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Subject: Request for reconsideration of Abstract Division's Wikipedia entry
I would like to respectfully request reconsideration of the decision regarding Abstract Division's Wikipedia entry. I believe their inclusion in the encyclopedia is justified, based on the following points, and I would appreciate a review in light of similar artists' entries.
Comparable Artist - Oscar Mulero:
Please review the page for Oscar Mulero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Mulero), another artist of similar caliber. Despite a relatively limited number of third-party sources, such as a citation primarily from his personal website, he has been granted a Wikipedia article.
Abstract Division, on the other hand, has had more significant and third-party independent coverage, including official work such as contributing a soundtrack to the Netflix series Sense8.
Moreover, the fact that Abstract Division has been featured in reputable sources like VPRO — a Dutch public broadcaster that is a part of the public broadcasting system—further substantiates their notability. VPRO's coverage, particularly in two articles dedicated to them, should be seen as credible and substantial. Incorrectly, I marked them as interviews, but these are actually independent news articles. This I have corrected now.
VPRO as a Credible Source:
VPRO, as a public broadcaster, provides content with editorial standards that exceed those of some commercial outlets. As such, their coverage of Abstract Division should be given significant weight. It is not just a passing mention but an article that provides meaningful discussion about the artists and their work. This coverage holds more value and authority than some other sources such as Mixmag, which, though respected in the dance music industry, may not always reflect the full depth of an artist's career, especially in non-English media contexts, given that Mixmag is a London-based publisher.
Dutch Media Coverage:
Given that Abstract Division is a Dutch-origin duo, it is reasonable to expect that they would receive more media coverage in Dutch-language outlets, such as VPRO, rather than international publications like Mixmag. Artists (in my example, Sandwell Districts - Function & Regis) often gain more recognition in their home countries, where the media has a greater interest in local talent.
Function (musician) Comparison:
In comparison to Function (musician) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_(musician)), who does not have a personal website linked for his label and whose PR agency’s website is currently inaccessible, Abstract Division’s presence in multiple reliable secondary sources such as VPRO and Netflix’s Sense8 soundtrack clearly demonstrates a higher level of notability and coverage in independent media.
I hope this comparison clarifies that Abstract Division has garnered substantial recognition from sources that should be considered authoritative and independent of the artists themselves. Given these points, I respectfully request that the article's deletion be reconsidered or that additional sources be weighed more fairly in the decision-making process.
At last, I have also contacted #wikipedia-en-help for additional advice on how to improve this article that I have followed up.
Moreover, I have contacted after the first rejection the "Articles for creation help desk", and I was told that interviews are okay as long as they are used as references, and not as External Links. Nevertheless, even if I delete all the interviews, there numerous articles that have been written about this duo in the past years, and again, a lot more independent articles than other Wikipedia pages.
Hereby one more time the independent articles enumerated:
  1. Verweij, Mick (5 June 2015). "Abstract Division komt met een ode aan Detroit-techno, twee nieuwe labels én een eigen avond in Het Transportbedrijf" [Abstract Division comes with an ode to Detroit techno, two new labels, and a New Night at Transportbedrijf]. Vice Magazine
2. Cameron, John (15 November 2021). "Abstract Division Deliver Sublime Hypnotic Techno". Selector News. Retrieved 18 February 2025
3. de Vrieze, Atze (27 september 2022). Article about Abstract Division at 3voor12 of VPRO
4. de Vrieze, Atze (26 oktober 2021). Article about Abstract Division at 3voor12 of VPRO
5. THUMP Editorial Team (25 November 2015). "Crate Expectations: Abstract Division". Vice. Retrieved 18 February 2025.
6. Kolada, Brian. "Review of Abstract Division - Form & Function Part 3". Resident Advisor.
7. Kolada, Brian. "Review of Abstract Division - Time And Perception Pt. 1". Resident Advisor.
Again, if for other artists, less of these were enough in the past to get their own Wikipedia page... Please explain also why was that.

Lastly, I have removed all interviews from the current Draft Page. VMCS83 (talk) 22:58, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]