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November 7

New Orleans Musicians Clinic

The article of that name needs a serious hatchet job. The subject is worthy, I have the skills and can do the research, but most of whats there is irrelevant. Do I go ahead or should I go on some forum to seek concensus? Guidence much appreciated. Mark^Dask 00:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Be bold and improve the article if you think you can help resolve its issues. You only need to discuss the changes if it's either something likely to be controversial, or if another editor voices a concern about the edits. You are of course welcome to discuss it on the talk page regardless, of course. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 00:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, thats all I needed. Mark^Dask 06:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

New article

Hi guys, I've developed a new article - Transport Legislation Review - and I think it's ready to be posted. Still not entirely sure how to move it so it goes live.

Can you please have a look and see what you think. It's only a shortish article, but I've added lots of references, hopefully sufficient to pass muster.

Can you please have a look and push the button if you think it's OK, otherwise please message me.

Cheers, Declan Palmer (talk) 00:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

There's already a section on the Transport Legislation Review here. Your article only has a short chunk of text at the top (the rest is more or less bullet-oriented). Is the new article necessary? Would an expansion of the pre-existing section be more reasonable?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Cheers, no this is different.

There's the Transport Legislation Review itself, the focus of the proposed article, and then there are the things which have come out of it. Basically the Review is a complete renewal project for all of the transport laws in Victoria, a state of 5 million people with a city (Melbourne) of around 4 million. The article you've highlighted relates to just one product of the Review, ie the Transport Integration Act. It wouldn't make sense to put all of the detail about the Review in the middle of an article about one of its products. See the references in the draft to the six other statutes, each of which is deserving of an article because they are the major things of public interest, not just here but accross the world.

This short proposed article is simply explaining the purpose of the Review and pointing to the major things which have come out of it. New statutes or laws by their nature are major and notable things changing as they do the settings for whichever sector is being regulated and affecting the community and the affected industries at the same time.

I was reluctant to add more detail simply because I worried about writing an article that was too long. Persionally, I prefer relatively short contributions. I could add more if it's thought necessary.

Happy to discuss further but I wouldn't have written and propsed the thing if I hadn't thought it was of interest and use. I only wish other jurisdictions would post information about similar things if they have them underway.

Cheers, Declan Palmer (talk) 01:27, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll add some more detail and flesh the subject out a bit more. It's a worthy topic and justifies its own short article I believe. Ta, Declan Palmer (talk) 06:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

References for Star Trek Actors

1. It says on the http://memory-alpha.org/ website that Connor Trinneer grandparents on his mother's side were all from southern Missouri and Northern Arkansas, and provided the inspiration for the southern accent for his role as Trip Tucker. Should this link http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Connor_Trinneer provided as a reference in the article?

2. It says on this link that Aron Eisenberg has a son. http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Aron_Eisenberg Should that info be included in his article?

3. I want to create an article abou the English-Canadian author named Martyn Godfrey. Here a few links about him: http://projects.cbe.ab.ca/ict/2learn/jcreid/famousalbertans/htmlfiles/albertans/godfrey.htm http://www.track0.com/ogwc/authors/godfrey_m.html http://www.yabs.ab.ca/Martyn-Godfrey.asp http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/g/martyn-godfrey/ Please make an article about him. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Wiki pages at http://memory-alpha.org/ are not reliable sources. See WP:SELFPUBLISH and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 46#memory-alpha.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

SUMMAEIES THROUGH WIKIPIDIA

I am doing my masters degree, that is why ,i want summaries of my syllabus's chapter only by wikipidia.plz help me.what can i do to find all summaries of my book in wikipidaonly .

What are you studying? You'll need to tell us what you need help finding so we can find it for you. --Jayron32 04:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Need to edit some family history on Wikipedia

I am new here and this may sound like a real basic question but I need to know the answer. There is an entry for a relative of mine in Wikipedia. Some of the information concerning this deceased relative, including his birth and death dates, is incorrect and I want to correct it but I don't have any online "verifiable" source, just our family records (family bible, funeral book, church records, my brother's genealogy research). Is is permissible for me to make such changes, and if so, how do I reference them? Katherine906 (talk) 04:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The source doesn't have to be online, but it does have to be widely published and publicly availible. Thus, an obituary from an out-of-print paper, which may not be online, but was read presumably by thousands of people and could be found at your local library, would count as a verifiable source. However, your family bible would not, since not anyone could go to your house to look it up. Do you have ANY sources for the information which were published sources, even if they aren't online? --Jayron32 04:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Martyn Godfrey

I want to create an article abou the English-Canadian author named Martyn Godfrey. Here a few links about him: http://projects.cbe.ab.ca/ict/2learn/jcreid/famousalbertans/htmlfiles/albertans/godfrey.htm http://www.track0.com/ogwc/authors/godfrey_m.html http://www.yabs.ab.ca/Martyn-Godfrey.asp http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/g/martyn-godfrey/ Please make an article about him. Thanks!Neptunekh2 (talk) 04:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you have a go yourself? Standard advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. – ukexpat (talk) 14:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Change entry header/part of title

Hello all, I was recently editing a page [Significance (journal)] and was wondering how to change the 'journal' part to 'magazine'? It was initially created with 'Journal' but it's actually a magazine and not a journal...help! Many thanks, Abdelhk. talk 12:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

As you are an autoconfirmed user, you can simply move the page to its new title. As a bonus, this will automatically leave a redirect page at the previous title. It would then be good practice to go through the links pointing to the page (using 'What links here') and edit them to point directly at the new page. --ColinFine (talk) 13:56, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Donald Graves biography

I am not sure whether I am at the right place because I found your so-called "assistance" mechanisms totally confusing.

I am the subject of a Wikipedia biographical article. I did not write this article nor do I know the author of it. While it is overall accurate, it is somewhat outdated in terms of my positions and publications, incomplete in terms of my educated and incorrect in terms of my current position.

How do I go about updating and correcting this biography?

Sincerely DE Graves —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.29.230 (talk) 14:35, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Updating an article about yourself is problematic. You should read some of the relevant Wikipedia policies such as WP:COI, WP:AUTOBIO, WP:OR, and WP:BLP. If you have little knowledge about Wikipedia editing generally, you should also read WP:HOW (and the places it points to). Unfortunately, aside from any currency problems the Graves articles has, the article itself is not up to standards as it cites no outside sources for any of the material (putting aside the bibliography). See WP:RS.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

You are in one of the right places. I will watch Talk:Donald Graves. You can post suggestions for changes there. If you want to add information then please give published sources even if you personally know it to be true. If you want incorrect information about you removed then published sources stating it is incorrect are not required when the incorrect information is currently unsourced. The article was created by User:RCHussar on 13 July 2007 and the information has not been updated since. RCHussar is no longer active. At WP:DATED we tell editors to avoid terms like "currently" because information can later become obsolete, but some editors don't know all the relevant policies and guidelines. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Can't login

when I attempt to login (well, yeah I forgot my password; use the same one everyplace -- no security: use a different one everyplace -- no memory)

   I got:    essentially "no such user"

----------------------->  so my normal username is not in use

  but now I get:

As an anti-spam measure, you are limited from performing this action too many times in a short space of time, and you have exceeded this limit. Please try again in a few minutes.

Return to Special:UserLogin

------------------->   which I understand

When I try to create an account with this name I get:

Login error

The requested username is already taken in the unified login system. Please choose a different name.

---

> how do I find my "unified login system" account and password? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.58.75.3 (talk) 16:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Have I understood correctly that you forgotten your user name? Some suggestions: If you have ever edited anything at Wikipedia while logged in, your user name will be listed in the page history. Or, if you can remember or guess the first few letters of the name, then Special:ListUsers may help. Or, if you registered an email address when you set up your account, you may still have the confirmation email that was sent to you. Bear in mind that these names are case-sensitive.

If you find the correct user name and have forgotten the password, see Help:Logging in.

If I've misunderstood, please scan Help:Logging in and then post again here. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia is one of many Wikimedia wikis with a unified login system. The user name may have been registered at one of the others and prevent you from getting it here. There are also restrictions on very similar usernames to avoid impersonaters and confusion. We can say more if you tell the username. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:59, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Messaging a member list

Hey folks, I know there's a bot somewhere around that can send a group message to the list of members of a WikiProject - can;t remember where it is though. Can anyone point me in the right direction, please? Thanks, Colds7ream (talk) 16:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps you were thinking of User:MessageDeliveryBot? The request form is at [1] Intelligentsium 16:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

That's the one, thanks! :-) Colds7ream (talk) 21:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Two issues: Notes vs. References and Page Visitation Count.

Hi. I'm the primary author of the Michael Sabo page.

1) There are four Notes listed. Two of them are actually References (#1, #3). When I try to edit the Notes to copy and paste #1 and #3 into the References area, no notes are visible in the HTML box. In other words, I just don't see how to do this.

2) Also, is there a way to see how many hits the page has? Can I put a meter at the bottom of the page?

Many thanks! ChrisBayer (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

1) I have collapsed the two sections into one. The {{reflist}} code pulls together the inline references that are formatted with <ref>....</ref> tags, so you must look at the whole of the article in edit mode to find such references in order to edit them

2. No. Oops, see below, thanks for the tip, never noticed that before! – ukexpat (talk) 19:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

It is possible to see the page view stats on the article's history tab (at the top in blue, at least for me). But no "meter" on the actual article. AlexiusHoratius 19:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

London Underground stations - new name for each page

Hi,

Although London Underground's parent company, Transport for London, has incorrectly called the whole London Underground 'The Tube', as said in the main LU article here on Wikipedia, I think that at least Wikipedia should at least be correct.

'The Tube' really means the following lines: Bakerloo Central Jubilee Northern Piccadilly Victoria Waterloo & City

not: Circle District Hammersmith & City Metropolitan

which are 'Sub-surface'.

I have contacted TfL and they are considering rebranding the system to 'London Underground' or just 'Underground', and trying to discourage the media and the public to call the whole network the 'Tube'.

I am not trying to be pedantic, but would it be possible to change all London Underground stations' page titles to Underground, e.g. Green Park Underground station, instead of Green Park tube station, because there is no 'Tube' at, for example, Mansion House? It would also be good if the word 'Tube' is only used to inform readers of the difference between 'deep level tube' and 'sub-surface' on the whole of Wikipedia.

Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by George Moore 1995 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

When I lived in London the whole of the Underground was referred to as "the Tube" irrespective of whether it was "deep level", "sub-surface" or "above ground" and as far as I know that is still the common usage. Rebranding by TfL could be mentioned in the article if and when it happens (citing a source of course), but I don't think we should edit out the common usage just because TfL wants to engage in some rebranding/marketing exercise. – ukexpat (talk) 23:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I think that in insisting on the distinction between "tube" and "sub-surface" lines you are indeed being pedantic, as most Londoners do not make that distinction; and you have no more business saying that TfL are "incorrect" in their choice of name than I would have if I told you that you are "incorrect" in using the name "George Moore 1995". Having said that, I am inclined to agree with you that "Underground station" would be preferable for article titles than "tube station", but not for your reason. But really that comes down to the evidential question of which form the "reliable sources" more commonly use (see WP:COMMONNAME and I haven't checked that. --ColinFine (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

"Ronnie Jagday" Page: Help with Removing Error/Violation message from my Page

Hi There,

I noticed my wikipedia page is not showing and states the below 'flagged' message. how does one remove and ensure no copyright violations???

I have tried and searched unsuccessfully on how I remove.

Thanks!

Ronnie

Possible copyright infringement Copyright-problem.svg

The content of this page may violate Wikipedia's copyright policy and requires review.

This article has been automatically tagged as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted prose taken from other WWW sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Major contributions by contributors who have been verified to have violated copyright in multiple articles may be presumptively deleted in accordance with Wikipedia:Copyright violations.

Because it has been automatically tagged, this article's copyright status requires review. Your help as a Wikipedia editor is requested. This is the procedure to follow. If you have questions about copyright, please follow the links to further information given on the procedure page.

By removing this notice, you assert that you understand our copyright policies and have dealt with any copyright violations which exist on this page. You are responsible for any copyright violations reintroduced by your edits. Please note your action at the corresponding subpage of the CCI as per procedure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.50.28 (talk) 19:37, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

You'll find an explanation and advice at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Darius Dhlomo. David Biddulph (talk) 19:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Jackaroo ( Occupation)

The description is as follows "Jackaroo (occupation), A young man in training on a station in Australia." One could assume that the young man is working on a railway station as it doesn't specify what type of station, i.e. train station, sheep staion, cattle station etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.229.142.184 (talk) 20:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for noticing that; I have re-worded the entry and cleaned up some of the other entries there. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

fake wiki

OK I found this http://greece.wikkii.com/wiki/Main_Page which is a fake wiki. How can such creatures be stopped? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atkenos (talk • contribs) 22:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The MediaWiki software is free software and anyone can download it or use it to create wikis. Access Denied – talk to me 22:26, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

There is no reason to 'stop' people from making their own wikis with MediaWiki- that's what it's for! -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

See more at wiki and MediaWiki. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Having trouble with an image in Wiki commons

I'm trying to display an image on the bio page for Harold Garfinkel. I uploaded a file (garfinkel2.tif) to the commons area, but what gets displayed is "225px". Is there a problem with the size of the image or is something else amiss? Pracktiker (talk) 22:07, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

November 8

How do I back up all Wikipedia to my hard drive?

You see, Wikipedia could go under. (For example, in the 2012 apocalypse.) However the site collapses, that's why we need to be able to back up the whole encyclopedia to our hard drives.

Also, it might give me something to read if I go on a mission with the Peace Corps for over 2 years, and I might not have Wireless Internet the whole time.

So how do we download the whole encyclopedia to our hard drives? How large is the size of the download? Thanks, --98.190.13.3 (talk) 01:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

See WP:Download. DMacks (talk) 01:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)See WP:DUMP Dismas|^(talk) 01:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

However, there is little point to downloading the entire encyclopaedia. Even excluding non-content pages such as those in the Wikipedia:, Talk:, User:, etc. spaces, the database dump is an estimated 27 gigabytes uncompressed (as of ca 2 months ago). Wikipedia probably will not go under anytime soon, and even if it does there are hundreds of mirrors and forks which hold complete copies of the database. You should also consider the bandwidth that you would consume to download the entire file - bandwidth that might be put to better use serving pages to online users. If you would like to read Wikipedia without Internet access, you might consider taking advantage of our recently-added Book: feature. (See also: Help:Books) Intelligentsium 02:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

How to change "government type" in the sidebar for a city?

I don't see an "edit" button for this. I changed an incorrect government type for a city in the "local government" text section, but can't find out how to do it in the quick facts-type sidebar. Thoughts? Thanks!

02:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letsplayfair (talk • contribs)

Click the "Edit" tab at top of the page. See also Help:Section#Editing before the first section. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:50, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letsplayfair (talk • contribs) 03:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete Wikipedia Search Engine...

I am using FireFox. After someone other than myself had used my computer, I noticed up in the right hand corner a box for the Wikipedia search engine. How do I delete that? Thanks!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.102.24.21 (talk) 02:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

The firefox logo there is probably a pulldown menu where you can select among various sites for the search function there. DMacks (talk) 02:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I think you mean the Wikipedia logo, DMacks. --ColinFine (talk) 00:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah yeah. I'm using some wacky custom search on my machine that is defaulting to a ffox logo right now. DMacks (talk) 03:00, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

problem with redirect, I think

I am D. Kimbrough Oller, that is, Kimoller as a user name. I have written a wikipedia article about a living scholar, very eminent, John L. Locke. It can be found under that name, well-documented I believe, by searching Wikipedia. But if I search Google under the same name and add Wikipedia to the search item, I find the site, but it is titled User:Kimoller/John L. Locke and when the page is opened it shows (Redirected from User:Kimoller/John L. Locke). HOW DO I GET GOOGLE or any other search engine to find the site without the REDIRECT FROM User:Kimoller? Please help YOu can also use my email account, <email removed> Kimoller (talk) 07:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I've nominated this redirect User:Kimoller/John L. Locke for deletion and hopefully, an administrator would be able to remove it for you. Minimac (talk) 07:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, as it says at the top of the page, we don't use email addresses here and you're advised not to post them here. Dismas|^(talk) 07:27, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Google will sort itself out when it gets round to re-indexing these pages. It may take a few days; until then, the redirect is doing a useful job, sending searchers from the old page address to the new one. (I have removed your email address to protect your privacy; this page is highly visible, and email addresses here are likely to become targets for spam) -- John of Reading (talk) 09:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

The article is well-written, but the only sources given are the scholar's own works. Have other people written about this person? Please see reliable sourcing and independent sourcing for advice. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding Community / Information Website about area

I have added a community website to a page on wikipedia (there are two already) and it keeps getting deleted. Unlike the other two there are no ads on this site nor is a profit making site like one of the others yet it keeps getting removed. Why? It contains useful information about the area —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camposolweb (talk • contribs) 11:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

The reason for the deletion can be seen in the history sheet for the page in question. (Just click on the "history" tab at the top of the page). You need to read WP:COI and also WP:U. David Biddulph (talk) 12:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism?

I was adding some information (episode names from he BBC website) to Apprentice UK Series 6, and was notified that I was vandalizing the page. The notice said that I had to cite references, but it seems silly to site references for episode names. Also the referencing is a bit confusing (just me I guess). All I'd like to do is get the episode names on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.136.201 (talk) 17:48, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

One of the principles of Wikipedia is verifiability. The reference you need is probably this, which is just one click away from the External Link that's already on the page, so I've reverted TT's edit. David Biddulph (talk) 18:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

New school slang words,what does this mean?

I have a 12 year old daughter who is having probs.in school,i told her if she needs 2 know anything 2 ask me,have looked on this site & in dictioary-no solutions,can someone answer my question,she got called either wren or rem or wrem & wants 2 know what it means,can anyone out there help me?She can't ask in school as it would cause more probs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.222.77 (talk) 18:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 18:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

entry creation

how do a make an entirely new entry/article? also can i put in pictures of the subject that i find on, for example, google images. if so, how do i do so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Futballer13 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

For creating a new article see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Article development; and you may wish to try the Article Wizard. For creating a new page in your userspace see How do I create a user subpage?; or use the Article Wizard, which has an option for that. As to pictures: images found through search engines are almost always going to be violations of copyright, and thus cannot be used here except under extremely limited circumstances. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

How can I undo or roll back?

I tried to translate Kamidia Radisti to Swedish, but did it on this English wp instead of the Swedih one. Now I managed to fix the Swedish one, but how I undo or roll back on the English wp? --Mats33 (talk) 22:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mats33. Undoing is limited to reverting a single revision, and can be unavailable because of intervening edits. What you needed to do here was revert to the last good version, which I have done. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Article text doesn't appear on edit text!

Hi, is someone able to fix the very beginning of Ender's Game (comics)? The "category: 2008 comic debuts" part doesn't appear in the actual edit text, and undoing to previous versions doesn't remove it. Sorry if this isn't the proper place for this. Kreachure (talk) 22:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. This just about had to be something going wrong with a template on the page so I checked the infobox and it is apparently supposed to place the page into [[category:YEAR comic debut]] when you add the year of debut to the |startyr= parameter. Obviously {{Infobox comic book title}} is not working quite right on that front.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:26, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the problem was that there was a restricted character in the page name (specifically, the single quote, ' ), which I have replaced. Intelligentsium 23:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

November 9

Help fighting the dispute on my page.

I created the page on General Michael D Healy. There is a NPOV dispute on my page and several if not all of my pictures were removed. I have adjusted the inconsistencies that were noted on the talk page but the dispute is still there. As for the pictures, they belong to my family. My husband is General Healy's grandson and namesake. I have every right to post the pictures and need help replacing them please. Please help me, this page means a lot to my family and to the General himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doodledorf (talk • contribs) 02:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I have not looked at the page, and am not intending to get involved in the dispute. But for me alarm bells ring when you say "this page means a lot to my family and to the General himself". I understand that you might have these feelings, but they have no place in Wikipedia, which is for recording information which has already been published elsewhere, and not a platform either for promotion or for celebration of anybody or anything. --ColinFine (talk) 09:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:OWN and understand that the article you started is not "your page" at all. Other users are quite entitled to edit it and to point out inconsistencies, and you have no special rights over the content. Having read the article I would say that it needs far more sources to support what is largely unsourced material, particularly since this is the biography of a living person. As for the images, copyright is a complicated area. Did you or someone in your family actually take them? You may have "every right" to upload them if you do hold the copyright, but you need to license and tag them appropriately, otherwise they cannot be accepted. Bear in mind that if you do own the copyright to these images and you upload them under an acceptable license, you are granting total strangers the right to reuse them provided they comply with the terms of the license. You need to be very careful about what license you select. There is more information at Wikipedia:Uploading images. Karenjc 20:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Vandal Recently Changed our Company's Wikipedia Page Repeatedly

Hello,

In this article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceTime_(software), about the software product called SpaceTime which is both patented and trademarked, the most recent editor of the article changed the trademark name of the article "SpaceTime" to " (also known as SpaceTime3D)" which is a way to confuse the public about the actual name of the software and its well deserved trademark. For some reason, each time in the edit review history that the name was changed to the actual product name of "SpaceTime" one of the editors changed it back again to " (also known as SpaceTime3D) "

You can view the actual issued mark here: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4002:9c0iub.2.1

In addition, the software application "SpaceTime" in an older revision said is a "three dimensional graphical user interface that allows end users to search their content such as Google, Google Images, Yahoo!, YouTube, eBay, Amazon and RSS. The 3D Search system allows end users to visually search through the actual web pages, videos, products, RSS or other items in a three dimensional visual stack." The current edit on the page is attempting to limit the scope of the actual working product by saying SpaceTime is a " 3D graphical user interface that displays web pages in a 3d tabbed stack." when in fact it displays a lot more than web pages such as images, videos, products, RSS and more in a 3D stack.

There have been several attempts to place the "patented" word in the Wikipedia description as you can validate from the proof of the actual issued patent: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=UHfRAAAAEBAJ&dq=bakhash

In addition, the last editor of the Wikipedia page decided to show the product in the worst light possible by referencing an unknown blogger with no respectable reputation as follows:

"The beta browser received mixed reviews. Rich Menga of PC Mech described how "thoroughly disgusted" he was with "any product that takes already-fast things that everyone does on the internet and tries to '3D-ize' them."[10] Jack M. Germain, of TechNewsWorld described how "SpaceTime delivers on its promise to save me time and provide a revolutionary online searching too" stating that "while I continue to use the 3-D searching environment, though, I am having more fun than I should at work."[7] Edward N. Albro of PCWorld gave the beta browser a 2.5/5 stating that while its "visual results can make searches easier", that "for basic browsing, SpaceTime has no appeal" and that the browser was too "buggy and slow for basic browsing".[11]"

When in fact, the world's most reputable technology reviewer and his team, Walter Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal gave the product rave reviews by saying: SpaceTime and "Visual Search can save time and turn searching into a fun process."

You can read The Wall Street Journal Article here: http://solution.allthingsd.com/20080326/testing-souped-up-search-functions/

We ask the good community of Wikipedia to stop this editor from desecrating the work of an honest hard working software team that brought a useful product to the technology community through a hard-earned patent, trademark and product.

We are wondering why the recent editor is changing the article in a negative light that does [not] represent the facts.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ez3d (talk • contribs) 02:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

When there is a dispute over content normally the first step in Wikipedia's Dispute resolution process is to discuss the matter with the other party, either on the article's talk page or directly on the other user's talk page. If you have not yet done this please do so. -- œ^™ 11:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

What we have is a misunderstanding. The editor (me) is not trying to portray the article in a negative light. Rather, I am trying to maintain a nuetral point of view. When the article reads "The beta browser received mixed reviews", this is not intended to malign the product, but rather to put forth the reception section in a balanced way. On Wikipedia, we use reliable sources to reference our statements. If you the source used in a citation is not reliable, then the statement and citation may be removed. We don't generally indicate whether software is patented/trademarked (for example see Windows XP), I've added it in as a note. I've also opened a thread at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#PC_Mech_and_TechNewsWorld to determine whether the sources I used were reliable. You may view the page's history here (or by clicking the view history tab of the article]. You may view the article's talk page at Talk:SpaceTime_(software) (or by hitting the Discussion tab). I've worked with User:Mabdul to expand several other browser articles including Cello (web browser), Arena (web browser), and others. I hope you don't view my edits as vandalism following this explanation. If you have any further questions, please feel free to post them here, to the article's talk page at Talk:SpaceTime_(software) or at my talk page at User talk:Smallman12q. Smallman12q (talk) 02:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Images

I'm really confused on adding images of album and single covers. I've seen dozens of covers use the "This image is of a cover of an audio recording" for their fair-use rationale and nothing happens to them. But then every once in a while a cover using that will be tagged. Why is this? Why can one be on the site for close to five years and be fine but then one gets added this year and gets tagged? --Shadow (talk) 06:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

The image file page needs BOTH a copyright notice AND a fair-use rationale. If you don't have both, then the file can be tagged for deletion. The answer to how something which needs to be deleted but doesn't get deleted for five years is that no one noticed for five years. Wikipedia is a big place, and every once in a while, something gets lost. --Jayron32 06:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

moving an artical from he.wikipedia.org to en.wikipedia.org

Shalom

I want to move the artical about the sculptress-artist Zahra Rubin from he.wikipedia.org to en.wikipedia.org.

Although I was in charge of publishing the Hebrew version it turn to be impossible for me to do it withut the help of several veterans that volunteers to help me.

I found that it will be very difficult for me to issue the English version, by myself, although I have all the needed texts in English.

Where should I turn to ask for help of that sort?

Eagerly anticipating for responses to my question

Dani

P.S. To see the Hebrew version you can can copy and paste the folowing URL: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/זהרה_רובין —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubindani (talk • contribs) 09:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry I can't be of more direct assistance in this regard as I'm inexperienced in transwiki areas, but I can direct you to some help pages that may help guide you.. Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Translating from other language Wikimedia Projects is important to read first to learn about attribution, because it looks like that Hebrew article has other contributors. Help:Import describes the process of importing text from other Wikipedias but I believe you need to have the Importer flag. Wikipedia:Translation has other resources and links that may be of use to you. Hope this helps in some way. -- œ^™ 10:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

First - THX, THX a LOT!

I still feel & think that I need some one that will "take my hand" and admit me in and guide till through the sand box and to the the first public page. So - still waiting

D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubindani (talk • contribs) 16:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I imported the English translation of the Hebrew artical a.m. at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahara_Rubin

Can anyone help me to arrange it to have a "decent looking" similar to the Hebrew artical? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubindani (talk • contribs) 13:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I will take a look at it in a moment. – ukexpat (talk) 13:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

 Done. I have edited the article to comply with the manual of style for biographies. A couple of points: you will have to find some more references to support notability, hence the tag at the top, and some of the arty-farty claptrap in the second career paragraph will have to be edited to be more encyclopedic (or removed). I also removed some material completely and copied it to the article's talk page in case someone else finds it useful. – ukexpat (talk) 14:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Fallout Characters page

Is there a page with a list of the characters from the fallout series. I'm looking to make one if there isn't however I want to make sure there isn't one before I do. --MagnusWolfEikrem (talk) 09:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 -- œ^™ 10:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why you're being sent to the Reference Desk since your question seems to deal specifically with Wikipedia. Anyway, there doesn't seem to be a list of characters article linked from Category:Fallout series or the template {{Fallout series}}. Dismas|^(talk) 11:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I was always under the impression that the Reference desk, in addition to answering general knowledge questions, aids readers in finding information on Wikipedia, such as certain articles and lists. -- œ^™ 11:32, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

We do that there, yes. But the addition of the willingness of this editor to create an article if one doesn't exist seems more of a help desk issue to me. Dismas|^(talk) 11:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, of course you're right. This user's question is just as valid here as on the reference desk. I could've been more helpful instead of jumping the gun and templating. My apologies to you MagnusWolfEikrem. -- œ^™ 11:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

And I believe we've been remiss in not pointing out Wikipedia:Your first article to Magnus. Dismas|^(talk) 13:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

He should also read WP:Stand-alone lists. --ColinFine (talk) 18:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

The Missing manual - Chapter 2 - broken link

In the Advanced Citations Techniques, Automated Citation Tools section, there is a link to http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ms609/Wiki/Scholar that returns a 404. Is this a broken link? Thanks. Mark^Dask 12:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

It certainly seems to be! At Wikipedia:Citation tools there is a description of a similar tool, so I will shortly be updating the 'Missing Manual' page. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks John. Mark^Dask 14:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Proceed from work-in-progress to Live

I have completed my article in a Work-in-Progress environment, but I would now like to place it on Wikipedia live. I do not seem to be able to find the Step PLan showing me what to do next. What are the simple steps I should follow? Can I proceed to Live from my work-in-progress environment? I have only been a registered user for about 2 days.DrSchaub (talk) 13:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC) Regards DrSchaub

The process would be to WP:MOVE the page. Your account is too new to perform this, so I will do it for you... Dismas|^(talk) 13:11, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

WP:SYMUD is a useful read. – ukexpat (talk) 14:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Hearing Aids Page

I keep adding a link to our website buyahearingaid.com which is completely unbiased collection of unique articles and the most updated and complete database of hearing aid brands and models. And then it is being removed. Please let us know why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phdimov (talk • contribs) 15:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

The link was removed by User:Orangemike and he left a message on your talk page about it. His reasoning has to do with our guidelines about the use of external links. The best way to get clarification as to what Orangemike feels is wrong with the link is to ask him. If you'd like, look over the guidelines as well to familiarize yourself with possible reasons why. Dismas|^(talk) 16:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

In particular, please note the wording of the section WP:EL#ADV: "... you should avoid linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent—even if WP guidelines seem to imply that it may otherwise be linked. When in doubt, you may go to the talk page and let another editor decide." Karenjc 19:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Broken Link

What should one do when a broken link is discovered? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.191.97.2 (talk) 16:52, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Assuming you're referring to external links, first thing is to try to repair the link by searching for another copy of the page on some other website by googling the url, or checking the Internet Archive at http://www.archive.org for an archived copy. If you cannot repair it you should tag the link with the {{dead link}} template. It is important that you do not delete the link, especially if it's being used for a reference. Read Wikipedia:Link rot for more information. -- œ^™ 17:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

cannonball

I have an iron cannonball that does not apparently apply to the cannons used during the American Civil War. I did some research on your info site and found a gun chart that reflects a size of ball that better describes a bore, diameter, and weight that seems a better fit for the cannonall. The "Minion" cannon seems to be a fit. My question: Is there a way to verify a British made cannonball (3"dia./ 3lb/10.8oz)located in an old farmhouse in Georgia,USA, and is that a real possibility?. It was very rusty when found,of course.

Any feedback or info appreciated74.190.113.145 (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 TNXMan 19:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

article content error

There was an article on the Peppermill Casino in Reno, Nevada written and posted in Wikipedia and the content is not totally correct as to how it began, owners and money to start the business... How do you post another rendition as to who started the casino and the real story?? Will it be posted by the orginal story or some other place? Bkchristy (talk) 19:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome to edit Wikipedia, but all information you add must be supported by reliable sources or it is likely to be removed. Has the story of the casino's origin been published somewhere reliable, and can you cite that reference? If so, feel free to change the wording of the article, remembering to source your edit and to keep your contribution neutral and factual. (Please don't just add an alternative version to the existing story - Wikipedia is intended to be a collection of verifiable facts, not of conflicting opinions.) If your version has not been published anywhere and is only based on hearsay or personal experience, then it is no more reliable than the current version (which is also unsourced), and adding it would not improve the article. Your best bet in that case would be to seek sources for the information, and to discuss your proposed changes on the article's talk page in an effort to reach consensus on the best wording. Karenjc 19:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

How to remove an alert

How does one remove an alert once it is out of date. For example, after adding verifiable sources to an article, how does one remove an alert saying that there are no sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradjersak (talk • contribs) 21:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

You do it in the normal way, by editing the text of the article. The alerts are usually right at the top. You may find something like {{BLP unsourced|date=October 2010}} or perhaps a {{Multiple issues}} alert listing several problems and their dates. When you remove the alert, remember to give a clear edit summary, and do not mark the edit as minor. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:29, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia image vs. Commons image

I've encountered a problem which I suspect has come up in the past, but after searching the Help namespace both here & on commons, I failed to find the answer. I want to embed this image from commons into the article Eon of Axum, however if I take the usual steps, I instead get this fair-use image from Wikipedia. Is there a way to specify the commons file, or do I need to have the Wikipedia file renamed? -- llywrch (talk) 21:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know the only solution is to have one of the images renamed. – ukexpat (talk) 21:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I've moved the local image (suppressing the redirect). You should have clear sailing now. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

Thanks! Image added. -- llywrch (talk) 17:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

November 10

Length of a string

How to know the length of a string of characters (I need it for a template on wp)? {{#len:string}} doesn't work! Thank you very much.--DrFO.Jr.Tn (talk) 00:44, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

We have a string manipulation template {{str len}}, but it is really something of a hack: it only supports strings up to 500 characters long, it is rather expensive, and it is not always reliable. Intelligentsium 01:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Just a thought

Hello,

I've been looking around a bit about this but no luck so far.

My question is if there is a way to tell what was the last edited part of an article? I know it says the date in which it was at the bottom of the page, but sometimes people might like to see what part(s) were changed. If there isn't I would like to see a simple way of doing so implemented perhaps. Maybe a link at the bottom that reloads the page with the most recent change(s) highlighted if possible?

Thank you for any response you might have,

R.K—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.196.220 (talk) 01:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Click the "view history" tab, then click the "compare selected revisions" button; you can also use {{diff|<!-- PUT THE PAGENAME HERE -->|cur}} to generate a link. ǝɥʇM0N0 01:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

See more at Help:Page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Payment of matured policyJeewan suraksha

The Policy has already matured but no intimation regarding the payment, ≈122.252.246.234 (talk) 07:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC) Surendra JohriMoradabad

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25

(I have removed the policy number from your post to protect your privacy) -- John of Reading (talk) 07:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Little red x top right of edit box

I tried to import a photo from commons, correct markup, and the red x buton appears - why please? Mark^Dask 10:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Please tell us what photo you are referring to (you can place a link to an image using a colon inside the linking brackets like so: [[:File:name.jpg]]) and what you mean by "import". In fact, tell us everything that might be relevant about what you tried or attempted: where did you try to add it, what markup you used and so on. Commons photos can be used directly in Wikipedia articles, with normal image markup without being imported in any way. We recently had a sitewide problem with many images not displaying and it's possible you attempted to use an image during that span of time. Anyway, it's difficult to answer your question in the hypothetical.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

the article is Yanomamo Women - on that page I have inserted a test image, from commons, but the one I want is either Yanomani.jpg or Jacekpalkiewicz3.jpeg - neither works - if u go to page you can see for yourself. Thanks. Mark^Dask 11:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

When you use images you must use the exact name in all respects, and the best way to ensure this is by going to the image page, highlighting its name and then using your computer's copy function (ctrl+c) and then pasting the image name where you want to use it (ctrl+v). If you try to use File:Jacekpalkiewicz3.jpeg it will not work because the image is titled File:JacekPalkiewicz3.jpg; if you try to use Yanomani.jpg it will not work because there is no image by that name either here or at Commons. Maybe you mean File:Indio Yanomami.jpg?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Oops - I wasn't using capitals - sorry about that, and thanks for the Ctrl tip. Mark^Dask 11:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Reviewing

My mini-biography on Isaac Seligman has been placed on line but apparently needs someone to review it. No idea how to organise that so could you put out an APB to all avid reviewers requesting a review of my biography? Many thanks.213.10.136.135 (talk) 11:19, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi I've got time in the next few days to take a look - I will contact you on your talk page if I have any questions okay? Mark^Dask 11:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding a one-line comment to a keyword in a Wikipedia page

Whilst researching a particular topic in Wikipedia, I believe that I can add some insight into the origin of a title (pronoun) relating to a rock band. Could you kindly advise me (or provide me with a link to a an instructional webpage within Wikipedia) so that can add a one-line comment to that article. I do not want to attach a full-page article or any other attachments but wish to allow other users access to my "comment" by clicking on the key word Spongorfungus (talk) 17:29, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit the article (click the edit tab) to add your text, then follow it with a reference in the following form: <ref>text of reference goes here</ref>. You can also use one of the appropriate citation templates referred to at WP:CITE. – ukexpat (talk) 17:36, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Note, however, that this has to be from an actual published reliable source; so if your "insight" is personal knowledge or mere speculation, then it has no place in the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

John L. Locke article

Dear Help I have added reliable third party refs (articles and books citing and clearly influenced by Locke) and to an article and two books by a key collaborator of Locke.

What is the process for removal of the header on the article that is there at the moment? (It says "This article needs references that appear in reliable third-party publications...")

Can you do that? Thanks, D. Kimbrough Oller —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimoller (talk • contribs) 18:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

 Done – ukexpat (talk) 19:38, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Kitchen

L AM WORKING IN A PROFFESSIONAL KITCHEN AND WANT TO KNOW IF L HAVE TO WEAR A UNIFORM BY LAW AS THEY SAID THEY WOULD SURPLY ME WITH ONE NOW THEY SAID L SHOULD JUST WEAR MY OWN CASUAL CLOTHES HOW DOES THAT STAND WITH HEALTH AND HYGIEN PLEASE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.234.23 (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia with green theme for ENGINEERING articles

Sir..... Previously I found articles in Wikipedia separately for engineering...the main difference is the outline i general wikipedia, surroundings are bluish and in few engineering articles esp from engineering books, outline is little green in color..how can I get those pages <blanked> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghavsairam (talk • contribs) 19:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you saw the green outline in Wikipedia? Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia and normally uses the same background for all articles. It is one of many wikis with articles about engineering. Several of them use the same MediaWiki software as Wikipedia and have many design similarities. The Google search engineering wiki shows some of them. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Two articles about the same subject

These two articles Domestic rabbit and House rabbit are about exactly the same subject. IMHO such a situation is totally unacceptable. Does a mechanism to force a compulsory merge exist? Roger (talk) 21:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not convinced; I think Domestic rabbit covers a much wider subject than House rabbit. You could begin a discussion, though - see Help:Merging for guidance on this. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Electronic Bagpipes Page

Dear Sir/Madam

Last year we provided information on new technology being used in the electronic bagpipe field by the company vPipes. We stated that vPipes was the only electronic bagpipe to use capacitive continual sensor technology being careful not to make an 'advertisement' out of the information provided. We realised that our contribution had been deleted by the page-owner although they have maintained the names and brands of other electronic bagpipes. We deem this completely unfair and a disservice to users of Wikipedia as the information provided on the current page 'Electronic Bagpipes' is incomplete now that vPipes, amongst other makes, no longer appears. We do not understand how a Wikipage can be so biased excluding information provided in good faith.

We would appreciate understanding why this situation has arisen and how it can be corrected.

Regards

85.53.138.178 (talk) 22:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)