Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Ling.Nut
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On closing
[edit]If there's a task a crat dreads/is bred by a ghastly WP:RFB process to do, it would be handling these RFAs. There were a number of well-supported points on both sides of the debate, and sifting through was not an easy task. I expect to catch some flak.
From a numerical perspective, the percentage was 64%, which by historical precedent is not successful. Promotions at this percentage or below have been rare and contentious. My initial reaction after a skim and a reading straight through was to request a cratchat, but as I looked about I believe it became clear that there was not a consensus to promote. Although the support was able to give examples of Ling.nut's contributions to the encyclopedia in content, the opposition had examples of their own as well.
The main difficulty was adjusting for certain effects and trends that occur, which I like to call the "maverick effect" and the "tenure effect." The maverick effect is quite simple: A user with viewpoints considered to be nonstandard or less supported, or a different methodology in approaching things tends to attract a good amount of support and opposition. The tenure effect is even simpler: The longer a user edits, the more likely they are to make "questionable" edits or to start a beef with someone, intentional or unintentional.
Now the latter manifests itself in appeals to relatively distant edits and generalized characterizations of personality. I did see aspects of the second, but not as much of the first. In fact, the points most repeated in the opposition were related to a very recent incident, not to other longer-term behaviors (e.g. "the multiple retirements, and the near-complete lack of adminly experience"). As a result, I was not convinced that there were serious long-term grudges in the opposition.
The maverick effect is more difficult to sort out. Generally a candidate will moderate their stance a bit for RFA, but certain behaviors, I think, made this effect quite visible. The self-posed optional questions most clearly demonstrated this point, creating a polarized response, with some supporting for it and others opposing for it. It was universally acknowledged that the candidate approached contributing here in a different way than most editors, but whether this was constructive or destructive was similarly split. Reading through the opposition, I was not convinced that most people were opposing just for the sake of the user being different.
The degree of support/oppose polarization is always something to look at as well. There was a rather small neutral section in comparison with previous so-called "controversial" RFAs, and though there were changing views the opposition was uniformly firm in opposing. The support was similarly firm in supporting. Opposition badgering was not prominent either, which indicates that there might not have been that much to argue about.
TL;DR: This RFA pretty clearly demonstrated a no consensus result. Arguments were supported with actual events, and both sides had a rather large mass with relatively few people in the middle. bibliomaniac15 04:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- I have only one quibble - it wasn't tl;dr. Anyone with over four years and 30K edits, plus over 100 expressions of support deserves no less than a thoughtful analysis. I didn't find the time I needed to add a !vote, but I did read much of the commentary, and it was clear this wouldn't be a simple task. --SPhilbrickT 18:45, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think it was a reasonable explanation. — Deckiller 20:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Bibliomaniac, thank you for your well-considered reasoning. Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed with the rationale and the result. Thank you for performing this laborious task, and then having the stamina to document the process. 7 12:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- I also applaud your post Bibliomaniac. It shows great integrity and good practice to discuss your reasoning so carefully in a contested RfA such as this. Geometry guy 00:36, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Commend for sensitive handling of a difficult case. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC).
- See above. Well done Bibliomaniac! Barts1a (talk) 02:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Commend for sensitive handling of a difficult case. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC).
- I also applaud your post Bibliomaniac. It shows great integrity and good practice to discuss your reasoning so carefully in a contested RfA such as this. Geometry guy 00:36, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed with the rationale and the result. Thank you for performing this laborious task, and then having the stamina to document the process. 7 12:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Bibliomaniac, thank you for your well-considered reasoning. Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think it was a reasonable explanation. — Deckiller 20:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC)