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About disambiguation pages

Is a disambiguation page which only links to deleted/non-existent pages eligible for speedy deletion under G8? CoolSkittle (talk) 14:19, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi CoolSkittle. I would say no, Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G8 does not apply. But some administators may use G8 in some cases. Do you have an example in mind? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

It is eligible under G6, not G8. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:42, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

I would look at "View history" to see if the disambiguation page is recently created or past dated. If new, another editor may be preparing to add the linked pages, and so I would recommend keeping. Otherwise if the page has no recent activity, then proceed with deletion. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 18:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

signature

hey sorry follow up question, can you give me code for a highlighted talk? i have code for my name highlighted but i the hightlight in a different color, also is it against policy to just have your name and no talk like thishandatoe 15:03, 8 October 2018 (UTC)? thanks

It's fine to not have a talk link. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

You could use something like [[User_talk:Handatoe|talk]] which produces talk with a green word on a light yellowish background or you could use other colours. Just make sure you're using foreground and background colours with enough contrast between them. For example, I'd suggest using a lighter pink and darker blue in the userpage link, like this: handatoe ([[User:Handatoe|handatoe]]). The darker background will make the foreground look slightly lighter than it is, which might be useful if you want to put the next to some non-highlighted link and not have one look noticeably darker than the other. – Pretended leer (talk) 19:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

thanks man [[User:UserBob|UserBob]] (talk) 13:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC) but it's still code

@Handatoe: On your preferences page, under the box where you set your signature, you need to turn on the "Treat the above as wiki markup" box. Otherwise, the code will simply display as plain text. – numbermaniac 01:23, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

"Invalid CSRF format?"

I recently attempted to upload an image, under the photos of deceased persons section, and filled out the copyright form as best I could based on my understanding (it is my understanding that someone more experienced and with the proper user permissions looks it over before giving the file the final "okay"), however as soon as I finished filling out all parameters and hit the upload button, a little pop-up said that it couldn't work because of an "Invalid CSRF format". What is this and how do I fix it? WesSirius (talk) 02:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

How long did it take you to fill out the box? Sometimes, if you leave it alone for a couple hours and come back to it, then try to submit an edit or upload, you'll get an "Invalid CSRF token" error. It's happened to me when trying to make an edit with Twinkle on articles that have been open for a while. – numbermaniac 01:24, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Adding a character on Wikipedia

Dear helper

I know one an aspiring character , he is a journalist and econmeist He has been very successful in his work as he now almost the CEO of a company , as he writes for for an Arabic well known E newspaper red by Arabs around the globe , he has PHD in accounting and he is going to start his own business very soon as will he has been on TV interviews and radios many times , he has more than 5,000 followers on twitter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdulrahim AJ (talk • contribs) 02:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

You will find the notability criteria at WP:BIO. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:48, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

When I see the words "aspiring", "almost", and "very soon", in your question, I suspect the answer must be "No, not yet. Wait until he is notable." Maproom (talk) 08:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

machine

i alos whant to make doremon117.237.217.7 (talk) 02:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, IP user, I have no idea what you are asking. Please make your question clearer. --ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

NRMA VS NRMA INSURANCE

Hi all,

I work for NRMA Insurance ( IAG) and trying to set up our own NRMA Insurance wiki page. At the moment there is an NRMA page which relates to Motoring and Services / Roadside assistance.

Its very confusing as people see NRMA as the same brand but really they are different.

How do I go about a separate NRMA Insurance page as the reality is that it should be two different pages. There is info about NRMA Insurance on the motoring and services page and have tried cutting and passing it before to create a NRMA Insurance page but it doesn't let me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nrmainsurance (talk • contribs) 05:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

See Insurance_Australia_Group for the parent company. See NRMA Insurance for the block log of repeated attempts to create the article. You will have to make a good case to get an article created. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 06:17, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

You are blocked until change Username, as names are for individuals, not companies or groups of people. Also read WP:PAID to learn the extra steps required when a person is employed by what they want to write about. David notMD (talk) 09:41, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Editing

How do we change edit to edit source on the plant earth research page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertoeford (talk • contribs) 03:01, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Note: this appears to relate to The Wikipedia Adventure, rather than to an article. --ColinFine (talk) 13:25, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Revenues including references for (international) companies

Hello hosts,

I usually edit in the german wikipedia, so please forgive me my language skills.

In some of the english articles about companies, I'd like to translate into german, no revenue is shown. I'd prefer to add this information in the english articles before translating them with notables references.

As sources I only know Bloomberg and maybe Forbes, but could you recommend me a general approach to fill in this gap in the articles? Maybe there's already a Wikipedia Help page about this question?

Specific example: DigitalOcean

Many thanks for the help. Best regards --Hundsrose (talk) 15:59, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hundsrose, as far as I know all companies that are traded on stock exchanges (listed companies) are required to make their annual reports and audits available to the public. According to the English Wikipedia's rules about using primary sources such basic uncontroversial facts and statistics can be sourced from the company's own publications. However if the subject is a private (unlisted) company such information is often simply not available at all. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:10, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Roger (Dodger67) (talk), thanks for the fast reply and your hints. Is there a place where can I figure out if a company is traded on a stock exchange or do I have to rely on the company webpage? I guess DigitalOcean is not stock listed, but I would like to be sure about that. And also in this case, is there a way to add similiar public information for wikipedia articles about companies to be more transparent? Thanks for the help. --Hundsrose (talk) 18:35, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Hundsrose. Bloomberg is an excellent source of information about the structure of a business, and they say that DigitalOcean is a private company. That means their stock is not traded on stock exchanges. This company blog post from early this year says that an IPO is part of their long term planning, but I can see no evidence that it it has happened or is imminent. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:36, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it, I can't see the information that DigitalOcean is a private company from the Bloomberg page: DigitalOcean Snapshot. Maybe you can assist me once more? The blog is not only interesting because of their IPO plans. In the first section, the author claims: "We are rapidly approaching $200M in annual recurring revenue ..." . One of the points for the notability of new company articles in german wikipedia is a revenue of minimum EUR100M (about $115M). Would you understand this sentence as a revenue bigger than $115M and therefore notable in german wikipedia (also in case the blog counts as reference source)? --Hundsrose (talk) 23:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

This Company Overview from Bloomberg identifies the company as private, in the categories at the bottom of the page, and also in the URL. Contrast this with the Bloomberg listing for Ford Motor Company which includes the stock market ticker and various stock price statistics at the top of the page. Companies traded on stock exchanges are always listed this way. As for the issues regarding German Wikipedia, I cannot offer much help because I do not know their standards. It is up to them whether they accept a self-published blog's statement about that company's revenue as a reliable source. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:38, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it! Thanks for the eureka effects. My questions have been answered :) --Hundsrose (talk) 13:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Where to appeal a decision

An administrator has deleted an article I wrote because he says I have taken material from non-free sources without permission. I believe he is mistaken. Where should I bring this up so that a third party with authority would look at it and compare what I wrote with the quite different text I am accused of borrowing from? Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 11:19, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

You may ask the deleting administrator on his/her talk page. —AE (talk • contributions) 11:23, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

There is already a lengthy debate about extent of copyright infringement at Deisenbe's Talk page, so taking it up with the Administrator (Editor?) who triggered the Speedy Deletion does not move the problem forward.David notMD (talk) 14:13, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

The question was also asked and answered at #Where to bring a matter up above. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

User page deleted?

Hello, I think my user page no longer exists. I can log in via my pc, but have seen a notice saying the page no longer exists. I'm afraid I don't know what to do. Can you help? *ptrs4all* (talk) 15:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, your user page has not been deleted you can see it here User:*ptrs4all*. Theroadislong (talk) 15:41, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I think I got myself in a pickle!*ptrs4all* (talk) 16:56, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Where to bring a matter up

Someone I believe an administrator has claimed that an article I wrote (which he deleted) made unfair use of non-free material. I believe he was mistaken. Without going into the details, where should I bring this up so as to, in essence, appeal what he did, to have someone else look at it? Thanks. deisenbe (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

I see that this has already been discussed at length here, where, it seems to me, all your complaints have been fully answered. Maproom (talk) 16:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

... and the 2 articles in question have been listed at WP:Copyright problems, so will be investigated there. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:49, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

My complaints have NOT been fully answered. I want someone to actually look at the 80% that I am alleged to have copied, put what I wrote next to what I supposedly copied from, and tell me where the copying is. Is it that I took the list of ten monunents they are focusing on from their Web page even though what I wrote about each monument is, with a few exceptions, original?

I would like to add that this whole thing has been brought up in a discorteous, even insulting way, as if I were some cockroach who crawled out of the woodwork to steal things and waste your time. I don’t believe I deserve that treatment, nor is it the way I understand WP editors are supposed to interact.

Finally, my question here has not been answered. Specifically where may I defend myself? Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 17:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Since the articles, as already mentioned, are listed at WP:Copyright problems, somebody who is experienced in copyright matters and uninvolved in the previou discussion will investigate the issue (and actually look at the content you are alleged to have copied). --bonadea contributions talk 17:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Need help designing / editing an infobox

Hi all, I need some guidance on how to design an infobox from scratch or edit an existing one. I am currently going through these pages - Manual of Style/Infoboxes, Wikipedia:Template namespace and Help:Designing infoboxes but was hoping if somebody could give me an easier way of doing it.

My purpose is to make an infobox for Indian parliament committees along the lines of this one - Template:Infobox U.S. congressional committee. I need to change the template data and corresponding documentation to ensure that the references are lined up according to the indian data and should not link back to the american ones. How to do that ?

Hoping for an easy answer. Cheers --Politicoindian (talk) 22:45, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Code of conduct when covering corporate scandals

Hi, I've started a new article on the Danske Bank money laundering scandal, as it's obviously notable by now. I also think an objective article on this is badly needed and would ask for anyone interested to help build the article. My only question is, if there are any specific codes of conduct when covering corporations? As an article on the topic of corporate fraud it looks similar to the Wells Fargo account fraud scandal. Thanks. Blomsterhagens (talk) 21:32, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Blomsterhagens. I'm not sure what you mean by a Code of Conduct. The constraints are the same as for any other article: find reliably published sources, independent of the subject if possible, and report only what is in those sources. Do not use any language which might be seen as evaluative (positive or negative) unless you are explicitly quoting a specific source. Do not attempt any sort of argumentation or conclusion except what is actually in a single source (i.e., avoid original research). Include sources from all sides of the issue, giving appropriate weight if there is more material available on one side or another. --ColinFine (talk) 22:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

adding citation (and then adding the citation to the reference list)

I am not clear how to addition citations when I edit and then how to add those citations to the Reference section in the formation of the reference section (see case reports).

David

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to make it better and for wanting to add citations for your additions. Please read WP:REFB, it is the getting started guide for referencing. If you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to ask. RudolfRed (talk) 23:36, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Page update

Hi I was hoping you could update the Saracens Past players page on your site, I was a member of the Saracens Squad during the 1997/8 season

I am mentioned in the Statbunker page http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/getCompClubSquad?comp_id=41&club_id=54

I am George Luck — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Luck (talk • contribs) 23:24, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello George. We don't appear to have a page (or rather Article) titled 'Saracens past players' (which is why an attempt to link it shows in red): the nearest I can find is Section 5.4 of the Saracens F.C. article, called Notable former players – is this what you meant?

If so, you'll notice that every one of the names in that list is a blue wikilink to a complete Wikipedia article about that player, and to have such an article means the person concerned is "notable" in the special Wikipedia sense, which is that enough material for an article about them has been found in several published Reliable sources. Such material needs to be discussion or description extended over several paragraphs, not just passing mentions or inclusions in lists, which are useful for confirming individual facts, but not for demonstrating notability. The particular criteria that would apply to you as a Rugby player are detailed at Wikipedia:Notability (sports).

As far as I can tell (though I haven't checked every article), all of the players in the list have also represented their countries at international level. The link you've provided seems on investigation to show only that a "G. Luck" played in one game for Saracens, for 43 minutes, in the 1997-8 season.

I'm sure that there are many other past Sarries players who, like you, are not in that list: Wikipedia does not usually attempt to list every single person who falls into any given category, because it is not intended to be a comprehensive directory (see Wikipedia:Not), and because it would often be either enormously difficult or outright impossible to do so. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.102.65 (talk) 01:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)