Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests
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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
- Please make sure you really need technical assistance before making a request here. In particular, if the target page is a redirect back to the source page that has only one revision, you can usually move the page normally.
- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
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the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- Draft:NXT Gen Cup (currently a redirect to NXT Gen Cup) → NXT Gen Cup (move · discuss) – The page about the series was created, which is a lot more specific and about the topic than a subpage on the Electric motorsport article Maceekim (talk) 18:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- List of tallest buildings and structures in Auckland (currently a redirect to List of tallest buildings in Auckland) → List of tallest buildings in Auckland (move · discuss) – duplicate pages with the same content but the latter page is more up-to-date, better formatted and has more info. Following naming scheme of other NZ tallest buildings articles like Wellington and Christchurch, as well as other tallest building articles in general for which only one non-inhabitable structure is listed. LivinAWestLife (talk) 18:17, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- WP:BLAR'd requester's WP:FORK and copied the text with attribution (link to WP:CWW for requester's convenience) back to the longstanding title to consolidate history. I have no opinion on the list title itself. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Multiple districts paradox (currently a redirect to Consistency criterion) → Consistency criterion (move) – requested move; see Talk:Non-negative responsiveness#Requested move 16 April 2025 Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- New York Cosmos (1970–1985) (currently a redirect to New York Cosmos (1971–1985)) → New York Cosmos (1971–1985) (move · discuss) – Per the consensus at Special:PermanentLink/1301666057#Requested_move_14_July_2025 TarnishedPathtalk 02:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- List of New York Cosmos (1970–1985) seasons (currently a redirect to List of New York Cosmos (1971–1985) seasons) → List of New York Cosmos (1971–1985) seasons (move · discuss) – Per the consensus at Special:PermanentLink/1301666057#Requested_move_14_July_2025 TarnishedPathtalk 02:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- New York Cosmos (2010) (currently a redirect to New York Cosmos (2013–2020)) → New York Cosmos (2013–2020) (move · discuss) – Per the consensus at Special:PermanentLink/1301666057#Requested_move_14_July_2025 TarnishedPathtalk 02:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- New York Cosmos (2025) (currently a redirect to New York Cosmos (2026)) → New York Cosmos (2026) (move · discuss) – Per the consensus at Special:PermanentLink/1301666057#Requested_move_14_July_2025 TarnishedPathtalk 02:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- BRI research institute is invalid. Must create BRI research institute before requesting that it be moved to BRI Research Institute.– WP:NCCAPS. 2A02:C7C:4D0A:A500:ADCD:29BF:C31A:B59D (talk) 05:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
Contested technical requests
- Menelik II's conquests → Agar Maqnat (currently a redirect back to Menelik II's conquests) (move · discuss) – "Agar Maqnat" is a used term to describe this period in reliable academic sources[1][2] including Encyclopaedia Aethiopica while "Menelik II's conquests" comes up with no mentions in any scholarly literature. I was the creator of this article, and I gave it the name "Menelik's Expansions" some 3 years ago because I did not know that there was a specific term for this period in Ethiopian history. Socialwave597 (talk) 15:30, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Socialwave597 Based on the previous RM that was closed due to sock activity, I am going to recommend another discussion as that is also what the closer recommended at that time. Multiple editors have also appeared to disagree over the title, so a BOLD move would likely be reverted. ASUKITE 15:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean "another discussion"? Pretty frustrating that this RM was derailed because of some sock from a very long time ago. Socialwave597 (talk) 04:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Magherbin @Srnec, I see both of you have changed the title around a year ago, since @Asukite believes there is a possibility that this RM would get reverted, would you two have any objections to this being the name of the article? Socialwave597 (talk) 00:16, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- It should remain with the English term Magherbin (talk) 01:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Go thru RM. Needs to be explored more fully. Srnec (talk) 02:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Socialwave597 Based on the previous RM that was closed due to sock activity, I am going to recommend another discussion as that is also what the closer recommended at that time. Multiple editors have also appeared to disagree over the title, so a BOLD move would likely be reverted. ASUKITE 15:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Saurashtra script → Sourashtra script (currently a redirect back to Saurashtra script) (move · discuss) – As a native speaker of this language, I can confirm that this is the primary spelling of this language and script. This also aligns the page with the other Sourashtra pages. Ethnologue entry for evidence: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/saz/ Elviajero (talk) 18:22, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Elviajero based on the recent message at Talk:Saurashtra script, I am going to recommend a discussion as it appears somebody disagreed with the spelling, meaning a move here will simply get reverted. We are only here to process uncontroversial moves, we cannot settle disputes. ASUKITE 15:45, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy linking contesting of related move (permalink). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 20:16, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Elviajero based on the recent message at Talk:Saurashtra script, I am going to recommend a discussion as it appears somebody disagreed with the spelling, meaning a move here will simply get reverted. We are only here to process uncontroversial moves, we cannot settle disputes. ASUKITE 15:45, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Draft:The Fantastic Four: First Steps (soundtrack) → The Fantastic Four: First Steps (soundtrack) (move · discuss) – The soundtrack releases tomorrow KingArti (talk) 18:21, 17 July 2025 (UTC) KingArti (talk) 18:21, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @KingArti: Hey there! I took a look at your draft and noticed that around 51% of the content appears to be a copyright violation — sourced from this forum page. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to fully access the site due to a block on my end, but I’ve already requested a CV-deletion for the affected version.
- Once you’ve made the necessary changes, please consider resubmitting your draft through Articles for Creation. I’ll make sure to review it promptly once it’s submitted. Thanks! — --Warm Regards, Abhimanyu7 talk 06:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Abhiimanyu7: This was not a copyright violation of that forum post, which was explicitly quoting what "wikipedia said" and therefore is not the original author. Rather, this was copied from The Fantastic Four: First Steps#Music and should have simply been given attribution in a dummy edit per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. @Nthep: I believe this revdel should be reversed.
- @KingArti: You should have just posted your new version of the article again at The Fantastic Four: First Steps (soundtrack) rather than posting a new draft and immediately asking for it to be moved onto the previous one. In any event, you must give attribution when copying content from one article to another. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 16:42, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @SilverLocust revdel undone. Nthep (talk) 16:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- can we publish it now ? KingArti (talk) 11:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @SilverLocust revdel undone. Nthep (talk) 16:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Abhiimanyu7: This was not a copyright violation of that forum post, which was explicitly quoting what "wikipedia said" and therefore is not the original author. Rather, this was copied from The Fantastic Four: First Steps#Music and should have simply been given attribution in a dummy edit per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. @Nthep: I believe this revdel should be reversed.
- List of Tiny Desk Concerts (currently a redirect to Tiny Desk Concerts) → Tiny Desk Concerts (move · discuss) – Shorter and more accurate title–this is an article with multiple sections before the list. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 03:03, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Myceteae The opposite of this move was performed in 2022 [3], so this should go through an RM. Toadspike [Talk] 10:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Toadspike: sorry I made this move before seeing it was contested. Why does the 2022 move stop us moving it again now, back to the original title? If it's contested for a substantive reason then we can revisit, but this doesn't look controversial to me. If it's a proper name it full caps then it doesn't seem like having "List of" is appropriate, as well as the reasons Myceteae gives above. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 11:00, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Amakuru The rationale for the 2022 move was exactly the opposite of the rationale of this request ("The article was already a list with an intro" from @Fred Gandt). When two editors come to radically different conclusions based on the same facts, I think the move is not uncontroversial and a discussion is warranted. However, I have no preference on the title here and I certainly don't intend to die on this hill. Toadspike [Talk] 11:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Toadspike @Amakuru I didn't see this move history, only the history that made Tiny Desk Concert a redirect, and I did not see {{R from former name}}. I did look on talk and saw no history of discussion about the name. I thought I had done my due diligence and that this was a no-brainer, but I missed this. Let me know if I need to take any action. No objection to an editor who disagrees with the move reverting or starting an RM. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 15:36, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Amakuru The rationale for the 2022 move was exactly the opposite of the rationale of this request ("The article was already a list with an intro" from @Fred Gandt). When two editors come to radically different conclusions based on the same facts, I think the move is not uncontroversial and a discussion is warranted. However, I have no preference on the title here and I certainly don't intend to die on this hill. Toadspike [Talk] 11:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Toadspike: sorry I made this move before seeing it was contested. Why does the 2022 move stop us moving it again now, back to the original title? If it's contested for a substantive reason then we can revisit, but this doesn't look controversial to me. If it's a proper name it full caps then it doesn't seem like having "List of" is appropriate, as well as the reasons Myceteae gives above. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 11:00, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Split Both the series and the list appear to meet WP:GNG. The article as it reads today is confusing and messy, and I believe splitting would make for a better result. 162 etc. (talk) 01:13, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't have strong feelings here but I don't think this is necessary. The article body needs to be cleaned up whether it remains an article, an intro to the list, or is split. The list portions are nicely organized and splitting them won't improve the article portion. The list is the strongest part of the article and splitting it off seems a shame so I guess I'm weak oppose but I acknowledge that's not a very strong argument. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 02:33, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Myceteae The opposite of this move was performed in 2022 [3], so this should go through an RM. Toadspike [Talk] 10:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Iao Valley → ʻĪao Valley (currently a redirect back to Iao Valley) (move · discuss) – local orthography per mos hawaii — kwami (talk) 11:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keahole Point → Keāhole Point (currently a redirect back to Keahole Point) (move · discuss) – local orthography per mos hawaii — kwami (talk) 11:05, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- House of Keoua → House of Keōua (currently a redirect back to House of Keoua) (move · discuss) – local orthography per mos hawaii — kwami (talk) 11:12, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nahienaena → Nāhiʻenaʻena (currently a redirect back to Nahienaena) (move · discuss) – local orthography per mos hawaii — kwami (talk) 11:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Kwamikagami: As I just mentioned on your talk page, these are controversial and need to be discussed. There have been previous RMs about Hawaiian names and other foreign names that use diacritics. Station1 (talk) 12:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- How is following MOS:HAWAII considered controversial? Also, you keep saying that it’s controversial, but you never explain why it’s controversial.
- Wikipedian Talk to me! or not… 22:05, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I had the same question. MOS:HAWAII has been adopted and was affirmed in the recent RM at Talk:Hawaiʻi (island) involving multiple pages. Cleaning up titles to align with the current MOS should not be controversial, unless an argument has been presented that a particular page warrants exception. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Move this and the other Hawaiian language pages per MOS:HAWAII, not a controversial move. PersusjCP (talk) 23:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I thought it was clear enough why these are controversial by writing "There have been previous RMs about Hawaiian names..." For example, Iao Valley was subject to a previous RM that moved it to that title. Years later, Kwamikagami moved it without discussion and was immediately reverted by another editor. Usually that is enough to disallow contested requests, especially when they are by the same editor who was previously reverted. There have been other RMs as well, for instance at Hawaii, Oahu (twice, with at least 7 editors opposing a move), Lihue, Hawaii, Kawaihae, Hawaii, and others, not to mention in-depth discussions at articles like Zurich and Cancun and Ho Chi Minh. MOS:HAWAII itself acknowledges that "Article titles can be contentious", or at least it did before Kwamikagami recently removed that sentence. It's fine to prefer Hawaiian names to English names in a discussion, but there are quite a few editors who will point to policy at WP:COMMONNAME and WP:ENGLISHTITLE over local guidelines at MOS. Station1 (talk) 02:23, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- those old reverts were done under the previous guideline, and the current guideline, which is consistent with COMMONNAME and ENGLISHTITLE, was written precisel to deal with this. in the half a year between when most of the hawaiian geography articles were moved and the recent rm for the main islands, there was not a single complaint about following local orthography. since then, you're the only one to object. — kwami (talk) 03:36, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am reasonably certain that if you had used the WP:RM process you would have found others. If many other editors used English titles for many years, and you are the only editor who edited the MOS and moved articles in the past half year, there's a reasonable possibility that consensus is not with you. Station1 (talk) 03:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- those old reverts were done under the previous guideline, and the current guideline, which is consistent with COMMONNAME and ENGLISHTITLE, was written precisel to deal with this. in the half a year between when most of the hawaiian geography articles were moved and the recent rm for the main islands, there was not a single complaint about following local orthography. since then, you're the only one to object. — kwami (talk) 03:36, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I thought it was clear enough why these are controversial by writing "There have been previous RMs about Hawaiian names..." For example, Iao Valley was subject to a previous RM that moved it to that title. Years later, Kwamikagami moved it without discussion and was immediately reverted by another editor. Usually that is enough to disallow contested requests, especially when they are by the same editor who was previously reverted. There have been other RMs as well, for instance at Hawaii, Oahu (twice, with at least 7 editors opposing a move), Lihue, Hawaii, Kawaihae, Hawaii, and others, not to mention in-depth discussions at articles like Zurich and Cancun and Ho Chi Minh. MOS:HAWAII itself acknowledges that "Article titles can be contentious", or at least it did before Kwamikagami recently removed that sentence. It's fine to prefer Hawaiian names to English names in a discussion, but there are quite a few editors who will point to policy at WP:COMMONNAME and WP:ENGLISHTITLE over local guidelines at MOS. Station1 (talk) 02:23, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Move this and the other Hawaiian language pages per MOS:HAWAII, not a controversial move. PersusjCP (talk) 23:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I had the same question. MOS:HAWAII has been adopted and was affirmed in the recent RM at Talk:Hawaiʻi (island) involving multiple pages. Cleaning up titles to align with the current MOS should not be controversial, unless an argument has been presented that a particular page warrants exception. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Kwamikagami: As I just mentioned on your talk page, these are controversial and need to be discussed. There have been previous RMs about Hawaiian names and other foreign names that use diacritics. Station1 (talk) 12:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- The last move discussion at Talk:Iao Valley was 5 years ago. Zurich, Cancún, and Ho Chi Minh City obviously are not covered by MOS:HAWAII. I agree that by the letter of the ‘law’ any history of prior move discussion makes a move ‘potentially controversial’ but when there is a guideline update, bringing pages that have not recently been discussed into alignment should be looked at differently. No reason has been provided that any of these pages have special considerations that override the MOS and recent RM confirming consensus for Hawaiʻi articles. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 05:13, 21 July 2025 (UTC)