The reason I ask is that the YSP, I believe (we will see if my modelling agrees), represents a case in which the internal organisational structure of both the state and the party never even reached the level of institutional reproduction. From what I gathered, Ali Salem al-Beidh signed an agreement on unification with North Yemen without the YSP Politburo's approval (and they just accepted it). TheUzbek (talk) 06:12, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek AFAIK the rule book of the YSP is known as the "Internal System of the YSP" and it was written during the Fifth General Conference of the party. You can find it on https://althawry.net/?page_id=4741
I've also asked a member of the YSP that I know if there is any document other than this one that I am not aware of its existance just to be sure and I am waiting for his responce 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:48, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
@TheUzbek I’ve emailed you the documents the YSP guy sent me. They’re all in Arabic lol, but are in a text format so it’ll be much more easier to machine translate. If you feel that a part of the machine translation is wrong or incomprehensible, Ill be more than happy to translate that part for you. Good luck with your research, the YSP guy wants to read your article too lol. Best, 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:02, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

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