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April 16

Category:Management Science (journal) people

Nominator's rationale: Textbook case of WP:SMALLCAT Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:40, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NAIA Men's Basketball Tournaments

Category:Palestinian neighborhoods in East Jerusalem

Nominator's rationale: Recently (15 April) created duplicate of the long standing Category:Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem Icewhiz (talk) 15:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle The editor who created this category added at to more articles, but most of them were removed. Debresser (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as duplicate category pernominator. I understand that "Palestinian" is not the same as "Arab", but in the context of these categories they are identical. In addition, calling them Palestinian might give rise to confusion with the political entity "Palestine". Debresser (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Film memes

Nominator's rationale: "Films that are internet memes" is an impossibly vague definition for a category. How can an entire film be an "internet meme"? None of the entries in the category have sources that justify inclusion in this category. Seems to be an excuse to pull together popular movies in a completely arbitrary and personal way. Railfan23 (talk) 13:42, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Books by setting

Nominator's rationale: I am at a loss to understand why this category was created. The only content is the lone subcat, Category:Novels by setting, which is the only possible kind of book that has a "setting". No need to merge as the subcat already has all necessary parents. Anomalous+0 (talk) 11:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bosnian dynasties

Nominator's rationale: merge, overlapping scope, this dynasties category contains noble families just like the noble families category does. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am OK with whatever decisions you reach here. Like all other English wikipedia instances of this small country history, Cat's too are often messy and disorganized, so following points could influence how you are going to think about the issue: category "Bosnian noble families" refer to dynasties of medieval Bosnia, which exclusively covers articles on subjects associated to particular era and particular culture. It doesn't include any other period in country's history - Bosnian nobility of the Ottoman period, period of Austria-Hungary, 20th century period families without noble pedigree, etc. Cat above this one, "Bosnian nobility", is still too specific and it includes only "noble" pedigree families. There are few separate categories at "Bosnian noble families" level, such as "Ottoman nobility" and "Medieval Bosnian nobility", both from different era and culture, and these are subcat's of "Bosnian nobility" and "Bosnia and Herzegovina nobility". It's a mess, so the idea was to sort things out and turn "Bosnian dynasties" into very top Cat in the hierarchy of Bosnian families regardless of era and/or culture - this should cover different periods, culture, and different political systems context; pedigree based on inherited "noble" status, or economic and political position, or acquired by mean of wealth; prominent family lines stretching into present times, with or without "noble" pedigree, and so on.---౪ Santa ౪99° 18:59, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As the top level we have Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina families and with the current content of that category I cannot envisage how Category:Bosnian dynasties would fit in between. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I should refer you to article Dynasty - Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina families is the top Cat for family in general, but in context of multi-generational exert of power and influence dynasty is the best description and could stand as top category for that context. I checked families included into category "Bosnia and Herzegovina families" and at least three of four families are dynastic and still around (not extinct). I understand that entire string is a bit messy and disorganized, like almost all other dealing with country's history articles (I know now that you nominated "medieval state institution" as well), but it seemed to me as a good idea to differentiate medieval, contemporary, multi-generational, noble, genteel, surviving, extinct, and so on, from one another.--౪ Santa ౪99° 18:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Years

Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with the format of most other siblings in Category:Categories by year. Note: if this proposal goes ahead we should also rename some of the subcategories of the above, but I suppose those can be speedied per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Albums recorded at Parr Street Studios

Nominator's rationale: The studio is not typically a defining aspect of an album since in most cases it's not going to make a difference where an album was recorded, especially if the studio is itself has not achieved its own notability such as Abbey Road Studios. There is no article for Parr Street Studios. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 04:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Boat racing people by Canadian province or territory

Nominator's rationale: Only used as a holder for one category, that category being listed below. See explanation there for proposal. Grutness...wha? 03:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Boat racing people from Ontario

Nominator's rationale: Currently only contains a handful of articles, which are a peculiar mishmash of sport sailors and canoeists. No other country, territory, state, province, city, or town has a "Boat racing people" category. The current oddity should be deleted, with no prejudice against creating Category:Canoeists from Ontario and Category:Sailors (sport) from Ontario and the equivalent "by province" categories, which would very likely be populable. See also above nomination. Grutness...wha? 03:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Apple original programming

Nominator's rationale: This category was created before the name of the service was known. Now that the service has been announced the category should reflect the common name for the service, which is Apple TV+. See a similar structure at Disney+ and Category:Disney+.  - PaulT+/C 02:11, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Queensland Business Leaders Hall of Fame inductees

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:DEFINING)
The Queensland Business Leaders Hall of Fame is a joint effort of the State Library of Queensland and Queensland University of Technology started in 2009. The focus is on an annual dinner and web site rather than a physical museum so far. The biography articles generally mention it in passing so it doesn't seem defining. The award is also issued to companies and they don't tend to be small corner stores; Qantas Airlines, Domino's Pizza Enterprises and The Courier-Mail are not even remotely definined by this award. The contents of the category are already listified here within the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:10, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
The Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame shares space with the Northwest Louisiana History Museum in Natchitoches, Lousiana. Most of the articles I looked at don't even mention the award while a significant minority mention it in passing. Overall this award doesn't seem defining. The contents of the category are already listified here within the main article- -