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Zahediyeh

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The article provides no verifiable sources. The only citation is to Geni.com, which is a user-generated, non-reliable genealogy website and does not meet Wikipedia’s reliable source criteria (WP:RS, WP:USERG). The content contains unverifiable genealogical claims and lacks independent, secondary sources. This topic does not meet notability guidelines for organizations or religious orders (WP:ORG, WP:N). Therefore, deletion is proposed under WP:A7 (no indication of significance) / WP:V (unsourced content). Khaatir (talk) 13:26, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Khaatir (talk) 13:26, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:40, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The subject Zahediyeh (the Sufi order of Sheikh Zahed Gilani) is historically notable and covered in reliable academic literature. However, this nomination concerns the current article's state, which lacks verifiable sources and does not meet WP:V or WP:RS. The deletion request is therefore based on the present content, not the notability of the broader topic. Khaatir (talk) 13:52, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:36, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The Historical Dictionary of Iran provides a succinct overview of the significance of this group in the 14th century in the context of the Safavid dynasty. Google books appears to have more coverage in English (such as the Concise History of Islam and The Clergy and the Modern Middle East: Shi'i Political Activism in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon), but given the topic area, the best materials are likely in Arabic. Note that 21st century histories are citing this group as influential 700 years in the past so this is clearly a notable topic. Passes WP:GNG. Note that citing WP:ORG in this context seems ridiculous. That policy was written to address contemporary organizations, not medieval history. 4meter4 (talk) 01:50, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the Zahediyeh Sufi order (ṭarīqa) is historically notable and well-attested in reliable academic literature, including sources like the Historical Dictionary of Iran. My nomination concerns only the current article version, which does not cite any of those sources and relies solely on a user-generated genealogy website. My reference to WP:ORG was not to imply a contemporary organization, but simply to point out that the article, as written, does not demonstrate notability or verifiability per WP:V and WP:GNG. If the existing scholarly sources are properly added and the article rewritten accordingly, I would be happy to withdraw my deletion nomination. Khaatir (talk) 02:26, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That’s not how notability evaluation works. See WP:NEXIST. The existence of sources is all that needs to be shown here at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 03:53, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]