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A disagreement has arisen regarding whether the Egyptian Arabic template should be applied to names of dishes in Egyptian cuisine articles, especially when the spelling does not differ from Standard Arabic. If I have misrepresented a position, please clarify below.
Editors are invited to comment on the following two options: Option 1: Use Egyptian Arabic template only when the spelling of the name explicitly does not conform to Standard Arabic orthography The supporter of this view argues that using the Egyptian Arabic template when the term conforms to Standard Arabic orthography and lexicology can be considered nationalistic advocacy. They maintain that the template should be reserved for cases where the term is clearly in vernacular Egyptian Arabic, but that Standard Arabic should take precedence in cases where the two overlap, even if its within the context of Egyptian Arabic. Option 2: Use Egyptian Arabic template regardless of overlap with Standard Arabic (due to shared usage within Egyptian Arabic) The supporter of this view argues that the Egyptian Arabic template is appropriate for labeling culinary items and varieties in Egyptian culture, even if those forms, within the context of Egyptian Arabic, partially or fully overlap with Standard Arabic. He notes that many culinary items have entirely different nomenclature across other Arabic dialects, and as such, their designation as Egyptian Arabic in Egyptian contexts is necessary for linguistic and cultural precision. He notes that even when there is lexilogical similarities Egyptian Arabic has a broader orthographic tolerance than Standard Arabic, often allowing standard and non-standard spellings more capable of reflecting local pronunciation and usage. Thus the template can better reflect these localized forms, as they are recognizable to Egyptian speakers. Turnopoems 𓋹 ✎ 12:12, 2 July 2025 (UTC) |
Should James Barry be referred to with male pronouns? Tanline666 (talk) 14:43, 13 June 2025 (UTC) |