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Albanian q

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So it appears that Albanian “q” is pronounced /c/ in the endonym. Of Albania [ʃcip]. Except that phoneme does not appear in the phonology. Rather in the name shqip is pronounced [ʃc͡çip]in Albanian. Macy Sinrich (talk) 17:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In this guide (and presumably our transcriptions), we use ⟨c⟩, at Albanian language, we use ⟨c͡ç⟩ and at Albanian alphabet we use ⟨c⟩ and ⟨⟩. I'm fine with whatever as long as we're consistent. — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 23:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I prefer consistency not just within ourselves but also with what literature says. Nardog (talk) 00:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Albanian r, rr, q, gj

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If you talk or listen to any native speaker, single ⟨r⟩ in Albanian is always an alveolar approximant [ɹ], and double ⟨rr⟩ can be either a tap or trill. Look up any Albanian news program on YouTube - the [ɹ] is impossible to miss.

I have yet to see a single person pronounce ⟨r⟩ as a tap. Likewise with ⟨q⟩ and ⟨gj⟩, the [c] and [ɟ] of Wikipedia are never heard, it's always [ʨ] and [ʥ].

I don't have an appropriate academic source to cite for an edit, but Wikipedia's description of Albanian phonetics is simply wrong. I suspect it's an accurate description of some earlier stage of standard Albanian, and the original Wikipedia editor based their work on out of date materials. Aftismos (talk) 03:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]