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Template:Infobox D&D creature

Propose merging Template:Infobox D&D creature with Template:Infobox fictional race.
D&D creatures are not specific characters, but a race or species which {{Infobox fictional race}} is setup to handle. |collapsible= and |state= should not be added as the infobox information shouldn't be hidden and shouldn't be long that it needs hiding. |mythical= and |based= are both used for the same thing - and |based_on= is already available in {{Infobox fictional race}}. |wizards_image_URL= should not be included in the infobox and instead should be available in an External links section. |source= should also not be included and should only include the first/last appearance as is done with {{Infobox fictional race}} and |infobox character= - listing every appearance of something can turn into a giant list. If a complete list is needed, it should be done in the article body. Gonnym (talk) 13:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Template:Infobox video game also allows for collapsing. There, as here, it is implemented here (good or bad) because many of these races end up on list pages and have infoboxes in each section. Without collapsing, these infoboxes take up much more space than they should. (I don't think I personally support that use case, but it does exist.) --Izno (talk) 13:33, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indianapolis Colts draft navigational boxes

Unused templates. Only incoming links are from each other... Additionally, violate WP:ACCESS. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:45, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Inclined to delete per nom and WP:NOTALMANAC, and unused. Ping to Trut-h-urts man and Yankees10 who created these templates and might be able to shed light on how they are used. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:10, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seems at least most of these are unused. The templates themself are a problematic though. The years link to other templates, not articles, and the color scheme makes it hard to actually see what is a link and what is a red link. I'm also inclined to delete. --Gonnym (talk) 22:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose All of the navboxes should be linked to the pages of the drafted players so I find the claim that they are only linked to each other highly dubious take how the 1998 navbox links to Peyton Manning.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 17:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I just went and clicked through on one of them (Template:Colts2008DraftPicks). It is fully linked on all 9 player pages, so to say that all of these navboxes are unused is false. If there are ones that have not been fully deployed on player pages, that is a fixable issue. I have been going through and trying to make sure they are all used, but that will take a while because of the sheer number of boxes that have been sent to TfD here. As far as this entire class of navboxes as a concept, a broader discussion would have to take place at WT:NFL before we should be taking any action there. Ejgreen77 (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
All of these templates are now fully used. Additionally, any WP:ACCESS concerns that may exist here actually involve a different template, not this one. Ejgreen77 (talk) 16:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all Fails WP:NAVBOX item 4: There should be a Wikipedia article on the subject of the template.. For example, {{Colts2018DraftPicks}} has no dedicated article, but is a subset of the content at 2018 NFL Draft and 2018 Indianapolis Colts season. Also fails WP:NAVBOX item 5: If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles. A better argument could be made for something more distinguishing like List of Indianapolis Colts first-round draft picks. This is WP:NAVBOXCREEP.—Bagumba (talk) 20:12, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See, I have the exact opposite opinion. I really don't see anything special or particularly distinguishing about being a first-round draft pick (as opposed to being drafted in any other round), and I'm not sure why we ever started generating navboxes based upon that particular distinction in the first place. These navboxes show all of the players who were drafted in the same draft class by the Colts in any given year, which, to me, is a much more useful grouping. I would argue that 2018 Indianapolis Colts season is the article that would satisfy WP:NAVBOX #4. As for WP:NAVBOX #5, I would argue that Template:ColtsFirstPick fails that one much more so than Template:Colts2018DraftPicks does. Ejgreen77 (talk) 20:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
re: NAVBOX #4, the fact that we need to "argue" about whether it is met by an article named different than the navbox is my usually tip-off of NAVBOXCREEP. I expect it to be obvious, otherwise someone is just churning out cross sections.—Bagumba (talk) 02:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
re: the first round picks, my point is that it more obviously meets NAVBOX #4. I wasn't necessarily saying I would keep that either (and that would be for another TfD anyways).—Bagumba (talk) 02:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 13:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all, navboxes in active or potential use, editorial decision for editors of the relevant articles whether these should be used or not. —Kusma (t·c) 14:45, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UKBot

The English Wikipedia does not run this kind of bot-scored competition, so they are all unused with little possibility of use. See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 19#UKBot {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 17:10, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: As the creator, I need to maintain an English version of the templates anyways since I cannot translate them directly from Norwegian to Basque and Finnish. Of course I can keep the English version somewhere else, but it's quite convenient to keep them here since they are then interwiki-linked, the documentation is easily readable, and it comes with the bonus that the bot can easily be enabled at English Wikipedia if anyone's interested in using it for article contents here. – Danmichaelo (talk) 05:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 07:37, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 08:09, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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