Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Moxy
- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a request for adminship that did not succeed. Please do not modify it.
Scheduled to end 05:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC) Candidate has withdrawn. Final (5/6/6); ended 18:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC) - -- DQ (t) (e) 18:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]
Nomination
[edit]Moxy (talk · contribs) – has been on Wikipedia since January 2009 and has over 48,000 edits to a wide variety of areas, no blocks nor any evidence of any major conflicts. For well rounded tenured editors with no prior obvious reasons to believe they will misuse admin tools, I am supportive of admin rights being given since adminship is no big deal. I first ran into Moxy at the September 11 attacks talk page, where Moxy waded into new territory well known for its high intensity discussions yet maintained a cool composure [1], [2], [3]. (It should be noted that Moxy and I disagree with each other in regards to this issue.) Moxy has been active at deletion discussions and especially Portals and in WikiProject development through WikiProject Council. Moxy is particular helpful in articles related to Canada and recognizes others good work [4]. I can't see any reason Moxy shouldn't be trusted with adminship.MONGO 02:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
User talk:Moxy#Admin?Moxy (talk) 05:34, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I withdraw my nomination
Thank you all for you time!!! I am somewhat glad to see that the only real concerns people have is with my grammar/spelling. Disappointing that this is such a concern and will be something I will have to over come. Did not realizes that people have/had a problem understanding the broken English I utilizes. Good to see that people don't have a problem with the way I conduct myself with our editors and my contributions to the encyclopedia’s main space in-general. Overall this was a little embarrassing, however will aid me in the way I type in talk in the future. Moxy (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Questions for the candidate
[edit]Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:
- 1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
- A: Well to be honest i have no set plans (as this is something that has recently been suggested to me)- I guess i will work on backlog stuff and edit request to locked pages/templates, until i am MUCH more familiar with this tool and its subsequent responsibilities. I plan to simply evolve with this tool has i have with Wikipedia its self. I take things step by step and have no plans to jump in on blocks and other things of the nature until i am more knowledgeable on the overall effects of this types of actions. Moxy (talk) 05:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- 2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
- A: My most recent article i have completed would be Canadians (GA1). That said i am most proud of my collaborative work i (buzzshearman back then) did in 2009 with User:SriMesh on Aboriginal peoples in Canada (GA2). This collaborative work (first one for me) is what got me to get much more involed with Wikipedia. Through that GA process i learned alot - and subsequently have tried to help newbies as User:SriMesh did with me (i.e. Talk:HealthLinkBC and Talk:Danny Williams (politician)/GA1). My field in real life (i am retired now) was genetics - thus i have also written articles like Genetic history of indigenous peoples of the Americas just because there was a need - but this subject advances so fast that i think my knowledge is falling behind so have moved on to articles like History of Canada. I also help projects with formatting, creating portals and help pages like with Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/Help. Moxy (talk) 05:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- A: I dont let things bug me..i am here for my personal enjoyment of spreading knowledge (I think this whole concept is amazing and never though i would see such a thing in my life time). I have had no real problems my self i guess as i generally seek opinions if things start to get ruff. I am currently trying to solve a problem at Talk:Nickelback#On going problems despite my efforts [5], [6] it has moved to a Sockpuppet case. I do like to debate as with Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard/Archive 6#Find a Grave and Imbd. Overall this is a hard question for me as i dont edit war and try not to let things stress me out. There are a few editors i have had some conflicts with and generally disagree with there approach to things - but this has not led to any real problems just talks with good debates and an understanding there are many views and different ways to approach things. So to sum up - i like to talk things out and seek opinions - I truly believe that as a community things can be resolved. No editor or admin is all powerfully and the common sense of the community will and should prevail. Talk:The Beatles#Template removals Moxy (talk) 05:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional question from Mtking
- 4. On your user page here you state you have edited using three accounts and various IPs, are you willing to disclose the names of the other accounts and if not have they been disclosed to the Arbitration Committee and in relation to IP editing, when did you last edit this way (accidental not-logged-in excepted)
- A: I have np disclosing all (well not my Visa number ) was User:Lucifers hammer with my son (15 at the time) and my wife - this is were a learned wiki coding and etiquette (did not realizes many should not edit from one account - thus its hard to say what is mine or not as in way of edits). The account was abandoned due to lost of the PC its self (i realy cant prove this as my son has long forgotten the password). We moved to a third world country late in 2007 and the internet was not a priority for us until we got back to Canada in 2009. I used the name "Buzzzsherman" until 2010 when I got a name usurpation request to Moxy. As for the various IP this is simply due to not logging in from home or from a friends house etc.Moxy (talk) 07:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Follow-on question from Kudpung
- 5. Would that explain your abrubt stop in editing your creation Don Coleman (musician) (107 edits) at 18:00,on 15 January 2009 which was followed 14 minutes later by User:99.246.128.164 at the same editing cadence (41 edits) at 18:14, on 15 January 2009, and why you never edited the article again as Moxy?
- A: This article was made because of a request at WP:Canada in 2009. Its more then possible that 99.246.128.164 was me not logging in. Reason I stop editing the page was I have no real interest in the subject. Moxy (talk) 08:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional optional question from Reaper Eternal (talk)
- 6. Would you be willing to copyedit an article in need of basic copyediting and provide a link to the difference you made? You can find one in Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit. (You don't need beat yourself over the head with this, as all I want to see is whether you can communicate effectively when you need to.)
- A:
On hold Sure no problem, however this may take a day or so as I have family obligations this weekend. My time is limited and was only prepared to answer questions this weekend not edit extensively.Moxy (talk) 16:03, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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General comments
[edit]- Links for Moxy: Moxy (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
- Edit summary usage for Moxy can be found here.
- User stats posted to talk page
Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.
Discussion
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Support
[edit]- Support. I see a good, level-headed, mature Wikipedian who I think will handle admin tasks without drama. (Just, please, no txtspk when talking to people - an admin is expected to communicate clearly with people from all over the world, who won't always know your text dialect) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I may be showing my age here - but i take it you all mean my short hand when referring to txtspk/textmsg right. I dont text message so i am assuming there is a short hand used that is similar to my talk page writings. Moxy (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, exactly - things like using "y" for "why" etc -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I may be showing my age here - but i take it you all mean my short hand when referring to txtspk/textmsg right. I dont text message so i am assuming there is a short hand used that is similar to my talk page writings. Moxy (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Adminship is no big deal and I can see no evidence that Moxy would misuse the tools.--MONGO 10:33, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Thoroughly deserves to have the extra buttons. Plenty of barnstars, and even a GA being created is something that most people can't do. Minima© (talk) 13:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support – I've seen him around a lot, and see a level-headed and helpful editor; unlikely to misuse the tools. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 14:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support longterm, civil and very active wikipedian with a clean blocklog. Some opposers have raised concerns about communication, having read Moxy's talkpage I don't share those concerns. I see this candidate as an effective and friendly communicator, typos on talkpages and even their user page do not make me doubt Moxy's ability to use the tools. Perfection is not required, trustworthy civil and clueful should be all we require. ϢereSpielChequers 16:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
[edit]- After reading your answers to the questions and some of the text you wrote in main space, I believe that your command of English may not be sufficient for you to communicate effectively with others, which is an important requirement for an administrator. For example, the following text written by you in one of the articles you say are among your best contributions contains many errors and is hard to understand:
"When examined genetic diversity and population structure in the American landmass using autosomal (atDNA) micro-satellite markers genotyped; sampled from North, Central, and South America, analyzed against similar data available from other indigenous populations worldwide. The Amerindian populations show a lower genetic diversity and cellular differentiation than populations from other continental regions. Observe is both decreasing genetic diversity as geographic distance from the Bering Strait occurs and of decreasing genetic similarity to Siberian populations from Alaska (genetic entry point). Also observe is evidence of a higher level of diversity and lower level of population structure in western South America compared to eastern South America. A relative lack of differentiation between Mesoamerican and Andean populations, a scenario that implies coastal routes were easier for migrating peoples (more genetic contributors) to traverse in comparison with inland routes. The over all pattern that is emerging suggest that the Americas were recently colonized by a small number of individuals (effective size of about 70), and then grew by a factor of 10 rapidly. The data also shows, that there are genetic exchanges between Asia and north America since the initial peopling of the Americas." ([7]) Sandstein 07:36, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Much has evolved since February 3, 2010 and i hope the current wording is better in quality and easier for our readers to understand. The article as all here is a work in progress. Moxy (talk) 07:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose per deficient communications. Please improve your skills before filing another RFA. Chester Markel (talk) 08:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there something you dont understand in this RFA or is it simply a grammar issue overall?Moxy (talk) 08:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. Good communication is one of the most important skills an administrator can have, and I'm not sure I'm seeing evidence of it in your contributions. Even just looking through the contributions page, edit summaries like "rv self i sit it not the linked page", "ce..add ref plus stamtment", or "oops sepll chenck erro..:_)" are unclear to the point where they actually become difficult to understand. I'm also impressed with the sheer number of times you can misspell "comment" in an edit summary. The edit summaries here, here, and here make me doubt that you know the difference between a ban and a block, something that I'd say most administrators are expected to understand. Finally, I think that this response (quickly removed) that you gave to a !neutral in this RfA was a hasty and perhaps slightly emotional response to valid criticism. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 16:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The opposes seem very concerned about writing skills which I can appreciate would seem like grounds for opposing this Rfa. I noticed some of these issues myself but disagree that they would interfere with Moxy making wise choices in tool application.--MONGO 17:04, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The issue is not the candidate's ability to determine when to press the buttons, but the communication that should be associated with anything other than the most obvious and uncontroversial administrative actions. Chester Markel (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I understand why this would cause people to oppose this Rfa. Just wanted to chime in that this seems to be a minor issue in my opinion...that it is a bigger issue to others is understandable.--MONGO 17:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The issue is not the candidate's ability to determine when to press the buttons, but the communication that should be associated with anything other than the most obvious and uncontroversial administrative actions. Chester Markel (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The opposes seem very concerned about writing skills which I can appreciate would seem like grounds for opposing this Rfa. I noticed some of these issues myself but disagree that they would interfere with Moxy making wise choices in tool application.--MONGO 17:04, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't support a user who does not consistently capitalize "I" when appropriate. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:32, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose per all of the above. A sysop needs a minimum level of competence in sentence construction and grammar, and you're not there yet. Sorry --Hokeman (talk) 17:27, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose Concerns with communication skills, policy knowledge, and judgement. -FASTILY (TALK) 18:05, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral
[edit]- I get worried when I see potential (or actual) admins communicating on Wikipedia as if they were texting. Looking over the conversations on your user talk page I found that you were generally understandable, however I found your liberal abuse of punctuation and capitalization to be distracting. Admins need to be able to communicate clearly, and I'm just not comfortable with how you talk. I'm also unimpressed with your answer to Q1. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:19, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for taking the time to comment - I do have a unique writing style when it comes to talk pages. As for Q1 not sure what i can say, as I simply hope to help were possible.Moxy (talk) 07:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Minded to support, but with the issues relating to communication can't quite. Mtking (talk) 08:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral. I kind of torn. On the one hand, Moxy is a great contributor with a lot of good work under his belt. On the other hand, we expect our admins to be somewhat professional in their communication. As admin there would be a lot of people posting on your talk page and you need to be able to communicate effectively. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 11:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Slightly amused that a neutral based on communication skills begins "I kind of torn". Please note this is not meant to be a dig at King of Hearts, who actually makes quite good points in his comment, it's simply a light-hearted (I hope) comment on the irony. Jenks24 (talk) 14:48, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral The communications that I saw in my searches looked fine. The logs show that various move and upload features have been used. The deleted contributions shows very little work in the deletion area, so little in fact, that a recent goof stands out like a sore thumb (but one accident is excusable). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral - I feel terrible about this, because grammar seems like a such a small reason to oppose an otherwise decent candidate, but your spelling and grammar leave much to be desired. I first noticed non-capitalization of "I", but this sentence really bothered me:"I have np disclosing all (well not my Visa number ) was User:Lucifers hammer with my son (15 at the time) and my wife - this is were a learned wiki coding and etiquette (did not realizes many should not edit from one account - thus its hard to say what is mine or not as in way of edits)." Sandstein's link, which shows that this is also a problem in article writing, not just on talk pages, is massively concerning. PrincessofLlyr royal court 12:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral I will support if the candidate substantially improves his English skills. Keepscases (talk) 15:32, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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