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hounding Opposers
[edit]... the same folks who constantly yap about how RfA is so broken are the ones who hound Opposers. Insert exasperated curse word here. Why can't folks see that this is a part of the problem? Ling.Nut (talk—WP:3IAR) 03:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. Although I've probably opposed about half of the candidates I've voted on since I passed RfA and took an interest in such things (before then I had only voted in one RfA, because an editor I knew was standing), I kinda hate it because you can make yourself a target for all the candidate's friends.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- That's funny. The people who make RFA broken are the opposers :) So perhaps they need "hounding" (hounding is of course a complete exaggeration of reality). Majorly talk 03:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- I tend to agree with Majorly here. The reason often cited for why RfA is broken is because editors oppose over the slightest flaws. Extensive discussion about the oppose votes' rationale can perhaps like to a rethinking of positions, and a happier environment for all. Just think. How would RfA be if you couldn't respond to another user's vote. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 03:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Actually an interesting idea. Or if the job of responding was limited to the candidate and the nominator(s) ...--Wehwalt (talk) 03:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- <Sarcastic reply redacted>. I agree. In theory, I don't mind people making comments; it's the comments that are made.. the heckling, cajoling, bullying, what kind of an idiot are you, how dare you oppose, etc. But it will never stop. Sigh. Perhaps limiting the responses to the candidate and the nominator(s) is a very very good idea. Maybe a little sandbox page where others can suggest a response. I knoww it sounds childish, but.... it fits the situation. Ling.Nut (talk—WP:3IAR) 04:01, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- But people oppose when the candidate responds to each opposer, since (somehow) it comes across as combative. That's a trap I fell into during my first RfB; I thought I was doing a good thing by responding to concerns as they were voiced, but it appeared to everyone else that I was badgering people. Very perplexing. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- <Sarcastic reply redacted>. I agree. In theory, I don't mind people making comments; it's the comments that are made.. the heckling, cajoling, bullying, what kind of an idiot are you, how dare you oppose, etc. But it will never stop. Sigh. Perhaps limiting the responses to the candidate and the nominator(s) is a very very good idea. Maybe a little sandbox page where others can suggest a response. I knoww it sounds childish, but.... it fits the situation. Ling.Nut (talk—WP:3IAR) 04:01, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Actually an interesting idea. Or if the job of responding was limited to the candidate and the nominator(s) ...--Wehwalt (talk) 03:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- People claim RFA is a !vote, so that means it's not a vote. Discussion is allowed. If you find your vote being questioned (or hounded if you like to exaggerate), perhaps it's an indication your reasoning simply isn't good enough. This is especially true when more than one person questions (or badgers) it (this is commonly known as a "witchhunt" or "lynch mob"). Majorly talk 04:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Or it could be an indication that the candidate has loyal friends. Which do you think?--Wehwalt (talk) 04:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- I would stick up for every Tom, Dick or Harry who was getting unfair treatment by opposers. It's nothing to do with friends a lot of the time. It has everything to do with helping out a fellow user getting bashed by a load of opposers because they forgot to sign their candidacy, or they incorrectly reverted back to a vandalised version of a page a few months ago. Majorly talk 04:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Or it could be an indication that the candidate has loyal friends. Which do you think?--Wehwalt (talk) 04:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- People claim RFA is a !vote, so that means it's not a vote. Discussion is allowed. If you find your vote being questioned (or hounded if you like to exaggerate), perhaps it's an indication your reasoning simply isn't good enough. This is especially true when more than one person questions (or badgers) it (this is commonly known as a "witchhunt" or "lynch mob"). Majorly talk 04:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- RfA is a discussion, not a !vote. There is nothing wrong with discussing opposes. The "B" word is thrown around way too lightly. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 04:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- RfA is a popularity contest, disguised as a !vote, disguised as an election. --Malleus Fatuorum 05:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Uh... not to be rude here... but Welcome to the real world... Since when was an election not disguised as a popularity contest? Spending 125 million on a campaign for a 400,000/year job... hmmmmmm where have I seen this before? - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ guestbook ♦ contribs 10:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Since people started believing in !votes. --Malleus Fatuorum 11:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Uh... not to be rude here... but Welcome to the real world... Since when was an election not disguised as a popularity contest? Spending 125 million on a campaign for a 400,000/year job... hmmmmmm where have I seen this before? - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ guestbook ♦ contribs 10:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- RfA is a popularity contest, disguised as a !vote, disguised as an election. --Malleus Fatuorum 05:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)