Wikipedia talk:Administrator recall/Fastily

IP comments

@Bbb23 Just taking this to the talk page. I'm reading what you're saying but if that's the case, then why have you left the other IP comments then? They're not logged into an account, ergo cannot post in project space. If it was to prevent impersonation, then I'd understand- but you have now apparently refuted by providing an alternative explanation. Why is one editor allowed to edit without logging in, but another one isn't? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 01:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because the one I removed said they had an account. I have no evidence that the others do, or at least I didn't see any evidence of it. Many IPs edit and have no account; there's nothing wrong with that as long as they're not independently disruptive.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bbb23's action here makes sense to me, for what it's worth. Unless the individual in question has scrambled their password, they can log in and add their comment again if they really wish to. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for explaining that. So, just to be clear, are you saying that there is community consensus that editors who abandon their old account are no longer allowed to come back as an IP, even if they disclose? Sorry, I've been out of those discussions for a while and I mean... I've definitely seen IPs act in project space, admit to having previous accounts (even in SPI and AN/I) and I've not seen their comments removed unless an admin believes them to be disruptive. I'd love to read more about this- is this documented somewhere?

And, as an aside- Scorpions claimed to have scrambled their password- which I'm inclined to believe. I'm also inclined to believe that the IP is theirs, given the geolocation and the lack of any clear incentive for somebody to impersonate them. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 01:28, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:PROJSOCK - and please don't be too literal when you read it.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if I can't read it and take it literally, please tell me how I'm meant to read it. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 01:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a weird thing to say. Wikipedia policies derive their authority, if any, from the consensus of the community and it precisely the text of the policy that most demonstrably reflects that consensus. Here the policy says Undisclosed alternative accounts generally may not be used in discussions internal to the project outside of limited circumstance. WP:LOGOUT likewise states that Editors who are not logged in must not actively try to deceive other editors. Given that the logged-out editor disclosed their account and does not appear to have been trying to deceive anyone, I'm struggling to see the issue here. -- Visviva (talk) 01:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]