Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Weltforce

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Weltforce

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RfA of Weltforce

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End date: 23:27, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, everybody. I would like to nominate myself for adminship.

About me: I must state that I have been working here anonymously a long way back – here and there I fixed some typos, added some sources etc. Not very big and significant edits at all. But I became interested in this Wiki two months ago, when I unintentionally clicked an Interwiki link towards here. It was really fascinating me. I thought that a simple English Wikipedia should be very useful for English-learning people – and therefore also for me. This is why I decided to become more active here. After a few weeks, I really became more excited. You know, here's an working atmosphere that my former homewiki – de.wikipedia – didn't have, not now and not hereafter. Editors were really kind to each other—and to me. The working climate was more relaxed. So I decided to leave the German Wikipedia (where I had been more than 1,5 years with around 3,000 contribs) to spend more time here. I will never forget what Simple English Wikipedia's target is: the mediation of easy-to-understand knowledge. That's why I spent and will spend more than a half of my time and contributions in the Article namespace. But a wiki also relies on organisation and maintenance. I believe that writing and improving articles are very important factors; but I also believe that maintaining is also important. Maintenance can rely on templates to keep organisation. That's why templates are so important. And because I'm a (addicted) hobby programmer, you can and will see me editing in the template namespace. Programming is an unique thing of controlling things – and that is why I'm so interested in HTML, CSS, Java Script etc.

Why Admin? Well, you don't need administrator rights for creating/editing articles or templates—work that I'm focusing on. So they aren't necessary—but useful. You know, quick deletion requests or admin requests aren't handled as fast as we all wish they could to. Additional manpower cannot harm anything. Every admin action I handle will relieve other admins—and enhance the workflow. My goal is to be another helping hand here—a small cog in the big mechanism of Wikipedia. Kind regards, weltforce (talk) 23:27, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate's acceptance: yes per self-nomination

Questions for candidate

Q: A user has just created an article which already exists under another title. What would be the appropriate action? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: It depends which article is better. If the old article was better, I would inform the user friendly and create a redirect from the new article. If the new article is better, I would create a redirect from the old article (dependent which title is better) and inform the user who wrote the old article. --weltforce (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Q: Is it ever okay to close an WP:RFD discussion in which you have expressed an opinion? If so, when? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: It is okay when the discussion has reached consensus, independent from my own opinion. An administrator must respect the opinion of the community. But if the discussion doesn't display consensus, it is appropriate that a admin who stands on a neutral point closes the RfD. --weltforce (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Q: When would you block a registered user without warning? Would you ever block an IP address without warning? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: Generally, the banning process should follow first warning -> second warning -> final warning -> ban. But in extraordinary extreme cases, where the user or IP does things like stalking, heavy insulting or really "hard" things like murder threats, it is ok if the users gets direct banning without notification. But if the concerning user is a active contributor here, I would first message him anyway. --weltforce (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Q: An editor has tagged a new article for quick deletion as a copyright violation, giving a link to a website from where the article has been copied word-for-word. The website, however, is another wiki (e.g., wikia.com). Would you delete the article? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: It can be the case, that the main contributor on Wikia was the same as the one who created the article. I would write to the author and ask him wether he/she is the main contributor. If he/she denies or doesn't reply, the article should be deleted as an copyright violation. --weltforce (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Q: How would you respond to this unblock request? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: Any unblock request should be handled, independet from the presumable conclusion. I would handle the process and give a reasoning why the request has to be declined. --weltforce (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Q: What is the difference between a policy and a guideline? How much do policies on other wikipedias apply to this wiki? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: The real difference is obscure. But the main difference would be that breaking policies would get you blocked, so the tell you what you may always do, not like a guideline, which makes optional suggestions (although they should be taken seriously). Any Wikipedia has its own guidelines and policies, except maybe the Foundation's polices. So for example polling is allowed in the German Wikipedia; on most wikis not. It is always recommend to read the basic guideline and policy pages here. --weltforce (talk) 09:54, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Q: In what situations, if any, would it be acceptable for you to use administrative tools to end a revert war between yourself and another user? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: If an edit-war wents on, the article should be protected to carry the discussion forward. I would only use the administrative tools to protect the page (as any other admin will do) and start the discussion. --weltforce (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A: To get to the other side. ^^ --weltforce (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support

~~Support~~ fantastic user.--TheAnnoymousUser (talk) 16:58, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator note: Sorry, but you are not eligible to vote because your account was created after this request was made. You're welcome to make comments though. Osiris (talk) 07:21, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great user. --Vogone (talk) 17:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Sorry, Oppose. You are relatively new to this project, and while I see quite some good work, I see no immediate need for the admin tools. Just as a note, some people, including myself, dislike canvassing, such as posting links to this RfA on IRC... Savh·^{Tell me} 23:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really sorry. These sort of things will not happen again. But I just was curious because I didn't think many people got WP:Request for permissions on their watchlist. Apologizing once more... --weltforce (talk) 23:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I wondered how two users with so few edits came to comment here. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, he worked in the German Wikipedia before, but retired (halfway? [or not?]). However, I don't think I will vote, beause here, I don't know much about the standards, so I won't, sorry Weltforce. Greets, Lukas²³ ^talk in German 05:35, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Vogone is from de.wikipedia. "TheAnnoymousUser" isn't and I don't know him, either. Lukas²³ ^talk in German 05:37, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The canvassing issue did it for me. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:54, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Far too soon. Although we do need worker bees, we do not need more administrators. This whole business of people coming to this wiki, and immediately putting up articles for GA/VGA and proposing themselves for adminship: it all smacks of ego-polishing. And canvassing is obscene. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I don't think you've been here long enough yet. What I would say is that you are on the right lines. Keep on doing what you're doing and if there was a next time I'd probably support. Also, to be honest the answers to the questions aren't great, you should have taken some time to answer them fully, or not at all. Half-answered questions give the idea that you don't actually know the full answer, even if you do. Kennedy ^(talk) 12:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

~~I'm on the fence.~~ You haven't been here very long. We can't really take the IP edits into account since we can't identify them. You have done some good things for the infrastructure, but they aren't things you need to be an admin for. I guess I'd like to see you comment on admin actions you've seen here: what did you agree with, what did you disagree with, what would you do the same, what would you do differently? Under what circumstances would you decline to take an administrative action that an editor asked for? --Auntof6 (talk) 19:26, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Auntof6. You really haven't been here for long (just a month) and have a mere 25 QD requests and 3 VIP reports (unless I've missed some, in which case I apologise). I think this comes a bit too early but I will wait and see what some other editors think first. -Mh7kJ (talk) 19:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. I will try to be more active in admin's affairs (like AfD etc.). --weltforce (talk) 20:20, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my goodness, I really like you, weltforce, but I think this is a little...too soon. Your work here is very nice, and helpful, and appreciated, but I wish you had waited some more before you nominated yourself. Being an admin isn't all about the tools; it's also about trust, that the community can truly give. I'm not going to oppose yet, but it is an issue to think over. Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 05:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I really wish you'd gotten settled in a bit more before running for adminship. Your enthusiasm to make this project better is a great asset, you have a good knowledge of the technical side of things and you seem extremely mature and level-headed. So I'm sure you'd use the tools well. At the moment, though, I think there might be some of us who are not familiar with your practice of policies and guidelines — your knowledge of the parts that are clear and your take on the parts that aren't so clear. I've posted some optional questions for you (you don't have to answer them all), so that you can demonstrate your knowledge, judgement and character, or learn something instead. Osiris (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good questions! That was exactly my opinion as well, I wasn't very familiar with weltforce's knowledge and abilities. I'm going to consider again after I see the answers. :) Also... Why did the chicken cross the road? XD I so love Osiris! Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 09:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it were a duck we'd have an answer! :) Kennedy ^(talk) 12:38, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your reviews and opinions. I have now realised that I have not been here very long enough for adminship. Maybe I will request adminship in a few months again and I'll make sure that I'll take care of your critism. But now please abort this RfA. --weltforce (talk) 12:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above adminship discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.