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⟨ʁ⟩ is ambiguous as to whether it's fricative or approximant, so ⟨ʁ⟩ already encompasses [ɐ̯], much the same way as ⟨j⟩ and ⟨i̯⟩, and ⟨ɹ⟩ and ⟨ɚ̯⟩, are synonymous. Nardog (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's also used like that because it shows the potential difference between [aʁ] and [aːɐ̯] which some (not all) speakers make. Using ⟨aɐ̯⟩ for the one with the underlying short vowel is just wrong, it's not a diphthong. In Standard German, those are often homophonous as [aː~ɑː] (which may or may not yield a merger with /aː/), yet in Low German-influenced German they're [æː] and [ɑː], two very distinct monophthongs (I think the latter is fully merged with /aː/, which is open back). For others, they're [aʁ] and [aː~ɑː], or fluctuating between that and [aː~ɑː] for both. It's really complicated and not at all straightforward as in Danish or English. If the /r/ is there, it's there as an approximant, or regionally as a fricative which can be devoiced before fortes (as in Luxembourgish).
I agree that the most common pronunciation is [bɛɐ̯ˈliːn], that's the only one I've ever heard in contemporary German (discounting obvious regional accents, you can hear [bɛɾˈliːn] in Switzerland and [bæʁˈliːn] in Luxembourg). I must admit that I can't hear the r-reflex very well sometimes, to me it at least sometimes sounds like [bɛˈliːn] (which is not a transcription I'd use in an encyclopedia, of course). Sol505000 (talk) 11:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What source is this based on? I had a look at the dataset and the number is correct, but it's based on a fairly low threshhold (0.1mm). There are 137 days with > 0.3mm and 64 with > 2.5mm. The German wikipedia gives a lower number, but with no indication of the threshhold used. Best, Cfrhansen (talk) 23:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In good faith, Celco85 exchanged a picture for another one that was "enhanced". However, when I compare the two pictures, I can see that yes, the second ("enhanced") picture is less skewed than the first one, but the quality of the first picture is so much better!
Here are both pictures:
The resolution of the original image is higher than that of the edited image. So I will put the original image back in. Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 07:15, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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