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Assistance for new editors unable to post here

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The Teahouse is frequently semi-protected, meaning the Teahouse pages cannot be edited by unregistered users (users with IP addresses), as well as accounts that are not confirmed or autoconfirmed (accounts that are at least 4 days old with at least 10 edits on English Wikipedia).

However, you can still get direct assistance on your talk page. Use this link to ask for help; a volunteer will reply to you there shortly. Alternatively, you can contact an experienced editor by visiting your homepage and clicking "Ask your mentor a question about editing".

There are currently 0 user(s) asking for help via the {{Help me}} template:

can someone help me find more images for Italian brainrot characters?

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The Italian brainrot page is lacking multiple characters and I need images of them. MarkofGorillaTag (talk) 22:11, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MarkofGorillaTag. Please link to the article which you are looking. I think you should make a list of characters that you believe that are missing. You can upload a images here yourself but that images must comply with the copyright policies. Fade258 (talk) 01:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Courtesy link: Draft:Characters of Italian brainrot (probably) GoldRomean (talk) 02:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As other users might have said, images must not be copyrighted. After finding a reliable source, you can upload to Commons and then add the image. Cooldudeseven7 talkcontribs 14:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
but how do I check if an image is copyrighted? because Google only says "image May or May not be copyrighted." MarkofGorillaTag (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In the United States (whose copyright laws me must follow because the servers are there) by default (generally) the creator of a piece of media owns the copyright for said media for a long time. However I'm not sure how that works with AI image generation... I would check out Commons:AI-generated media for advice. If you can't verify the copyright status of an image, do not upload it. For Wikipedia, it's preferable (well, mandatory) for have an article to have less images than to break our copyright policy. If you have other questions feel free to ask. The Sophocrat (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ok, so I wont upload the images (since its really hard to verify ai generated images made by random TikTok users) MarkofGorillaTag (talk) 20:34, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Generally, images generated by AI are not copyrighted; there only seems to be exceptions if they originate from the UK or Hong Kong (again, generally). The only exception is the situational classification of such images as derivative works due to many of them being trained on copyrighted content. The link Sophocrat sent explains this in more detail. — rae5e <talk> 13:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why multiple accounts can’t be used to contribute to the same page or article in a way that suggests that they are multiple people?

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After reading Wikipedia:BADSOCK, what I found interesting is “Contributing to the same page or discussion with multiple accounts: Editors may not use more than one account to contribute to the same page or discussion in a way that suggests they are multiple people.”

But can you please all explain why can’t you create multiple accounts just to pretend to be multiple people or mislead that they are different people? Why these multiple accounts should never be used to edit the same article, unless linked and disclosed each other? Why is this considered sockpuppetry? And why is this forbidden to use more than one account to pose as multiple editors? And why it is considered a policy? However, why it couldn’t be used to look like more than one editor contributing to Wikipedia? Thanks. 2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9 (talk) 17:15, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Same reason why voting fraud is illegal in elections. There is no legitimate reason to lie to other editors by making them believe your socks are multiple people. It gives an unfair advantage to the sockmaster if they are not caught. It sets an atmosphere where we cannot trust each other. Why do you think this should be allowed? Tarlby (t) (c) 17:28, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’m only talking about using multiple accounts to edit the same article or page. 2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9 (talk) 18:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no real reason for a constructive editor to want to edit a page using multiple accounts. GoldRomean (talk) 18:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's still lying and can be used to pretend there is a consensus. like user:tarlby said, there isn't any reason to do so unless you had malicious intent mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 18:42, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Tarlby @Mgjertson Yeah right? I don’t think that this should be allowed. Can this be the same with help desks, when voting or consensus is not involved? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Tarlby (t) (c) 15:41, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would like to redirect a redirect

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I created an article on Lenny Solomon. Currently, Lenny Solomon re-directs to Schlock Rock. I would appreciate advice on how to direct Lenny Solomon to my new article. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 23:14, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite, Allthemilescombined1. Somebody created the article Lenny Solomon (American-Israeli musician), which unsurprisingly is about a musician named Lenny Solomon. We read that he's in his mid-sixties and there's no hint that he's Canadian. There's also an article titled Lenny Solomon -- and I mean an actual article, not a redirect. We read that its subject is in his early seventies and is Canadian; we don't read that he's Israeli. (The two Lenny Solomons also appear to play different kinds of music.) Now, what do you want to happen to the article that's currently titled "Lenny Solomon"? (Are you asking for the addition of Template:For at its top?) -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Allthemilescombined1. Your post is very confusing. Lenny Solomon is an old article about another musician, not a redirect. You created Lenny Solomon (American-Israeli musician). I guess you mean Lenny solomon with lowercase s which was a redirect to Shlock Rock, not Schlock Rock with Sc which also redirects to Shlock Rock. I have changed the redirect target to Lenny Solomon. A lowercase surname should not lead to a different page. I have added a hatnote pointing to your new article to Lenny Solomon.[1] I don't know which of the musicians is more notable. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Hoary and @PrimeHunter. Could we create a disambiguation page so that searches for Lenny Solomon suggest both options? Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We could indeed; but would it be a good idea? Please digest Wikipedia:Disambiguation. -- Hoary (talk) 01:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it would be a good idea. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 01:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Currently, somebody wanting to look up the American-Israeli musician would probably look up Lenny Solomon, whereupon they'd be told: "This article is about the Canadian musician. For the American-Israeli musician, see Lenny Solomon (American-Israeli musician)." Somebody wanting to look up the Canadian musician would probably look up Lenny Solomon and immediately arrive at the page about him. If "Lenny Solomon" were a disambiguation page, then whichever Lenny Solomon people were looking for, they'd probably have to go through the disambiguation page. How would this be more desirable? -- Hoary (talk) 05:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary_topic_with_only_one_other_topic says "If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, and one is the primary topic, then a disambiguation page is not needed—it is sufficient to use a hatnote on the primary topic article, pointing to the other article." Maproom (talk) 08:24, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They are equally notable. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 09:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, I've moved the Canadian Lenny Solomon to Lenny Solomon (Canadian musician) so we can have disambiguation without creating a page. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PhoenixCaelestis Thank you. Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is it ever reasonable to conclude that an entity is defunct, or would it necessarily constitute OR to change an "is" to a "was"?

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I came across our article on an institution called "Knightsbridge University", an apparent diploma mill. On its talk page, someone in 2010 has noted that Knightsbridge University appears to have no activity anywhere, and 15 years later, I find no sign of life. The article also notes that in 2009 Danish authorities ordered it to stop calling itself a "university", so that might count towards changing the "is" in the opening sentence to "was" in this particular case.

But there seems to be a more general question, namely: at what point is it reasonable to conclude that some (corporate, perhaps online) entity has become defunct, on the basis of not being able to find any sign that it is still active, or would doing so always constitute original research? After all, if the people operating it have simply folded their tents and let their domain name lapse etc., then there may be no source anywhere that could be cited to confirm that it is defunct, and saying "is" in the present tense feels funny. Any thoughts? --Rallette (talk) 09:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Googling "Knightsbridge University closure" I am greeted with this page stating that it ceased activity in 2018. It is a self-published source though the author appears to be a professor and says he holds several positions, so I am unsure if this qualifies as a reliable source. I think you could say that it ceased operations in 2018 and thus referred to it in the past tense, though other editors may wish to weigh in on this issue. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:03, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, upon a second skim the article says that the university ceased activity a decade before Denmark passed its University Act. I guess it shut down roughly in 2008. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found that blog post too but just skimmed it and missed that bit. Thanks! The more general question remains unanswered, but I guess the answer would be that original research is original research.--Rallette (talk) 05:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weird code issue with references at the bottom of an article

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Hi, I mostly do work on the fantasy book Wundersmith: The Calling of Morrigan Crow wiki article, and I noticed something off with the references at the bottom of the page, like a structural/coding error? It says "Lua error in Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration at line 2123: Attempt to index a boolean value". What does this mean, and how can I fix it?

Any help is much appreciated, thank you. Cornonthehunt (talk) 11:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, update to this: The code error disappeared when I went and looked at it from a non-editing page view. Still not sure what caused it however. Cornonthehunt (talk) 11:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cornonthehunt information Clarity note: Upon inspection, it appears the errors are still present in the article. Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 12:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cornonthehunt: A purge fixed it. A used module probably had an error when the page was last rendered. Rendered pages are cached for performance reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, appreciate it. Cornonthehunt (talk) 21:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TWA Communicator badge

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Hi everyone, this is my first time using Wikipedia. My goal is to achieve all of 15 budge. However, communicator budge is the only one I still cannot complete. I’ve been trying for many times, and it doesn’t work. Could you help me guild how to achieve? Sasolely (talk) 13:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Sasolely! I would actually advise for you to not worry about it. Those badges are pretty much meaningless. Writ Keeper  13:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your advice Writ Keeper. However, today all those budges are very important for me. As I got requirements from my instructors. They didn’t expect me to be that expert, but budges can tell whether I try to use and learn about Wikipedia or not. Since they know that I’ve never used or even heard about Wikipedia features before. Sasolely (talk) 13:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have you had that budge? Sasolely (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Sorry for cutting in suddenly, but are you editing Wikipedia as a part of an educational course? The word "instructors" made me wonder that... or maybe there's something I don't know. Just wondering! As you were previously told, the badges are purely cosmetic and "are pretty much meaningless". I did read your user talk page, and it does look like there is a glitch preventing one badge from showing up. AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 14:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there is one budge hasn’t shown up on my user page while it told me I already get that budge. Sasolely (talk) 14:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That one is verifiability. Sasolely (talk) 14:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But for communicator, I haven’t gained it. Sasolely (talk) 14:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what's going on, but here's some advice: if you click "source editing" you can see the raw code that generates what you see. Your user page is currently:
'''''Sasolely''''' loves watching [[movies]].
{{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/4template}}
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So if you want to make a badge show up on your userpage, you can just write {{Wikipedia:TWA/Badge/<n>template}}. If you've met the requirements, I might just manually add the badge to your page. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On User talk:Sasolely, Taweetham writes "You are supposed to have 15 badges in total on your user page. I know that one is not working. We therefore expect 14 in total instead." Taweetham's most recent edit is this: adding the identical comment to user talk:Kanom 2003. Perhaps Taweetham would care to comment here on their (plural: "we") expectations and on Sasolely's predicament. -- Hoary (talk) 22:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. Sasolely (talk) 01:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrfoogles, Hoary, and Sasolely: I’m an instructor for a class of approximately 40 first-year undergraduate students. As part of a course assignment, students are asked to complete two out of four available tasks, one of which is WP:TWA.
I understand that tools which worked reliably in the past may no longer function as expected, and unfortunately I don't have the time to troubleshoot the underlying scripts. For students who are unable to earn all 15 (or 14 rather) badges, I recommend the following:
  • Use the latest version of Google Chrome on a desktop computer (not a tablet)
  • Work in source editing mode
  • Keep the additional WP:TWA window open at all times, and
  • Carefully follow the instructions provided on the WP:TWA pages.
--Taweetham (talk) 04:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to article about Steven Knight

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Hello, i have added citation and date of birth to the article about Steven Knight if this citation is not reliable please remove it, thank you. 2409:4073:218E:E86F:7123:2B34:E0A:7BEE (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like your changes were reverted already - IMDb is not a reliable source. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 21:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Low (Chemist) page

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Is it allowable for a person to request changes to a page if it's about themselves? Philip Low would like to add/replace things about himself on this page that was written about him and I was wondering if I could give those edits to someone. Thanks for your help. Philip S Low (talk) 18:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Philip S Low Hello and welcome. That is absolutely allowed; you should use the edit request process(click for instructions) on the talk page(Talk:Philip Low (chemist)). The edit request wizard can facilitate a request as well.
I will note that you spoke about yourself in the third person; if you are not Dr. Low, you must change your username as soon as possible, you shouldn't use his name as your username unless you are him. (you also may not share access to the account with him or anyone) You may change your username via Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 19:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am his Admin Assistant and the one that created this page after being tasked to build a Wikipedia page about him. I went in and tried to change the profile name but can't seem to figure it out. I'll just go ahead and delete this profile and start over with my own name. Philip S Low (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Philip S Low: Accounts can't be deleted for reasons of edit attribution. It's easier to just abandon the account and create a new one instead of waiting for an account rename. Either way, disclose your paid relationship with the subject, preferably on the user page of whatever account you use next.
I also strongly suggest you read Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. Keep in mind that the subject does not own the article about them, and should reliable sources report negatively on them, it is very possible that sort of content will stick around for a very long time, if not forever. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Philip S Low. In addition to what 331dot says, please note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. Unless any material he wishes to add is cited to a reliable source, wholly independent of him, it is unlikely to be added. ColinFine (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox Title

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If I create a sandbox, Can I title my page the title of my article I wish to call it like User:Breck0530/List of Other Interstate Proposals or you can only call it User:Breck0530/sandbox? Breck0530 (talk) 21:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you can, you just need to make sure it's still in your userspace. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 22:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ok Thanks! Breck0530 (talk) 22:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, @Breck0530. The only difference between a sandbox called "sandbox" and one called something else is that there is a shortcut to "sandbox" on your user menu (in the skin I use, in the drop-down from the "person" icon at the top right). ColinFine (talk) 23:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello. Are external links generally allowed in templates? I just came across one in Template:Guantanamo Bay detainees, and it causes the link to appear after the template when it's used in an article, like in List of Yemeni detainees at Guantanamo Bay. It looks out of place, but I'm not sure what the correct approach is in a situation like this, so I don't know what to do. Paprikaiser (talk) 21:41, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, I hadn't seen that before either. WP:NAVBOX states "Finally, external links should not be included in navigation templates. Sources may be included in the template documentation (a <noinclude> section that is visible only after viewing the template itself, but not upon its transclusion).". So no, it shouldn't have an external link. The Sophocrat (talk) 01:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Paprikaiser Just for clarity, many templates do include valid external links. So {{Infobox person}} may have a person's website as a link, for example. Some templates, like {{IMDb title}} are specifically designed to give a weblink but in that case are only supposed to be placed in the external links section of an article. As already mentioned, navboxes shouldn't have such links. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you both! Paprikaiser (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why is removing a speedy deletion from a page you created yourself against policy?

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It's not an XfD tag (where nobody is allowed to remove it when the discussion is underway), and since anybody who's not yourself is allowed to remove it Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 23:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page creators can remove speedies from certain types of pages. For those that they cannot remove a speedy from, they can contest the speedy on the talk page. As for why... we don't want creators of clearly inappropriate material to be able to derail the uncontroversial deletion by removing the speedy themselves, whether in good faith or not. It's one shot deal, and anyone but the creator can remove the speedy request, so it's not as if we make it hard to deny a speedy. Meters (talk) 00:04, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Review – Draft: Wasamundi (Cameroon Startup)

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Hi all, I’ve drafted a page about Wasamundi, a defunct Cameroonian tech startup from the Silicon Mountain community. I’ve disclosed my past professional connection to the project. Would someone be willing to review the draft at: Wasamundi I’d appreciate any advice on neutrality, citations, or readiness for mainspace. MountainTechActor (talk) 01:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @MountainTechActor. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the draft would pass as an article at this state. All articles on Wikipedia rely on verifiable information derived from reliable, secondary sources. You've done this the other way around; please read WP:BACKWARDS. Without these sources, the article is entirely based on original research that is impossible to verify for a reader, nor prove that the subject is notable in the first place. It is best if you find sources.
And to clarify, are you paid in any way to write that article? Tarlby (t) (c) 01:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Tarlby Thank you for the pointers. I'll make updates based on your feedback. I’m not being paid. I worked with the founding team and the project was very notable in west Africa and Cameroon in particular. I was surprised it does not have a wiki page. I got some facts wrong like when the project shutdown; last year not 2017. Would work to improve sourcing, re-write based on independent references. Would love your second opinion when convenient. Appreciate your guidance. Thanks again. MountainTechActor (talk) 00:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing template causing spacing issues

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On the page for Proprietary software, the template for "intellectual property" creates an awkward gap in spacing between the lead and the next table in the article. It's not a crucial issue, but how could I correct this? ALittleClass (talk) 01:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ALittleClassI have Fixed the issues you were experiencing.If you need more help you may post a message on my My Talk Page
Bleeng (talk) 02:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It does not show up as fixed on my screen, in fact the issue is worse now, there's a huge gap between the template and the start of the article. ALittleClass (talk) 02:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please describe the issue deeply.wjat going wrong with you. Bleeng (talk) 02:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
there is a huge gap between the title of the article and the first paragraph caused by the template. What computer are you using, or are you on mobile? ALittleClass (talk) 02:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done! Now You may check there was a template which was causing problem but is is also crucial to indicate about redirects.
Here is the Template. "Redirect-confused|Non-free software|Commercial software|Business software" Bleeng (talk) 02:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ccTLD codes

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Two letter "Country Code Top Level Domain" can be access by typing say ".nz" for New Zealand

What are the three letter codes used for Sports called, such as "NZL" ?

And should there be links such as .NZL to access there Sports Code Top Level Domain

The two codes might be combined as a disambuguation topic?

Is there a list of these scTLD codes ?

The ccTLD are mentioned in the description of most if not all countries ! ----MountVic127 (talk) 06:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Country code top-level domain" are about Internet.
"Sport Code Top Level Domain" aren't in existence.

You can't create an article for something that don't exist. Anatole-berthe (talk) 08:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're probably looking for ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 country codes. They're similar to top level domains in that they're short sequences of letters identifying a country, but are otherwise unrelated. statisticalphil (talk) 09:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is possible you're looking for "ISO 3166-1 alpha-3" but this list is not used in all sports.
Is this the right list ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 12:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File Talk FAQ pages listed on the Wikipedia FAQs Category page

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Browsing Category:Wikipedia FAQs, I came across a link that struck me as odd going to File_talk:Eurovision_winners_map.svg/FAQ.

I assume it's due to Template:FAQ page categorizing all pages under File talk as Wikipedia FAQs. There is a point to be made that as the talk page is about a file rather than an article, it should not fall under the alternative Category:Wikipedia article FAQs, but I feel that would be an improvement over listing them under FAQs about Wikipedia generally.

Obviously not a particularly pressing issue, but caught my eye. Aksuloid (talk) 08:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help request / feedback on a draft

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Hello everyone, I am a somewhat disoriented new user. I have been trying to create a page making several mistakes and getting useful feedback from the community. I have now tidied up the draft I am working on, trying to put everything to good use and following the guidelines. Would anyone mind giving an opinion on this draft and, if it works, help me to publish it? Thank you for your help

L.

Draft:Giovanni Soldini (Italian sailor) LUDOSDM (talk) 10:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You have no need to have bare links in your sources section, the "notes" one should be renamed to References - that's where your sources go. Also, you should have a source for every claim made in a biography of a living person. If not, the content is unsourced and should be removed. And as a minor rule of thumb: your in-text citations goes after any punctuation (commas, periods, colons, etc.), not before. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much LUDOSDM (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @LUDOSDM, and welcome to the Teahouse.
This is not something you need to worry about now (the reviewer who accepts your draft will sort it out) but for future reference, the description in parenthesis ("Italian sailor") is something we use only to distinguish articles about different things or people with the same name. Since we have no existing article Giovanni Soldini, when this draft is accepted, that is the title it will have. As I say, you do not need to do anything about this.
Generally, Teahouse hosts do not to pre-reviews: the way to get feedback on your draft is to submit it for review: that is what the review process is for. ColinFine (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much LUDOSDM (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see that Draft:Giovanni Soldini (Italian sailor) and Draft:Giovanni Soldini now both exist. I advise strongly against having rival draft versions for the same article. It can confuse reviewers; it can confuse the creator; and it can confuse or deter anyone who might be thinking of helping to improve the draft. I suggest that you ask to have the former version deleted, or just blank it, to avoid confusion. Maproom (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
thanks for the info. i am trying to remove it. how can I delete it? LUDOSDM (talk) 20:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

how to improve my wiki page

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Hi advisor, I recently needed to upload a wiki page about the UN Chamber Music Society. but it keeps getting rejected, and I was hoping you could suggest some changes to make sure this page is uploadable. Rachel Zenggggg (talk) 11:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the teahouse, @Rachel Zenggggg!
You have no contributions other than your user page and the teahouse, what do you mean by "it keep getting rejected"? The content should also not be on your userpage. If you click this link, then it will create a page for the person you are writing about. From there, you can copy what's written on your userpage to that page.
I also strongly advise you to read the above advice I gave to LUDOSDM, as well as reading this page about writing better articles. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's my second account, the first account has been blocked permanently. But right now i am working on another one's wiki page. The organization called UN Chamber Music Society. Rachel Zenggggg (talk) 11:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So you are.. evading a block? What was the username of your first account? PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have moved the draft from the user page to User:Rachel Zenggggg/sandbox. -- Hoary (talk) 11:32, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Rachel Zenggggg: You should be able to see this, although you are blocked.
Your draft needs more citations, both to verify what you say, and to show that the subject meets our criteria for inclusion. In particular, most of those citations should be published in reliable sources, independent of the orchestra.
You also need to declare any conflict of interest or paid involvement.
You can also read Help:Your first article.
You can't reply here while you are blocked, but you can reply on your talk page and I (and other editors) will see what you say there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:UN Chamber Music Society was created in March by User:Stephanoccenad, who is not blocked. Another (since deleted) version was created by User:UNCMS Editor, who is only softblocked, who may be the blocked user referred to above. @331dot:, as the admin who blocked Rachel Zenggggg. Yet another (also deleted) seems to have been created by User:Barameeperm (also not blocked).

We seem to have one or more good-faith new editors trying to create an article about a non-profit, but not understanding our policies, not least around COI. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rachel Zenggggg, I can help you do this following the rules, please email me at john.cummings at fao.org. Thanks :) John Cummings (talk) 18:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much!!! I just emailed you. Please feel free to check it out!!! Thank you so much!!!! Rachel Zenggggg (talk) 07:58, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Academic sources

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Academics means studying teaching in school, colleges. Why the teachers are interested in latest crimes? I don't understand how teachers professors are given more importance in Wikipedia in articles related to latest crime, terrorism, politics.

If media mentions something, victims mention something, but academics mention different thing, then academic sources are given more importance here?

What are academic sources? PhD research papers, prescribed syllabus in universities? Fruit Orchard (talk) 11:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Academic sources are generally peer-reviewed and ensured to make sure the information is accurate. News reports and personal accounts get stuff wrong all the time. The recent India-Pakistan border clashes are a major example of this, reports keep giving conflicting accounts and it's often hard to sift through the rubbish. One of Wikipedia's core policies is verifiability, not truth. And the truth hurts.[citation needed] PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello.

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How to create a forum about Tonga? B255555555 (talk) 13:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @B255555555, and welcome to the Teahouse.
I'm afraid that the answer is "find somewhere that hosts forums: Wikipedia does not". Talk pages, and WikiProjects such as WikiProject Tonga are for coordination and discussion about Wikipedia articles, not about the subjects of the articles. See WP:NOTFORUM. ColinFine (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How to spot vandalism

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What are some common signs of vandalism, because I want to ensure that this encyclopedia is accurate and safe. Where are common places of vandalism, and how can I keep track of them? I want to prevent vandalism, but I do not know how to do so.

AstronomyKid1 (talk) 13:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @AstronomyKid1, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please have a look at WP:CVU- I think you'll find what you're looking for there. ColinFine (talk) 13:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also take a look at Wikipedia:Vandalism. Shantavira|feed me 13:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

uhhh?

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Hi, I am @Shaneapickle and I have been logged out for a while now, (yes wikipedia is using my computers id for some reason) and i just have a question, how do i get back into my account on my computer, when my school is blocking Wikimedia? I am logged in on my tablet but I am bad at editing on there. I need some help here. 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 13:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying that your school has blocked wikipedia completely or account creation is blocked?
If the website is blocked, we don't manage that, your school/school district manages that. Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 14:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My school completely blocked wikimedia so i cant log back in 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 15:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, we cannot fix/change that, as your restrictions are set by your School, School District, or Internet Service Provider. Also, if you really do need to edit wikipedia for some reason, I would suggest talking to someone who can manage that to request a change to the restrictions, if possible. Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 15:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
alsso is using ip adresses count as abusing multiple accounts or no? 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 16:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not in these circumstances. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think they are talking about the new login domain thing, like the login page on Wikipedia and other projects share a single domain now. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
sorry to correct you but I am actually a boy (he/him) 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:88A2:81BC:7FFF:C49C (talk) 15:02, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Singular they. But that's not the issue here. Did you have a further question about editing Wikipedia? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting review of my sandbox draft.

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Hi, I’m a new editor and have a declared conflict of interest (I’m the subject of the article). I’ve drafted a biography at User:Shafiur2020/sandbox and would be grateful if an uninvolved editor could take a look, advise on notability, and let me know if it’s ready for mainspace. Many thanks! Shafiur2020 (talk) 13:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editor here, see these wikipedia essays
WP:N
WP:COI
WP:BLP
WP:NPOV
WP:SELFCITE 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:B554:36:682:91B2 (talk) 13:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The best way to solicit a review is to use the Article Wizard to submit your draft. 331dot (talk) 14:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will add that writing about yourself- while not absolutely forbidden- is inadvisable, see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 14:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can add the {{User Sandbox}} template to submit it from there. Please, of course read the articles that are posted above. Please also know that autobiographies are inadvisable as said by 331dot. Happy Editing! Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 14:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An IP added those, not me. Just FYI. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I read that wrong! Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 15:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ooops sorry. I pasted the wrong reply to you. Apologies.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply and advice. I’ve read all the linked guidelines and am working carefully to follow them, including full COI disclosure and independent sourcing. I understand the risks and difficulties involved in drafting about oneself, which is why I’m seeking only independent review — not publication — and want to ensure the material is accurate and policy-compliant before any submission. Again, I really appreciate the guidance. Shafiur2020 (talk) 20:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for cleaning up the draft — that was really helpful.
To better address the notability issue: I'm working on clarifying in the text how the sources show significance beyond just documenting my work.
- The **CNN investigation** shows that my footage and survivor interviews were *central* to how they reconstructed the Tula Toli massacre; the piece is built around that material.
- The **Spanish Ministry of Culture** PDF documents that the short film I produced (''Tres tristes tigres'') won awards and screened widely at festivals.
- The **BBC World Service Newshour** interview presents the first documentary evidence suggesting pre-planning of the Rohingya massacre, based on testimonies I gathered.
- **CPJ**  reported that I faced threats due to my journalism, highlighting both the sensitivity and impact of the work.
- The **PEN Americal listing**  shows that I am recognised as a writer at risk, effectively exiled because of my reporting. This provides additional context for the press freedom dimensions of my work.
I’ll revise the draft to make these connections more explicit and would welcome any further suggestions on how best to frame them. Shafiur2020 (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Shafiur2020 I have edited your draft, which required extensive clean-up to make it a bit closer to our manual of style. The main issue remains to show how you are notable as defined by Wikipedia. For that you need as many fully independent sources as possible. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for cleaning up the draft — that was really helpful.
To better address the notability issue: I'm working on clarifying in the text how the sources show significance beyond just documenting my work.
- The **CNN investigation** shows that my footage and survivor interviews were *central* to how they reconstructed the Tula Toli massacre; the piece is built around that material.
- The **Spanish Ministry of Culture** PDF documents that the short film I produced (''Tres tristes tigres'') won awards and screened widely at festivals.
- The **BBC World Service Newshour** interview presents the first documentary evidence suggesting pre-planning of the Rohingya massacre, based on testimonies I gathered.
- **CPJ**  reported that I faced threats due to my journalism, highlighting both the sensitivity and impact of the work.
- The **PEN Americal listing**  shows that I am recognised as a writer at risk, effectively exiled because of my reporting. This provides additional context for the press freedom dimensions of my work.
I’ll revise the draft to make these connections more explicit and would welcome any further suggestions on how best to frame them. Shafiur2020 (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source credibility

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I would like to edit the article on Dirk Schouten to give information about his current Porsche Supercup campaign. The only articles I could find that officially state that he's racing in the cup for Dinamic Motorsport is an official publication from Porsche themselves, and this article from the team. Would these be considered reliable enough to add, given the fact that they're both an internal news source? OntheInterwebs (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[A long post by User:Cooldudeseven7 was here, but has been removed by them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:29, 22 May 2025 (UTC) ][reply]
Yes. These are not "self published" by Schouten, but are written by a third party about him. Unfortunately, User:Cooldudeseven7 misunderstands the guidance they have cited. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, sorry, it appears I had not looked at the article thoroughly enough- I am deeply sorry for the disruption I might have caused! I have deleted my reply.Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 16:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

cropping a photo posted

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is it possible to crop a photo once it is posted? thank you Guckercoalco (talk) 20:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Download the photo, crop it and upload under a different name. Ruslik_Zero 20:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
can the original photo be deleted? how? Guckercoalco (talk) 20:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Guckercoalco: If you uploaded the original photo, you can tag it for speedy deletion by adding {{db-g7}} to the original upload page. If you didn't, you probably shouldn't delete it at all, unless it's a non-free photo, in which case if you swap the photo in the article you are working on with the cropped version you can add {{Orfud}} to the original photo and it will be deleted after 7 days. Worgisbor (congregate) 20:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did upload the pictures. I had someone comment that it looked like I was not the owner of a picture but I am due to photo included the address where i have my pics. the pc needs cropped. I just want to abide by the requirements on this page but being a beginner at this... I'm learning slowly. many thanks Guckercoalco (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than uploading a screenshot please download ("save") the original image to your computer and then upload that image to Wikimedia Commons. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is a Crop tool in Commons, which I believe can be activated for other projects too: see C:COM:CropTool. ColinFine (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
thank you! Guckercoalco (talk) 22:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Guckercoalco, are you referring to the image you uploaded of a computer monitor which is showing a page on Flickr which is showing a photo that someone else took which is showing a flag on a flagpole, bearing the logo to which you own the copyright as heir? DS (talk) 00:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Link Rot in Domenico Veneziano article

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The Domenico Veneziano entry contains a link to an external video [2]. This site does exist, but is at the current time a paid site, and the link does not lead one to information about this artist. This could be mentioned on the article's Talk Page, but is there a better way to handle the problem? Oldsilenus (talk) 20:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

information Note: I do not believe this site is paywalled, but after dismissing the donation screen it said it could not find the page. Worgisbor (congregate) 21:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this does appear to be a donation screen, not a paywall.
This link might've been deleted, as per the message saying it cannot find the page.
Are you sure that is the correct link? Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 21:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually after asking the question I noticed that if one searches with the term "venezianos-st.-lucy-altarpiece" on the site one comes to the video. This is the way the link is given in the entry, but certainly NOT the best English grammar (one would expect "St Lucy Altarpiece" or "Veneziano's St Lucy Altarpiece" to work but they do not. Oldsilenus (talk) 03:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Then, after searching, it looks like the link is actually this. [3] Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 16:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is Modern Railways magazine a reliable source, and may I use it?

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Hello! This account is new, but really I've been 'walking' along the pages of Wikipedia. Mostly spending my free time browsing about things and pages such as this. Im a train and bus nerd, and I wish to start editing things along the UK side of these things.

Is Modern Railways a reliable source? I have recently bought a copy of the July 2025 issue, and it contains a story about the Class 455's supposed 'Life Extension' due to weary deliveries of its replacements. Which is what I wish to write as my first edit.

Another thing that begs the question, since it was released by today, which is (22/05/25), is it not allowed due to legal reasons or any other reason?

Much thanks. SKW. SollieKW (talk) 22:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome. I know of no law which prevents the use of a source on Wikipedia- copyright would prevent you from posting a verbatim copy(or close paraphrasing) but it doesn't prevent you from citing it.
If Modern Railways has a reputation of fact checking and editorial control(i.e. they don't just publish whatever their writers write), then they are probably reliable. 331dot (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was feeling since the edition was released TODAY (as of writing at GMT/BST)!
I think there has to be some sort of gripe behind it. SollieKW (talk) 22:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
SollieKW, our articles about Modern Railways and its publisher Key Publishing do not include any indications of unreliability. The presumption would be that a specialist publication like this is probably reliable for railways topics (which are called railroads in the US). Cullen328 (talk) 03:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I will soon write up an edit at British Rail Class 455 soon. SollieKW (talk) 10:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @SollieKW. The newness of the source is irrelevant - it is either a reliable source (for this material) or it isn't. I would advise being BOLD - if somebody disagrees, they can revert you and you can have a discussion. That's how Wikipedia works. ColinFine (talk) 09:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, cheers! I should think you may review this edit since yourself have an intrest on trains. :) SollieKW (talk) 10:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! I have finished my edits, and I did a bit of shuffling, I even added one of my photos that I took of 455868 when I got to see it.
British Rail Class 455
Mostly at the future page, and in the operations tab, my small rewrite of 5868.
Many thanks for the teahouses help! SollieKW (talk) 02:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SollieKW: The short answer is: yes, Modern Railways is a reliable source.
You might not be aware, but we have a discussion board at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways where people with a comprehensive knowledge of the UK's railways may be found. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:10, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Conducted Independent Research, but don't have anywhere to post it and reference for a wiki page

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I made a stats page for the women's rugby world cup statistics, basically mirroring what the men's version had, but unlike the men's none of this information was in a central location, so I went through world rugby game databases, ESPN match reports, and a lovely dutch website I found saved on internet archive to get a full list of scorers over the 9 prior editions of the tournament. To create the following article:

Records and statistics of the Women's Rugby World Cup

However since this is new research (as far as I know) there's nowhere for me to reference out for it. I've sent it on to the RFU and some other sites like https://womensrugbydata.com/womens-rugby-world-cup-1991/ but they haven't formally uploaded all the data yet.

What would you recommend I do in this instance? Is there a temporary repository I could use to source out the work I've done for this project? HitchikersPie (talk) 23:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Compiling statistics in this manner does not contravene the relevant guideline (WP:OR). So long as you cite the various sources that you have used, which you can do at the end of the table rather than at each individual point, that will be fine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dragon in the background?

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If I look at my user page (User:Dodecahedron123) and scroll down so that the grey background takes up most of the screen, I see a grey-on-grey image of a creature (a dragon?). What's up with that? What's the story behind that choice?

A user page with a low-contrast image of a dragon in the background.
User page screenshot

Dodecahedron123 (talk) 02:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dodecahedron123 What skin are you using? Justjourney (talk | contribs) 03:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see, the timeless skin. It shows on shorter pages on my end as well. I don't know the story about this though, maybe someone else will know. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is cat.svg, the default backdrop image for Timeless. It is documented at meta:Skin:Timeless and it's visible in the code repository. There's a MediaWiki variable to configure it, but I'm unsure whether the user can disable or override that. 2600:8800:1E8F:BE00:8DB6:9653:34F4:CB50 (talk) 07:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dodecahedron123: The documentation is at mw:Skin:Timeless#Configuration. The image is https://en.wikipedia.org/w/skins/Timeless/resources/images/cat.svg. I don't know how the image was chosen. It's added with this:
#mw-content-container {
    background:#eaecf0;
    border-bottom:solid 4px #00af89;
    background-image:url(/w/skins/Timeless/resources/images/cat.svg?558fd);
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    background-position:center 10em
}
It can be removed with this in your CSS:
#mw-content-container {
   background-image:none !important;
}
PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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What year? Swcr.kmook (talk) 02:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What link, please? Cremastra (uc) 03:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can I have a cup of tea? {Joke}

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This is the Teahouse so can I have one? Therealbubb1e (talk) 04:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we can! Here, have a cup of tea. 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Correct place to ask about notability concerns

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Hi, what would be the right place to ask about notability concerns prior to nominating for deletion? Boynamedsue (talk) 05:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can ask on the talk page of any of the WikiProjects listed on the article's talk pages. Be aware that some projects are more active than others and you may not get an answer very quickly on the inactive ones. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:54, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for review of my draft article on Samer Habbas

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Hi everyone,

I’m a new editor working on creating a Wikipedia article about Samer Habbas, a personal injury attorney based in California. I have drafted the article with multiple third-party reliable sources, including legal rankings and local news coverage, and tried to follow Wikipedia’s guidelines on neutrality and verifiability.

Could someone please review my draft and provide any feedback or suggestions on how to improve it? I want to ensure the article meets Wikipedia’s standards for notability and style before I submit it for formal review.

Here is the link to my sandbox draft: User:SamerHabbas/sandbox

Thank you very much for your time and help! Sandhya16Jan (talk) 05:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sandhya16Jan: to establish that Habbas is notable enough (in Wikipedia's idiosyncratic sense) to warrant an article about him, you'll need to find and cite several reliable independent published sources with extensive discussion of him. I see no such source in your draft. Maproom (talk) 07:27, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the feedback—I really appreciate your time and guidance.
I understand that Wikipedia requires reliable, independent sources with significant coverage. I've cited some legal directories (like Avvo, Martindale-Hubbell, and Super Lawyers), as well as press coverage such as the Los Angeles Times Business Visionaries feature. I’ve also included settlement reports and recognitions listed on third-party legal ranking sites.
That said, I’d really appreciate your suggestions:
Are there specific types of sources you recommend I look for (e.g., newspaper features, legal news outlets)?
Would a profile in Law360 or a news article about one of his major cases be more appropriate?
If I find two or three such articles, would that likely establish notability?
I'm happy to revise the draft and do more research. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction! Sandhya16Jan (talk) 07:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These things are largely not reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage. Simple database entries and basic profiles written by unknown parties are not useful and these are not editorial (and at least one is for hiring Habbas). The Los Angeles Times link is also inappropriate as "LA Times Studio" explicitly "does not involve the Los Angeles Times editorial staff," and is developed "from press releases, announcements and contributor content."
You seem to be concentrating on "finding" articles, but that's not how Wikipedia articles work and is an example of WP:BACKWARDS. The proper way to go about things is to start with the sources, and then write the article base on the sources. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 08:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please fix your WP: SIGNATURE, so that it shows and links to your user name. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Voting in ArbCom elections

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Hello there, how can I vote in ArbCom elections? But, how could I vote if the voting is not visible on wiki and from a different site? Why are these votes often scrutinized and checked? How does it work though? What is the reason on why it is not seen visibly unlike other voting processes? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:5-minute guide to ArbCom elections, which explains a lot. -- Hoary (talk) 08:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. In order to vote in ArbCom elections, you must register an account and make at least 150 edits with that account. IP editors cannot participate in ArbCom elections. The voting process is scrutinized and checked to ensure fairness and accuracy. If you register an account and make over 150 edits on a timely basis, the next election will be visible to you. Cullen328 (talk) 08:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328 @Hoary But would voting be on wiki or off wiki? I don’t see where voting takes place, since I don’t see them. 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
IP editor. Didn't you read the page that Hoary linked? The voting procedure is explained at Wikipedia:5-minute guide to ArbCom elections#Voting process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did. Is it like AfDs? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 15:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, ArbCom elections are an entirely different process than AfDs. Arbcom elections are conducted using a special software tool called SecurePoll. Cullen328 (talk) 16:23, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You haven't seen how voting for ArbCom is done because you don't have a registered account. Voting for ArbCom is a very visible process for registered editors. Do something useful rather than wasting your time asking questions to which the answer is registering an account. Oh. I almost forgot. You probably do have a registered blocked account. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse serving tea

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Can the Teahouse serve tea? What pastries does this serve guests for? Cookies or biscuits? What kind of tea you can give me? Would you give me tea please? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:18, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can enjoy whatever you can imagine or physically have on hand. I just finished a cup of Red Zinger and a Dark Chocolate KIND Bar. Cullen328 (talk) 08:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328 Cool, what kind of taste does this serve? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can imagine whatever taste you want. Cullen328 (talk) 08:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328 Yes, that’s good. I just wanted a green tea or a honey tea, as I would like. @331dot, @Tarlby, and @Hoary, wanna join in serving tea? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone here? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 18:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotected Jimbo Wales talk page

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Is there a way to unprotect Jimbo Wales talk page? When will this protection expire? And why is this still protected indefinitely? Where can I leave messages, if he will never respond to me? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:58, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you can realize that many people want to talk to Mr. Wales, not all of them for the right reasons. Please see his user talk page for instructions on contacting him, though. 331dot (talk) 09:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When will he reply to IPs if he barely active? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:53, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Jimbo responds on his own schedule when he finds the question or comment interesting. He may be the best known Wikipedian, but he is just a volunteer. Cullen328 (talk) 16:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Registering an account has various advantages, including the ability to post to a semi-protected talk page. Jimbo Wales talk page has been semi-protected for five years because it was a magnet for trolls. Continuing requests by unregistered editors that it is time to unprotect it indicate that it is probably a good idea to leave it semi-protected. However, asking about posting to Jimbo Wales's talk page, and then expressing irritation at being unable to do so, seems to indicate that the poster misunderstands the role of Jimbo Wales in Wikipedia in 2025. There is a myth that Jimbo Wales runs Wikipedia, which he did twenty years ago. He has turned it over to a foundation and a community of volunteers. You could do what you want to do, that is, post to his talk page, if you registered an account, and you would still just be expressing an opinion. Try doing something useful instead of complaining about the inability to post useless anonymous comments. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a specific reason you want to speak to Jimmy Wales? You could post what you want to say to him here, and if we find it important or useful, we could post it to his talk page, quoting this thread. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They may want him to unblock their blocked registered account. They may not know that he isn't in the business of unblocking accounts that were blocked by administrators in accordance with community process. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My Profile writing in Wikipedia - Request for guidance - Reg.

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I am VS Balajee. I would like my Profile to be updated in Wikipedia as I am mentoring a lot of Software Firms at free of cost. Can any one guide me in the procedss VS Balajee (talk) 09:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @VS Balajee, and welcome to the Teahouse.
If Wikipedia has an article about you (which is not a "profile", as it does not belong to you and is not controlled by you) then you should not edit it, and instead you should submit edit requests for changes - noting that unless any information you wish to add is supported by reliable published sources wholly independent of you, it is unlikely to be added.
I don't find an article with "Balajee" in the title, so I'm guessing that we do not have an article about you at present, and you mean that you want your "profile" to appear in Wikipedia. If that is the case, please understand that promotion of any kind is not permitted in Wikipedia, and Wikipedia can have an article about you only if you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability - which most of us do not.
Your mention of "as I am mentoring a lot of Software Firms at free of cost" strongly implies that your purpose is to promote your services (Wikipedia uses "promotion" to mean "telling the world about something" and does not distinguish commercial from non-commercial purposes). Please find other outlets to tell the world about your services. ColinFine (talk) 09:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Social Media not a reliable source

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Why isn’t social media a reliable source, and what happens if you cite them as a source? Why it needs to be from both academic and independent sources instead of just social network platforms? Examples of social media not being a reliable source. 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP user. Social media is not generally a reliable source, because anybody can say anything about anything on social media. There are certain limited cases where social media can be used - see WP:SPS ColinFine (talk) 09:59, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, what about Wikipedia and other library books? 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 15:05, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not consider itself a reliable source. Books may or may not be reliable; it all depends on the book in question. Writ Keeper  15:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Writ Keeper Are physical books easy to cite, compared to online? Do Wikipedians and users read them for learning something new? I see a point in citing them for articles. 2600:387:F:6118:0:0:0:1 (talk) 19:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For examples, see Fake news and The Disinformation Project, for starters. Shantavira|feed me 10:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Advice on citing sources, and factual information that lacks "reputable" sources even if known to be true

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My initial grievance: here (sorry for repeating a question, I just figured it’s more likely to be answered nicely here). Sorry if this is a long one

Context: I tried to edit the "Members" section of the Ghost (Swedish band) page and it was reverted due to poor quality sources. The reverted (current) version is out of date, but due to the nature of the band (the singer is the "one constant member", musicians are just hired for touring, the musicians don’t often talk about their identities due to former anonymity) it is near impossible to get quality sources in relation to changes in the lineup. The way we, as fans, know about changes in the lineup is almost solely through observation, it’s never "announced". And so the lineup has changed yet again and the reason we know this is because:

a) Keyboardist announced via social media that she was going to focus on her solo career, she is evidently absent from the current tour and is actively working in the US right now (Problem: can only cite social media, which is apparently discouraged and editors may disregard it without consideration)

b) Fans/concert attendees have confirmed the replacement/presence/absence of specific members (Problem: nowhere to source from/word-of-mouth, only confirmed through pictures posted by the band, again on social media)

c) Insider info (Problem: also via social media, citation was disregarded without consideration)

Sooo I tried to bring the article up to date and because of the lack of sources, it was rejected. My question is essentially: How am I meant to bring articles like this up to date without proper sources being available? Leaving them as is feels like misinformation because it’s so outdated but it’ll just be reverted if can’t back it up and idk what to do! Is.not.here (talk) 10:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting Review and Suggestions – Draft:Information Security Education and Awareness Project

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I’ve created a draft article titled (Draft:Information Security Education and Awareness Project) It’s about a public initiative focused on promoting information security awareness and education. I would appreciate it if someone could review the draft and provide feedback or suggestions on how I can improve it to meet Wikipedia’s notability and style guidelines. Thank you! Yoursfriend (talk) 10:48, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yoursfriend, your draft cites many sources, but the ones I've checked don't qualify as independent of the subject. Which three of the sources do most, in your opinion, to establish that the subject is wikinotable?   Maproom (talk) 13:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback. I agree that many sources about ISEA are official or affiliated. However, the following three sources do the most to independently establish the project's notability:
  1. The Times of India
  2. ECB Bikaner (Engineering College Bikaner)
    • ISEA at ECB
    • As an independent academic institution, ECB Bikaner references ISEA’s objectives and best practices, showing the project’s adoption and influence outside its own consortium.
  3. ERNET India (with International Collaboration)
    • Information Security Education & Awareness (ISEA)
    • This source documents ISEA’s collaborative training programs with international partners (such as ITU and Malaysia University of Science and Technology), and lists participation from a broad range of Indian public sector organizations, demonstrating institutional and international recognition.
These sources are independent of ISEA’s core team and directly support the project’s national impact, adoption by outside institutions, and recognition in the media and international community. Yoursfriend (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, are you using an LLM such as ChatGPT in any way? If so, I strongly encourage that you don't and explain why those sources are notable in your own words. In addition, if you are using AI to write your draft as well, it is unlikely to ever be accepted. Currently, it has a very promotional tone that needs to be fixed. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 16:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback. I have revised the draft to remove promotional language and ensure a neutral, fact-based tone throughout. I have also prioritized independent, secondary sources to support the article’s statements, and I have addressed challenges and limitations for balance. Please let me know if any further adjustments are needed. Yoursfriend (talk) 04:40, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Have I done the right thing?

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Hello everyone, Hopefully, all of you are doing great. I created a page of Mario Nawfal, however, it was in my opinion, was vandalized by [[User:ElinaN19]]. I have reverted his/her edits, and commented on the talk page (User talk:ElinaN19). Can anyone please check if I have done the right thing or not? and if there is any room for improvement. Thank you. RaynorRaider (talk) 12:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RaynorRaider, I see no evidence of vandalism, and encourage you to withdraw that accusation. You are in a content dispute, which is better discussed on the article's talk page, rather then here. Maproom (talk) 13:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawing. Thank you for your input. RaynorRaider (talk) 02:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Further to the above reply, please follow the process described at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok Thank you. RaynorRaider (talk) 02:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a Biography for an Individual

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How do i publish a biography on wikipedia for a person? Silvanussa (talk) 13:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Your first article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot cite quote

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When quoting, I have to use refname to cite quotes.

I have no idea how to find the refname of my citation (On the Killing of Jean Charles de Menezes, involvement of special forces). pls help. Thanks! BillyTheConqueror (talk) 14:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you mean about "I have to use refname to cite quotes", but a "refname" is a name that you (or a tool) assigns to a particular reference for the purposes of the article. See WP:NAMEDREF.
It's possible that what you are talking about is Harvard referencing, which I know nothing about. See WP:CEFC. ColinFine (talk) 17:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Named references are so the citation can be re-used in the same article without copy/pasting the entire citation. Will this source be cited more than once in the same article? The editor citing the resource will create an arbitrary (but helpful) name. Naming limitations can be found here. Basically your template for citation will be the citation wrapped by a ref name, and a template for the reference page(s) referenced, something like this for pages 5-6: <ref name="SmithA1">{{cite...}}</ref>{{rp|pp=5-6}}. Then, the next reference for a quote on page 10 will be {{r|SmithA1|p=10}}. If there are no relevant page numbers, I have used {{r|SmithA1|p=n}}, but I can't find the reference for that, sorry. Just Al (talk) 18:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BillyTheConqueror In this case, I think an edit like this would work: ::{{blockquote|QUOTE{{r|IPCC: StockwellOne|p=28}}}} ::
You don't need the page number mentioned before the quote. You don't need quotes in a block/indented quote, because the formatting already implies it's a quotation. Just Al (talk) 20:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BillyTheConqueror I pasted in that change. See if that fixed it. Just Al (talk) 20:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a page.

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I have created a page for an artist and clicked publish, is that it uploaded or is there checks? It hasn't come up on other devices Smith29127 (talk) 15:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to Draft:Holly_Nicholson? Make sure you click publish, looks you since then have. Cwater1 (talk) 15:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Smith29127. You "published" the edit to the page, but it has not actually been created as an article. Please submit the draft (with the template at the top of the page) so an experienced editor can evaluate it and choose to publish or not. They will give feedback. Tarlby (t) (c) 15:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Smith29127, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia.
A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what several people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish in reliable sources, and very little else. None of your citations is to anything resembling that description, and so, in Wikipedia's terms, your draft is unsupported by citations, and will not be accepted.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's a draft -- it won't show up in main article space. Mrfoogles (talk) 15:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you need to search a draft from the search bar, Just search in the following formatting:
Draft: (draft name)
So in your case, you would need to search Draft:Holly_Nicholson.
Articles do not show up in the mainspace until not in the Draft space. Cooldudeseven7 talk/contribs 16:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How can I know if someone is reviewing the draft?

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I put {{subst:submit}} at the top of my article. How will I know if it worked? Elliott G10 (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Found the button! Elliott G10 (talk) 18:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reference list vanishing

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Hello!

I tried to edit a Wikipedia article, but whenever I attempted to add a citation, all of the other citations in the references list vanished as soon as I created one (even if I didn't edit it at all). The citations were still visible throughout the article, but they were entirely purged from the reference list. This was in the visual editor as I'm new to Wikipedia.

Is this just a cosmetic glitch in the visual editor? How do I prevent/stop this?

Thanks! Reverosie (talk) 18:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You position the references throughout the text, attached to the sentences they support. The "reflist" command makes the references appear to be in a neat list at the end, but there isn't anything actually there.
Does that help you understand? DS (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That’s what I was trying to do. Whenever I tried to add a citation next to a new sentence, the reference list at the bottom would vanish Reverosie (talk) 20:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to the Teahouse, Reverosie. Yes, this can happen when a reference contains a formatting error - I've seen this happen more than once where all or part of the references fail to be displayed. Trying to fix it with the visual editor is probably going to be tough; one would need to look at the source for the reference to see where there is a mis-matched set of brackets or something like that. An unclosed HTML comment is also a possibly reason.
Because of the way the references are handled, the error only affects the reference list at the end - far away from the place in the source code that is causing the problem - so these can be tricky to track down. If you pointed to the article where you experienced the problem, another editor with more experience looking at the source can probably straighten things out. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 02:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
Thank you for the detailed reply! Here's the article in question in case somebody could help: Baldwin IV of Jerusalem. I'm not sure how to use the source editor since I'm brand new to Wikipedia, so hopefully somebody else could take a look :) Reverosie (talk) 02:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reverosie That article uses short citations. I don't know whether the VE even knows how to deal with those (my ignorance, I'm not a VE user nor am I expert at any of the short citation styles).
Source editing is not all that hard to figure out. At least, take a look at the source to see how those citations are made and try to copy how it is done. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 03:17, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for the reply! I'll see what I can do. Reverosie (talk) 03:35, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One template documentation page used on multiple templates?

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Hi! Template:AI-generated/doc is used on both Template:AI-generated and Template:AI-generated inline. Some of its text seems to be made to change depending on which template it's being used on, but a lot of it isn't, even where it only applies to one of the templates.

For example, the "Template:ChatGPT" redirects here text appears on both templates, Template:AI-generated inline#How to use has incorrect instructions (saying to place it at the top of the article, rather than after the suspicious sentence), and the example in that section uses {{Template:AI-generated}} even though it's on Template:AI-generated inline.

I'm not sure what to do about it, but could someone please fix that? Thanks! 2A00:807:D3:B2CD:7445:39E3:B45E:3EE3 (talk) 19:05, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Anne Applebaum

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In the Career section of the article on Anne Applebaum, two boxes titled "Video Links" duplicate a standard external link (to C-Span) at the end of the article. Should these video boxes be retained? Pac Veten (talk) 19:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pac Veten, I suppose that the idea of the editor(s) who provided the boxes was that the boxes should appear close to the description/mention in the body text of the books/issues/whatever that Applebaum discusses in the total of three videos that are linked to in those boxes. This arrangement is unusual in Wikipedia (usually taken as a minus), though I suppose it's helpful (a plus). The three videos presumably -- I confess that I didn't check -- can be found linked to from that C-Span page (or its continuation) that's one of the external links at the foot of the article. However, that C-Span page (with its continuation) links to a lot more than three of Applebaum's videos. I can understand how you'd think that something about this isn't entirely satisfactory; however, nothing about it strikes me as worrisome. So I'm disinclined to make any change (but open-minded about changes made by others). Uh ... if you'd like to improve this article (which already is pretty good), then I suggest attending to the references currently described simply as "Blob". (Did an editor perhaps intend these descriptions as temporary placeholders but then get distracted by other matters and forget about them?) -- Hoary (talk) 07:03, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

pop ups

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How do I get rid of the pop-ups when navigating over a link. I don't have an account and don't really want to create one just to get the page to display properly. 207.68.112.138 (talk) 20:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This feature is called Page Previews. Does mw:Page_Previews#Logged-Out_Users help? If it doesn't work, you can also try using CSS to set display: none. Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 20:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bringing in German Wikipedia article into US version

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How can I add a translation of https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Laves into the US edition? TheMongoose47 (talk) 20:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Content translation tool can assist you in translating existing Wikipedia articles. Help:Your first article may also be of use. Further, this is the English Wikipedia it isn't exclusive to the USA. Louis (talk) (contribs) 20:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TheMongoose47 Your main problem will not be the translation but the need to show how this individual is notable in the quirky way that is defined in the English Wikipedia. The German article has very little in the way of suitable sources. Please read this essay. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:07, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mr. Turnbull, Thank you for your comment and I would agree that the German article is light. I have not decided whether to proceed with an English Wikipedia entry but for context, Kurt Laves was a very early astronomer in the US and was the mentor of Edwin Hubble's (space telescope); Walter Sydney Adams (Mt. Wilson Observatory); Forest Ray Moulton and others. He is also among other things, the direct descendant of Charlotte Kestner who was Lotte in Goethe's semi-autobiographical novel "The Sorrows of Young Werther" and his son Walter HC Laves was, among other things, heavily involved in the formation of the UN and was deputy director of UNESCO from 1947 to 1950. Kurt Laves was my grandfather and so I wondered how I could prepare a Wikipedia article on him but I thought that a starting point would be to import in the German Wikipedia article and add links to other related Wikipedia pages in the expectation that others would further contribute. And as a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago, anything that I added would be well referenced. I do believe such a Wikipedia article would be more useful than some of the other self-serving items that I occasionally come across on Wikipedia. TheMongoose47 (talk) 21:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TheMongoose47, I second Mike Turnbull's comment. Kurt Laves may or may not be notable (according to en:Wikipedia's understanding of notability): I haven't started to look. If he isn't, no article can be created. If he is, then work from the available sources for his achievements as an astronomer, of course citing these sources as you do so. (His position in a family tree does not help to make him notable.) Yes, en:Wikipedia has a lot of articles that are more or less terrible (and if you encounter them only occasionally, you're lucky). Let's not increase their number. -- Hoary (talk) 22:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was only being courteous when I used the word occasionally. Despite that, I use Wikipedia frequently and therefore feel an obligation to give moderate donations annually. On a different point, years ago I edited a truly lousy article on another academic in my field and though much of my edits were accepted, I came away feeling like the unidentified moderator was unnecessarily arrogant, judgemental and he was actually ill informed about the field. As a result that I decided not to try again. Today's experience felt better but similar. I would suggest that Wikipedia would benefit from being more welcoming and polite to contributors. TheMongoose47 (talk) 22:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of Pakistani news broadcast channel, GTV News (Pakistan)to Wikipedia.

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I want to add a Pakistani news broadcast channel, GTV News (Pakistan), to Wikipedia. Kumailabbasseo (talk) 21:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Kumailabbasseo, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia.
In most cases, the only way to "add something to Wikipedia" is to write a well-sourced and neutral encyclopaedia article about the subject.
This is an exciting and rewarding thing to do; but it is challenging, especially for new editors, and is probably very different from anything you've ever done before.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 22:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Hi, I'm new here and trying to learn more about Wikipedia. I was wondering, how do you know that anything on Wikipedia is *true*?"

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"Hi, I'm new here and trying to learn more about Wikipedia. I was wondering, how do you know that anything on Wikipedia is *true*?" Bee6680213 (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Bee6680213. It looks like you've copied and pasted your question from someone else's question. There should be answers there. Tarlby (t) (c) 21:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The content is sourced with secondary sources. Sources make that we can verify. Anatole-berthe (talk) 21:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Quite recently, I encountered two extremely serious errors. One error that had been added very recently provided misinformation about medication that could potentially result in death. I fixed that one. The other error gave misinformation about the law, which potentially could result in a 15-year prison sentence for someone who relied on that. An IP editor added that piece of misinformation over 10 years ago. BTW, chatgpt will provide the same misinformation if you ask it the right way. I've left that error in place. You might think they would have some process to ensure such edits get checked, but as you now know, that's not the case. Fabrickator (talk) 22:29, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who is "they"? HiLo48 (talk) 02:45, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to the Teahouse, Bee6680213. How do you know anything is true? This is not merely a question about Wikipedia. If you ask Wikipedia users, we will readily agree that Wikipedia is not itself a reliable source, for several reasons. First, anyone can edit and you may catch an article at a time when someone with an axe to grind or simply vandalize has changed the reading to something untrue and unverified. Second, the verifiability policy means that we try to refer readers to sources that are considered reliable but often those sources fail to provide truth. This reliance on external reporting means that biases in that reporting will also show up as bias in Wikipedia articles.
The collective action of thousands of editors will tend to drive the content towards something resembling truth, but a reader wanting to know the real truth about a subject will still have to look at the references and make up their own mind. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 02:39, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think Wikipedia is worthless. That is the nicest way I can put it. There's a huge amount of information, there's a lot less "hype" than you might get from a straight web search. And (for better or worse) there's a certain "level" of plausibility (though this is perhaps the most dangerous aspect. ... If a random website says something is true, you might be skeptical, but if Wikipedia says it, then you're likely to accept that it's probably true.)
The ability to check citations is of somewhat questionable usefulness. Sources are not required to be online, and if they are online, they're not required to be free. Now if it's something that has no practical effect if it's right or wrong, then these objections are not especially valid. I identified a couple of very serious errors (in terms of potential for harm) within about a week, and I'm not going around searching for errors or even looking at more than just a handful or articles. One error had just been inserted a couple of days before I discovered it, and I fixed it. The other has been there for ten years, but I chose just to note the error on the article talk page. I would suggest that the notion that all these editors have the effect of "driving content towards the truth" is perhaps a dangerous one. Fabrickator (talk) 04:56, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not a single source is perfect with 100% true You can click on a random guy's blog and get the same false information as you may find on Wikipedia. Obvious vandalism and disruptive editing on popular articles are almost instantly reverted, but on more niche articles, having the skills to spot misinformation can be useful DankPedia (talk) 06:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The whole point is that this is not some random guy's blog ... Wikipedia is supposed to be better, because it supposedly cites reliable sources and there are other editors looking over these edits made by other members of the Wikipedia community, all in an effort to maintain its accuracy. What I'm saying is that this can be delusional. Erroneous content gets added, whether done maliciously or not, and the reality is that nobody takes responsibility for the result. Fabrickator (talk) 09:39, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:TRUTH. We don't claim that anything presented is the truth. We're only as good as the people who choose to help and have the time to invest in poring over the millions of articles to make sure they accurately summarize the sources provided. 331dot (talk) 09:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SASS Where is Donation button?

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While I have donated to WIKI before I am having trouble finding the "Donate" button again :-( :-( :-( ----MountVic127 (talk) 22:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it's here - https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MountVic127 You might be interested to first read up on Wikipedia finances. Shantavira|feed me 08:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Crossed out edits

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Why are some edits crossed out? Is it a copyright thing?

--pro-anti-air (talk) 02:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Pro-anti-air. STRIKEOUT markup is used on talk and discussion pages when a user needs to change what they said, but enough time has elapsed that it would be a problem to simply remove or edit over the relevant text. You would, for instance, use it when someone has already responded, so as to keep the context of what they were responding to. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 02:27, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean in the View history tab, some edits are crossed out and cannot be viewed.
--pro-anti-air (talk) 02:39, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, those ones are edits/revisions that have been deleted or suppressed, generally for legal or safety reasons. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 02:46, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Pro-anti-air copyright violations are just one reason certain edits will have been made unavailable to view. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 03:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will I be banned?

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Just a quick one. Will I be banned for having this signature? User:Sackool (usapan tayo!) 04:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That one is particularly annoying, but I've seen far worse, so my answer to your question is probably not. best, Roxy the dog 04:06, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The guidelines for signatures state "A customised signature should make it easy to identify your username, but this is not required." and "A distracting, confusing, or otherwise unsuitable signature may adversely affect other users." So it's not a santionable offence, but bear in mind that if somebody finds it confusing and asks you to change it, you should do so. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm new here and trying to learn more about Wikipedia. I was wondering, how do you know that anything on Wikipedia is *true*?

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hi Jirapatch Pruksanusak (talk) 04:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jirapatch Pruksanusak This same question was asked and answered a few topics above. Please check out those answers and ask again if you have more questions. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 05:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does this article satisfy NPOV

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Modifications have been made to this article. I feel it is written in NPOV, but since I wrote it, I would like to get other opinions from others. DankPedia (talk) 06:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's already at AfD. -- Hoary (talk) 07:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]