Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hello! Project Kids

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Hello! Project w/o prejudice to some selective merging from the page history. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:50, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Project Kids

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Discussed on Talk:Hello! Project#Merger proposal: group was created as a project/pre-debut group where individuals appeared as back-up dancers or in television/film roles (but not credited as a group). No music releases as a group aside from being featured artists in one collaboration single and eventually debuted in Berryz Kobo and Cute (Japanese idol group). Information would be more appropriate on individual articles or as pre-debut information in Berryz Kobo and Cute especially since they did not release anything or were notable under the Hello! Project Kids name. lullabying (talk) 20:40, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:59, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @Lullabying: what policy based rationale are you using to justify deletion? I can't read Japanese, but if they pass WP:SIGCOV, it's likely they pass WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG. In your other nomination at another article you admitted that there were enough articles in Japanese to pass WP:SIGCOV. If that is the case here as well, I suggest you withdraw your nomination. If a group has a charting single, chances are they are going to have enough coverage to pass WP:GNG. However, if they were not the main subject of the cited sources you can argue that they don't meet WP:SIGCOV and that would justify deletion. You really needed to give policy reasoning, especially since most commenters can read Japanese and we are relying on your evaluation of the sources in good faith. 4meter4 (talk) 18:41, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @4meter4: No charting singles were released under their name, hence failing WP:NMUSIC. This was a project group, but any charting singles/significant works were released under individual names or as other groups. lullabying (talk) 18:53, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: That's a good rationale for an argument against meeting WP:NMUSIC, but it doesn't necessarily mean they fail WP:GNG if they meet WP:SIGCOV. Was the project itself the subject of three or more independent sources (i.e. non-trivial coverage)?4meter4 (talk) 19:32, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- - @4meter4: All sources listed on the page are primary with the exception of Zakzak. lullabying (talk) 20:03, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect and selective merge to Hello! Project. Given that I don't speak Japanese and User:Lullabying does, I am assuming in good faith that there are not enough sources to pass WP:SIGCOV per Lullabying's comments. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. A selective merge of some basic information could be moved to the parent article at Hello! Project. 4meter4 (talk) 21:18, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe (talk) 14:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.