Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Dronebogus/Userboxes/NoTankies

User:Dronebogus/Userboxes/NoTankies

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Salvio giuliano

06:13, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:UBDIVISIVE; divisive userboxes are not wanted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:53, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The box's creator has pointed out that they are under an ban on participating in XFD discussions. In fairness, please see their comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:16, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Dronebogus' talk page response. I'm usually against "divisive" userboxes, but this one is perfectly acceptable, and not much worse, than, say, {{User stop autocracy}}, {{User:FormalDude/Userboxes/ETR}}, or {{User:Pitsarotta/Userboxes/Anti-Stalin}}. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 19:11, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete. I'm not much into policing userspace, but a userbox reading "This user doesn't like (pejorative term for people with certain beliefs)" is pretty much a textbook example of the type of divisive wording we've chosen to not allow in userboxes. I note the user has said on their userpage that they didn't think this particular point of view would be that controversial, and I agree most of us would agree with it. But we can't let "it's the majority view" excuse divisive *wording*. Though it might be considered more staid and boring, the same point could be made less divisively by expressing support (or opposition to) a worldview rather than dislike for certain people. Martinp (talk) 12:00, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Martinp: Are you against a userbox expressing disdain for Fascists? jp×g 🗯️ 01:48, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am against userboxes that are divisive (people against people) and use pejorative labels to boot. That includes situations where I might endorse the underlying opinion. Specifically, I would not be against a userbox saying "This user is against authoritative communism" or even "This user thinks we need to be vigilant against authoritative communists". Martinp (talk) 10:37, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Dronebogus' talk page response and Cremastra. I myself have this userbox on my user page, and I don't see anything controversial or problematic about stating opposition to tankies and what they stand for. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 10:07, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I don't think this is any different from userboxes that say they don't like fascists. It may be divisive to some, but I think saying you don't like authoritarian communist regimes and their supporters is similar to saying you don't like authoritarian fascist regimes and their supporters. BootsED (talk) 22:11, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Even without touching on the fact that the term itself is derogatory and therefore problematic for use on personal pages, its formulation itself is very vague and ambiguous, which is why, returning to the nature of derogatory political labels, anyone can understand it as a hidden attack on left-wing participants. Do you remember any "propaganda of totalitarian regimes on Wikipedia"? Was it really a disguised attack on users who argued against anti-Soviet or anti-socialist narratives in any articles? If this userbox is considered acceptable, does that mean other users will also be able to create derogatory userboxes like "this user is against woke propaganda on Wikipedia" or "this user is against neo-Marxist propaganda on Wikipedia"? Even a superficial study yields too many uncomfortable questions. I am against any things that could potentially create tension or antagonism among users. Solaire the knight (talk) 22:37, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you think that being anti-Stalin is indistinguishable from being a Democrat, then you are completely off your rocker. I feel like e.g. Holodomor denial is pretty clearly morally reprehensible, and if you cannot understand the difference between that and being vaguely left-leaning, there is a competence issue. jp×g 🗯️ 22:47, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It can be modified, but it is too inflammatory or divisive at the moment. The Knowledge Pirate (talk) 22:59, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Salvio giuliano

06:13, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete "Tankie" is a pejorative term for a group of people with certain political beliefs, one which is common in toxic online discourse. There's nothing wrong with expressing an ideological position, but labeling people as "tankies" is not the kind of discourse we want on Wikipedia. Day Creature (talk) 07:56, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am admittedly a bit stricter on my interpretation of the userbox guidelines than some, but this seems too divisive for my liking. Userboxes expressing opposition to political groups using derogatory terms are a bad idea, and I agree with Solaire's arguments as well. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:11, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. By strict construction of policy as written, then yes, an anti-Stalinite userbox is divisive, as well as an anti-Hitlerite userbox, but by the basic principle of common sense, I would bet fifty dollars against ten that an anti-Hitlerite userbox would be kept at MfD, which would make the selective deletion of this one in particular an asinine and grotesque mockery of the project. jp×g 🗯️ 22:35, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]