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How to remove inappropriate category? Not listed in content

Greetings – At article Requiem the category Category:Arts and culture navigational boxes appears at the article bottom. When doing an Edit, that category does not show, so not possible to remove. Before asking here I have already done the "Purge" and searched TH archives for a possible solution. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 13:28, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. That Category is called up in Template:Death and mortality in art. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:31, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I have now put "noinclude" tags around the category call in the template, then purged the article, and the category no longer appears in the article. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks David Biddulph for fixing this as it is way beyond anything I would know how to do. I call it "wikicode magic". Cheers! :-) — JoeHebda • (talk) 13:39, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I need help desperately

I really need help making templates and userboxes for my new wikiproject because I have no idea how to do so. The project name is at the end of this post. Thank you very much. Ilikeguys21 (talk) 13:17, 27 April 2016 (UTC) Wikipedia:WikiProject Essential Oils

You say "Several Wikipedians have formed this collaboration resource...", so I suggest that you ask for help from some of those collaborators. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:28, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Greetings Ilikeguys21 – Chiming in with my two-cents worth, after looking at article Essential oil and the new WP page, I would suggest creation of an article List of essential oils and add the content from Wikipedia:WikiProject Essential Oils#Open tasks section. This might be a better way of improving the Wikipedia encyclopedia. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 13:54, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Woops, article List of essential oils already exists. (edited my prev. posting) — JoeHebda • (talk) 13:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

What is correct way to include page numbers when using Named References?

I'm using 'Named References' several times while inserting inline citations with the RefToolBar (in my sandbox). It seems that I should include the book's page numbers if I'm using that reference several times. I notice that in the reference list, named references show up with 'a', 'b,' etc depending on how many times I've used a named reference. But, these letters don't show up on the inline citation. I think I need more advanced instruction on the using named references. Is there an extended explanation somewhere, or would someone please give me some guidance on the correct way to use the named reference tool? Thanks. Drvalsummers (talk) 02:26, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Drvalsummers. I am not sure if there is any one correct way, but I believe you can use Template:Rp to indicate page numbers next to the footnote marker. There is also a little more complicated way which uses short footnotes. I believe Template:Harv works in most citation templates. An example of how this can be used in the "Cite Web" template is found at Template:Cite web#Anchor. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:10, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I think the options Marchjuly mentioned are discussed here: Help:References and page numbers Gab4gab (talk) 14:56, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Changes Made to a rejected article and questions from a new editor

Hi! This is with regard to my article ' the label life' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarovaram11/sandbox It was rejected for 2 reasons sources and using peacock language. The reviewer then put it up here at the teahouse and stated that after a second look, the article appreared well sourced (see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions&oldid=prev&diff=714416453) With regard to the peacock language, after i learned what it was, I made changes to the article to make it read neutrally. I would appreciate it if an experienced editor could take a look and let me know if it is sufficient?

With regard to his other questions: I am not associated with this company, and the title of the article is 'the label life' (how do I add this to my sandbox?)

I 'm putting this up as a new question as I'm not sure how to add to the original thread. If someone could guide me with regard to these matters, I would appreciate it very much!

Thanks Sarovaram11 Sarovaram11 (talk) 07:11, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Sarovaram11, I've moved the page to Draft:The Label Life All of your content and edit history is now moved that this page. I'm not an expert on which articles are approved through the AfC process so I'll let another editor help with that aspect. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 13:44, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Notice that, to confuse the issue, the OP has created a different draft at Draft:The Lable Life [sic]. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:51, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Sarovaram11. The text of your draft copies that of User:Elephantbaby4/sandbox which was created before you pasted it into both Draft:The Label Life and Draft:The Lable Life. Are you editing under two different accounts, Elephantbaby4 and Sarovaram11? If not, you cannot simply take another editor's work and copy it without attribution. That will have to be sorted out as well as the issue of your duplicate drafts. As to the current content, I think this would be unlikely to survive an articles for deletion discussion. As an Articles for Creation reviewer, I would not be inclined to accept it with the current sourcing. The company is less than 4 years old and while the puffery has been removed, the sources are almost exclusively based on press releases. In reaction to floods of articles masquerading as advertorials and almost exclusively written by paid editors or company employees, the standards for articles on businesses have been considerably tightened in the last year. Voceditenore (talk) 15:18, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Limited additions to a specific page.

I have available information, maps, and a copy of an original photograph relevant to the page "Caspar Samler farm." I don't contemplate doing any real editing otherwise. Is it best to contact one of the main contributors of the material and dump it on them; or have them walk me through it? Richard Carvill King (talk) 16:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Neither of the above. Improvements to Wikipedia should (with very rare exceptions) be coordinated on-wiki. That is the purpose of talk pages. Provide your edits at the article talk page, Talk:Caspar Samler farm. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:04, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Correcting a bad link on a page for my employer.

Hello, with full disclosure I'm an employee of Trustco Bank in Schenectady, NY. I have not been paid to monitor or edit the article. I'm honestly just a bored employee who decided to see what our companies wiki page says. I did notice one small inaccuracy. In the info box on the right of the article Trustco Bank the link to our CEO Robert J. McCormick links to a completely different Robert J. McCormick. This specific article says the Robert McCormick in question is dead. I can confirm that our CEO is currently alive and well I was at a company dinner with him last week. Also to my knowledge he has never lived in NYC or been a psychologist. I know I should not edit this article I just figured I'd point out an inaccuracy so someone could potentially fix it. Thanks. 216.136.44.62 (talk) 17:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

 Removed Hi 216.136.44.62 and welcome to the Teahouse. Per your request, I've removed the link to Robert J. McCormick, as it's not about the correct person. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:18, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Categories for fictional character?

Should a character be categorised as if it/they were a real person, e.g. "XXXXs births", "People from ......."? I was looking at Allan Gordon, which seems to be a bit of a hot mess, generally. Advice? Probability amplitude (talk) 21:48, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

No, fictional characters should not categorized with real people. They should instead be put into categories like Category:Fictional detectives and Category:Fictional characters introduced in 2016. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Editing Further Reading section.

Hello,

I used the cheat sheet entry [url name] to try and name my link in the Further Reading section of the Wikipedia entry for Coherer, but it did not work. Is there a trick I'm missing?

Regards, Tcuff231 (talk) 21:49, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. Some stray tags got in there. Cheers, Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 22:30, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Live Setlist Editing?

I was wondering if the page for a concert tour should be edited as information is released regarding the setlist? TheKaphox (talk) 22:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

If it is covered in a Reliable Source, then you can add the new information. RudolfRed (talk) 23:17, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

review a draft

Could someone please take a moment to review this draft? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jeff_Cavins In the opinion of one of the hosts, since this is my first article, does this look like it would not be deleted upon completion? MJudeDunn (talk) 18:27, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello, MJudeDunn, and welcome to the Teahouse. It looks like a review has been requested using the appropriate template at Draft:Jeff Cavins. Drafts aren't generally deleted if they fail review. You will get plenty more time to work on it if the draft is not successful the first time it gets reviewed. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, MJudeDunn. One significant problem that I see with your draft is the lack of coverage of Cavins in independent, reliable sources. Almost all of your sources appear to be controlled by Cavins or organizations he works for or is affiliated with. A minor problem is the repeated use of his first name. Our Manual of style says that we give a person's full name at first mention, and then use their surname after that. In conclusion, I have my doubts that Cavins is notable as Wikipedia defines that term. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

There is a difference between a draft being declined and a page (which may be a draft or an article) being deleted. A draft that is declined is sent back for further work, and may or may not be accepted later. Your draft is likely to be declined unless the subject can be established to be notable. I see no reason why it is at risk of being deleted, so that you will be able to continue working on it (but no promise is made that it will be accepted). The Articles for Creation process exists so that new authors can work on their drafts, with reviews, without being at risk of having them deleted, only declined. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)