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Ark Linux

Ark Linux (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

I am nominating several articles for linux distributions. The articles have been tagged with the need for references for over six months and none have turned up. All of the distributions tagged have notability issues due to lack of third party coverage. Wikipedia is not a directory of linux distributions.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 15:26, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note I have withdrawn from this list Sidux and OpenSuse due to new sources. I still feel that KnoppMyth is only notable for MythTV which already has an article.
Formatting I have moved some of the multiple bold keeps to their own sections under headings for those users, as many of them were unsigned and I want to eliminate confusion as to how many individual editors are discussing the AfD.
   The following articles are also included in this debate:
   ALT Linux (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
   Annvix (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
   Caixa Mágica (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
   KnoppMyth (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
   VectorLinux (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
   PLD Linux Distribution (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)


I thought all of the Vector sources were first party sites, press releases and directory listings. Did I misread them?--Torchwood Who? (talk) 19:52, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • BTW, we don't generally delete articles for being unsourced. We delete them for being non-notable. Not having sources in an article does not mean the sources do not exist. It's a subtle, but important point. If a piece of software has been the subject of multiple independent published works (such as reviews), then it is notable, even if the article doesn't reference those works. It's our job to fix such arcitles. -- Mark Chovain 22:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you could place those new references in the myth article, it's currently very lacking in third party sources and my searches didn't bring much up.Both of those are good references.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If I'm going to put them in, I'd rather incorporate them properly, so it will need to wait a bit (busy at work at the moment). It's not all that important to an AfD that the references actually be in there (the topics need to be notable, but that notability need not be established in the article). BTW, for reference, I googled "knoppmyth review" to pull those up. -- Mark Chovain 22:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that unsourced does not mean not notable, but sourced doesn't mean notable. It runs both ways.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 22:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Forgot to mention that VectorLinux is 21st on DistroWatch, with 328 hits per day from DistroWatch site only.---AM088 (talk) 19:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


FROM USER 85.182.18.211


  • Keep KnoppMyth a well known linux distribution, maybe article needs cleanup, but no reason for deletion
  • Keep KnoppMyth a well known linux distribution, maybe article needs cleanup, but no reason for deletion
  • Keep PLD Linux Distribution Article is not great, but no reason for removal, because subject is important enough - at least in poland
  • Keep Annvix an active linux distribution dont need to be thrown away
  • Keep sidux looks good - seems as if the article was revised. Must have many users.
  • Keep ALT Linux based mainly in russia, but there is no more cold war - so dont delete!

User:85.182.18.211(contribs) has made no other edits outside this AfD.


FROM USER 80.108.89.38


  • Keep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=sidux While sources are important and needed (and have been added recently), the lack of external sources is not the single objective for non-notability (which would be the sole reason for deleting an article). Most AfD people do a very fine and important job thanks for doing this nasty work, but please stick to a topic where you have serious personal competence in order to be able to decide on non-notability. slam 08:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Ark Linux, KnoppMyth and VectorLinux - those are well known, established Linux distributions with a global user base and notability since several years. slam 08:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

User:80.108.89.38(contribs) has made few edits outside this AfD.


DISCUSSION ABOUT WITHDRAWN ARTICLES


I removed openSuse from the AfD, sorry about that. No one ever removed the references needed template from last year.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 18:31, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all. Lacking sources is funny as a reason: you don't believe that they exist? But all the information about distributions of free software is perfectly verifiable: download the binaries and check that it works, download the source code and check how it works! Notability, well, I know and consider them notable: Ark Linux, ALT Linux, PLD Linux Distribution (and OpenSUSE, but that's not discussed anymore already).
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