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How do you change the photo in the bio box?

Hello,

Can anyone provide guidance on how to change the photo that appears in the profile box for an entry about a person? I'm a new editor.

Thanks,

John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnwcote (talk • contribs) 23:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

The image used in the box is designated in the "image" line in the infobox template. Changing it requires substituting another image's file name. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:04, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Johnwcote. Changing an infobox image is fairly easy to do; you just need to replace the current image with another one as explained above. However, you can only use images which are already uploaded to either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons; in other words, you cannot add images found on external websites, unless you upload them to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons first. Before you upload any images though, you should carefully look at Wikipedia:Image use policy, Wikipedia:Non-free content and c:Commons:Licensing because only certains types of content can be uploaded and used in Wikipedia articles and how such content can be used largely depends upon its copyright status. In addition to copyright matters, changing an infobox image can sometimes be a contentious thing to do and it's often a good idea to be cautious and propose such a change first on the article's talk page. You're not required to do so, and perhaps nobody will have a problem with the new image; if, however, someone does contest the change by reverting your edit, please follow Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and discuss things on the article talk page.

Finally, I'm curious about this edit sum for one of your edits to Dennis Herrera. All of the edits you've made with this account have been made to the Herrera artcle, so I'm assuming you question here at the Teahouse is also related to Herrera. Anyway, you refered to the article as "our page" in the aforementioned edit sum, so I'm wondering if that means you are connected in someway to Herrera. If you are connected to him, either personally or professionally, then you would most likely be considered to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest with respect to anything written about him on Wikipedia. Wikipedia doesn't explicitly prohibit conflict-of-interest editing, but it does highly discourage it because it can lead to some serious problems. So, if you do have such a conflict, please read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and follow the guidelines listed on that page as closely as possible. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia's guidelines for vulgar language?

Hi everyone, I'm attempting to copy edit this page for tone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gag_name The text has quite a bit of vulgar language (and I'm wondering if that isn't why it was flagged for editing). My question is, essentially, is that okay? I have no issue with strong language but I am unfamiliar with Wikipedia's standards for that kind of thing. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Citrivescence (talk • contribs) 01:10, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@Citrivescence: Yes, it's OK for the purpose being used in that article, particularly since most examples are vulgar. See also the policy Wikipedia is not censored. It would not be OK to use vulgar language in article prose, but perfectly fine in quotations and relevant examples. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

'H.L.A. Hart' Biography Entry - Article 'Law and Fact'

A team called 'Hartteam' edited the wiki page on H.L.A Hart, and added some information to his biography. There they added four articles he published during his early time. 3 of them I can find, but the 4th, titled 'Law and Fact', I cannot find mentioned anywhere. Is there a possibility to contact the person who made the addition to the wiki page, to ask for a citation or the article itself?

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1c01:2f07:3f00:48e9:a2b7:46ac:2e29 (talk) 17:23, 7 August 2018‎ (UTC)

Hello 2001:1c01:2f07:3f00:48e9:a2b7:46ac:2e29 and welcome to the Teahouse. A belated welcome, it seems.

The way to contact a Wikipedia editor is to leave a message on their talk page, in this case User talk:Hartteam. The editor may have email notifications set and will see your message in a short time - or, they may not see your message until the next time they log in. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

infobox

someone help me enter the the template infobox bus accident to the article 2018 kiryandongo bus accident — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rollback95 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@Rollback95: could you explain what help you need? There's an infobox on 2018 Kiryandongo Bus Accident already, which you added and another editor moved to the top of the article. What's the current problem? › Mortee _talk 10:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

SEO tools list

Hi, I was just wondering why the page called "List of SEO tools" redirects to Search Engine optimization#Methods - there is no real mention of tools to use here. A list like this is a bit hard to find. Everyone is posting their preferences, but there is no definitive, informative list of everything on the market. And I do believe an informative list like this would be helpful to many people. So, since there are other lists on Wikipedia, my question is - why not this one?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorraNoire (talk • contribs) 09:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Such a list would be a magnet for promotional editors wanting to use Wikipedia as advertising for their SEO tool. See WP:NOTADVERTISING, WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Iffy★Chat -- 10:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

CorraNoire We can only have such a page if independent reliable sources have published such lists. If not, it's not a notable topic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:27, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Hello CorraNoire and welcome to the Teahouse.

If you examine the history of List of SEO Tools, you'll see that in 2010 or so, there was an attempt at an article. It was turned into a redirect because the article was unreferenced and too incomplete to be considered useful. And it is never Wikipedia's goal to have a list of "everything on the market". Opinions about SEO as an activity are quite varied and the Methods section mentions the distinction between "black hat" and "white hat" approaches. That sort of controversy is going to make creating a list on WP rather hard. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:34, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up to Help me guys im poor but need a ghost typer

anyone able to write a Article about Icynexstar i have pictures and info all i need is someone who has the time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Icynexstar (talk • contribs) 15:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Icynexstar: - the original request is archived here, and was responded to by yours truly. The answer remains the same, so I will copy and paste it here in hopes (perhaps futile) of more comprehension and engagement on behalf of the OP - In relation to your query, I am afraid that you are likely out of luck. You appear to have a common misunderstanding of Wikipedia. We don't write "wikis" about people who ask for one. We write encyclopedic articles about subjects which satisfy the notability guidelines, using citations from reliable sources. A google search shows that you don't satisfy our threshold for notability, as your web presence is minimal beyond self-created Genius pages. Moreover, having you have a conflict of interest in editing matters related to yourself and your corpus of work, and shouldn't seek an autobiography. Besides, an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. As such, alas, an article about you is not a possibility in the foreseeable future. However, with improved penmanship and grammar, and perusal of our pillars, you could become a valuable contributor to Wikipedia, and I urge you to attempt to do so. Hope this helps, and don't hesitate to ask any further questions. The answer, similar to the question, is unchanged. Hopefully, you will need it this time. It is worth noting that editors are unpaid volunteers, and have no obligation to edit outside of topics which interest them. Thus, being poor won't coerce people to pen a promotional puff-piece on your behalf. Nonetheless, perhaps in can, I hope this helps, Stormy clouds (talk) 15:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC).

  If it's any consolation, Icynexstar, once you have made a name for yourself as a musician, perhaps some fan or other editor will create an article about you then. If you are indeed an upcoming rapper, then over time you may become notable enough to have an encyclopedic article written about you.

  With that said, be thankful you don't have an article about yourself yet; if you ever do, it will not be within your control and will serve as a place for documenting your public life. Many notable subjects do not like having articles about themselves, especially since certain personal information and controversies are often documented there, too. We occasionally find musicians and celebrities creating accounts to delete content from biographies about them, only for that content to be restored minutes later because the inclusion of that information is not their decision. Perhaps one day, you will be faced with that curse of fame, but until then, focus on your art and let it speak for itself. If it's good enough, others will notice it and write about you without you having to ask. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 14:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Citing a source more than once

I note that on many pages a source is cited more than once and the reference number remains the same, but the reference list recognizes the subsequent citations with a, b, c… How is this done? Anobium625 (talk) 02:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Anobium625. There are a number of ways to cite the same source multiple times in an article, but the way you7re seeing it done is explained in WP:REFNAME. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:48, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the prompt reply.Anobium625 (talk) 02:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Anobium625: there are a few ways to do this. Two ways I use are 1) giving the reference a name: "this is true<ref name="source">{{cite book|...}}</ref> and that is true<ref name="source" /> and 2) using {{sfn}} to give short references to a different page number within a reference I've already used. I'd be happy to help more if I can. You're welcome to ask a question on my talk page or at the teahouse. I've found referencing a surprisingly deep subject and the best way to learn it has been to look at the source of good articles. There are all kinds of tricks to pick up. › Mortee _talk 02:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, too! If I'm not successful, I'll get back to you for more help.Anobium625 (talk) 03:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC) Got it! Cf. Constance Savery, if interested.Anobium625 (talk) 14:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Help with references

I am FARRR too lazy to use refernces, so can you add some sort of auto ref system? Addust (talk) 21:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear, Addust. Maybe Wikipedia won't suit you then! References really are essential for Verifiability to support almost everything we add to this encyclopaedia, and simple opinions (and silly comments in articles) will swiftly get removed. Did you realise that many references to books, newspapers and websites can be automatically inserted using the Visual Editor. It's more WISYWIG than our source editor, though many long-term editors do tend to prefer the latter. If you need help with this, just let us know. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:30, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Even using the source editor, most references are straightforward when the "cite" templates are used. It's just a matter of filling in a few boxes in "cite web", "cite news", "cite book", or "cite journal" template. People who turn to Wikipedia for information deserve to know the sources of that information. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

You still have to use references, but Wikipedia:REFILL can be a help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

REPLY from Addust: You could just add it so if you add the name of an arcticle in an edit, it automatically becomes a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Addust (talk • contribs) 08:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:REFILL is a bit like that. You add the bare url between the reftags <ref></ref>, save the page and then use the refill tool. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Addust blocked. David notMD (talk) 10:36, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh well, one can only try. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:18, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Removal or renaming of content

There is a page on the Isle of Man Portal referring to "Manx Electricity Authority: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Manx_Electricity_Authority&action=edit

This no longer exists.... the service is now called Manx Utilities as its both Water and Electricity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.10.102.252 (talk) 13:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I've updated the article to note this. However in future, if you see things like this you should consider being bold and making the changes yourself. Everyone is welcome to make constructive changes to Wikipedia! Neiltonks (talk) 16:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

article's quality classification

Hi people! I'm just trying to find an article that describes the article's quality classification. Does anybody could help me? Thank you. Greetings Lu Brito (talk) 17:50, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Content assessment – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Inclusion of external link

I tried to include, in the article about John Michael Greer, a page which I maintain, listing his works. The article has a history of discussion about providing a list of his works; I decided that a good compromise would be to include a list maintained outside of Wikipedia. However, the inclusion was reverted by an automated system. Is there anything that can be done to make this external site compliant?

--Packshaud (talk) 18:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Packshaud. The link addition was reverted because wordpress is essentially just a blogging service, and blogs are generally not to be linked to according to policy except in a few circumstances, such as when the blog is written by a recognized authority on the subject. GMG^talk 19:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

spacing error in new article title?

I just posted another article about a member of the Virginia Constitutional Convention of 1868, who also served in the House of Delegates (and so meets the notability guideline). Though I changed the Virginia Constitutional Convention link associated with the Albemarle County delegate to reflect his first name rather than initial, the link doesn't go to the article I just added. Since this laptop has a spacebar problem, I suspect that I didn't actually add a space between his middle initial and surname, which would cause the broken link. However, I cannot see it, nor correct it. I would appreciate some help here. I know these 19th century politicians seem pretty trivial, but I have met historians who appreciate my work. Thanks.Jweaver28 (talk) 21:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Is this about Clifton L.Thompson? It would be more helpful to tell us what article the problem is in, rather than why you believe he's notable. Maproom (talk) 21:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

how do i include a reference/link that backs up what i wrote and how does the corresponding number get added in the text, newbie here on wiki.ty

how do i include a reference in the list below a page and the number in the text that corresponds with it? a newbie here so i got little experience yet with wikipedia. thanks for any advice. bryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dutchmzungu (talk • contribs) 17:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Dutchmzungu, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please read referencing for beginners both for how to add references, and how to identify acceptable sources to reference. --ColinFine (talk) 18:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I also added a quick little something to his talk page, since it's something that I use. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Does a college course offered as part of a graduate program at an accredited program qualify as a notable subject for an article??

I am a teaching assistant for a course being taught at a large public college in the US. My professor has asked me to research the possibility of creating a Wikipedia article for the class that could be used as a reference by the students in the class. I am wondering if this would qualify as a "notable" worthy topic for an article. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhns 03 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Lhns 03. The question I would ask is, which reliable published sources (such as major newspapers, or books from reputable publishers) have contained extended information about your course, not deriving from anybody connected with the course? If, as I expect, the answer is "None", then your course is not notable and not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article.

I'm not quite clear what you're trying to achieve: I'd be very surprised if your professor accepted references to Wikipedia articles in assignments, as Wikipedia is not a reliable source, being edited by anybody. If your professor wants somewhere for you all to communicate among yourselves, a wiki might be a way of doing it, but not Wikipedia. You might want to take a look at WP:Educational program. --ColinFine (talk) 18:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lhns 03, the link ColinFine meant to give you is actually WP:Education program. I have created a redirect Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 00:04, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Image editing

I remember there is somewhere on this website where volunteers can do simple image editing. I want to request some editing of an image... could someone point me in the right direction? With thanks, --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tom (LT) I think you're looking for the WP:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 23:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for :). --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Changing User name

hey i am trying to change my user name can any one help me getting set up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitalvybzmusic (talk • contribs) 02:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@Digitalvybzmusic: see Wikipedia:Changing username. Since you haven't made many edits, you could just create a new account with the desired username. That way, you wouldn't have to go through the bureaucracy of changing your user name. If you did that, it would probably be a good idea to let people know by adding a note to your new account's user page. For example, you might write, "My previous account was Digitalvybzmusic." NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Winnipeg Table Hockey League (WTHL) Nominate for deletion?

So I prod-ed this article as I thought it didn't meet WP:NSPORTS, WP:CLUB or WP:GNG requires, the person who created the article Scapizzi removed the nomination saying it met WP:CLUB due to their activities being National and significant coverage. I don't want to get into a deletion discussion here as I know its not the place but I'm not sure if I should be taking the next step and AFD the article. The National coverage Scapizzi talks about is just the fact that the sport is a National sport, not that this league played National league as far as I can tell. As for the significant coverage, most of it is local news and the organisation own websites. I'm happy if I'm wrong, but it feels more like an advert for the league and the game. NZFC^(talk)(cont) 01:50, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I removed a bunch of unsourced stuff and also the logo which is a copyright violation to the organization's website. I'm not seeing notability, but I try not to get involved in sports related notability discussions. Thanks, NZFC. John from Idegon (talk) 05:00, 16 August 2018 (UTC)