Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Barneca 2

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Barneca

(70/2/0) final Andre (talk) 17:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barneca (talk · contribs)

Nomination By Pedro. Ladies and gents, this is a bit backwards as Barneca has provided below a substantial rationale as to why he needs the +sysop bit, and why his last RfA failed, done prior to me finding time to write a nomination. I will not re-iterate what you will read below, as it is better that the candidate says it. In summary, however, please note the following. I first ran into Barneca during the mess associated with User:Oldwindybear. At that time we were on opposite sides of the fence (it turns out Barneca was right) but I was impressed by his civility and thoroughness in the situation. At his first RFA I was pleased to support him, despite concerns regarding issues raised by Agüeybaná - see the candidates own Q4 below for more and the discussion at that RfA where I detailed why I felt support was justified.

I believe what we see here is an editor with a passion for Wikipedia, who endeavours to do the right thing for the good of the project. Yes, possible good faith mistakes were made in the past, but Barneca has been true to himself by leaving plenty of time between RfA's to demonstrate that he can be trusted, that he has learnt from experience and that his input to the project would be a net gain.

Fellow editors, I appreciate that there is some substantial reading and research to do before placing your comments in Support, Oppose or Neutral. Please make that time and I hope that you will find, as I do, that granting admin buttons to Barneca is a positive move for Wikipedia. Pedro : Chat 09:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Co nom from waterdude

I second Pedro's excellent nom. I first encountered Barneca in his last RfA, where I initially opposed. In the end, the way he acted, with dignity and civility and all those good things, convinced me that he could be trusted, hence my change to support. I'd like to extend this now; I've seen only excellent things from him since. Ladies and gentlemen, another net positive; Barneca. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 10:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Co-nom from MastCell

I'll second what the others have said above. Barneca is a mature, sensible, civil editor with experience enough to use the tools well, and judgment enough to know when not to use them and when to ask for help. I understand the concerns raised at his first RfA, but his subsequent track record shows them to be based on an isolated incident, and his contributions as a whole allay any concerns. He's demonstrated an excellent ability to stay cool and make considered and constructive rather than rash decisions, which is what we look for in admins. Whatever use he puts the buttons to will benefit Wikipedia; I hope you'll agree with me that Barneca is a highly deserving candidate. MastCell ^Talk 20:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Co-nom from Dreamafter

I have not but good to say of him, he is always helpful, when asked, and goes out of his way to ensure that things are done correctly and to policy. By far some of the best work around here is that which helps the other newer editors, at Account Creation by admins (and some other lesser people[like Barneca {Currently}]). You can't fault him for the work he has been doing, and is always up for criticism, and responds really well to it, fixing N.I.N.S. (Now If Not Sooner). ~ Dreamy ^§ 01:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Thank you all for the kind words, I accept the nomination. --barneca (talk) 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?

A: I’m mostly stealing this from my previous RfA, but have updated it in a few places, so it might be worth a fresh read.

Vandalism removal. I’ve spent a majority of my time here reverting vandalism, with nearly 200 reports to WP:AIV. Only one of them was declined, which should confirm my judgment in this area. It would be faster to block active vandals myself, rather than report to WP:AIV. I'll continue to go to Random pages and watch Recentchanges myself, but I’ll also help at WP:AIV. I won't necessarily continue to spend the majority of my time doing this, but I do think it’s important, it's something I’m happy to continue, and an area where I can jump in almost right away.
Account creation. I’ve done quite a bit of work in the last few months at WP:ACC. The page is actually pretty good, backlog-wise; a small group of admins frequents that page several times a day. Still, every little bit helps, and if I do it too, then others are free to do something else.
WP:AN and WP:ANI. I already occasionally wander by these boards and chime in when I think I can be useful. As an admin, I’ll do that a little more, in case someone needs an admin’s help. Similarly, I’ll keep an eye on CAT:HELP and CAT:UNBLOCK.
CAT:PROD and CAT:CSD. As mentioned in my previous RfA, I’ve got a good track record of admins agreeing with my {{db}} tags. For vandalism, patent nonsense, attack pages, and general maintenance, I'd like to be able to delete them when I find them myself, without adding to the CSD workload. For notability and similar cases, in all but the most obvious cases I’ll probably continue to add tags to articles that I run across myself, rather than delete on my own; I think having two sets of eyes verify that something is speedyable for non-notability is good practice. But I’m quite willing to be that second pair of eyes, and so I'll also review articles listed at CAT:CSD and expired PROD's.
Backlogs. I think there's a certain obligation to pitch in and help if entrusted with the mop. As I become more familiar with processes at each place, I'll try to help out with whatever backlogs are currently at CAT:AB.
If I ever get bored, I'll find something new, watch and learn, and help out when I'm comfortable. I don't plan to focus on one area.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A. Again, mostly echoing my answer from last time, with a few updates:

Mediation/DR. It interests me, and I’ve tried it informally a few times, sometimes more successfully than others. My largest undertaking in this area was trying to calm Video Professor down and whip it into shape, and in the end I think both sides were happy with the results. You can see more about my DR experience in general on my previous RfA's talk page. If you're curious about the Video Professor stuff, and if you're up for a long read, the relevant portion of the Video Professor talk page is archived at Talk:Video Professor/Archive. I was involved from roughly August 21, 2007 to October 1, 2007. The competing versions before I got involved are here and here, compared to my final version, which isn't much different than the current version.
General helpfulness. Helping out at WP:ACC, wandering by the Help Desk, dablink fixing, article discussion when I have something useful to say, looking up info in the references and fixing it if it's incorrect, spelling/phrasing fixes, page moves... Just generally wandering around the 'pedia, fixing what I come across that seems to need fixing. I’m here because I enjoy poking around and looking at various articles, policies, processes, and try to participate in whatever seems interesting.
Contributing without having a strong POV about, really, much of anything. I'm here because I love the concept of Wikipedia, and find it interesting, enjoy learning new stuff, and enjoy being useful, not because I want articles my way. Long term, I think that POV wars, and the socks and cross-namespace disputes they breed, are more dangerous to Wikipedia than vandalism. While I certainly don’t think you have to come here without any POV at all in order to be an editor or an admin, frankly I think the fact that I don’t have an ax to grind is a benefit, especially if I try to get involved in helping to settle other people’s disputes.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A. For the most obvious, glaring example, please see pretty much the entire discussion section of my previous RfA; I had a short but intense dispute with Agüeybaná in August. A simple summary is given on the talk page of my first RfA; see here. For my final comments on lessons learned, etc, please see that talk page, and my comments to Walton and Pedro in the discussion section of my first RfA. A one sentence summary: IMHO he and I acted like jerks to each other, we are both human, I have learned from it, and it was 6 months ago. OK, one further sentence: I never said I was going to post previously-received emails on-wiki, and fully understand that warning him I would post any future emails on-wiki was stupid.

The only other stressful conflict I’ve had since then was a bad experience three months ago, calling a questionable edit "spam", when in retrospect it might not have been. I was too quick to jump to conclusions there. It really ticked the IP off, but I apologized, was open to discussion the whole time, and didn't escalate the disagreement. You can follow this in User talk:Barneca/Archive 4#Why did you remove my entry on PDF ? and Talk:Portable Document Format#This 10 mo. User Barnaca is CENSORING My contribution. It seems to me like it was a dynamic IP, so there’s no way to know if they came back or not, but there was a definite failure to AGF there. It wasn't stressful until I realized he might be right, and that I hadn't assumed the best; after that realization, it got stressful for me in a hurry. I’ve since made an extra effort to not be a dick during RC work, and in fact I’m tweaking the templates I use to be extra-special-go-the-extra-mile gentle; see user:barneca/temps/uw-test1ac (Actually, see here for how it looks transcluded). That’s about it in the conflict and stress department. Normal garden-variety "barneca sucks" messages from vandals are like water off a duck's back.

My main tactics if I run into a dispute (stolen verbatim from my previous RfA) are:

Discuss, if the other editor appears reasonable. Frequently one of us will convince the other, or we’ll compromise. Sometimes one of us will give up; that’s OK too. When someone is being polite, I enjoy the give and take.
Disengage, if the other editor is uncivil or attacking me, or clearly uninterested in consensus. Arguing for the sake of arguing is a time sink.
Ask for help. You won't see me block someone for being uncivil to me or attacking me. I’m not a huge fan of going to WP:AN or WP:ANI about civility complaints; I usually couldn’t care less if someone insults me on Wikipedia, and favor ignoring them instead. But if they just won’t leave me alone, and it interferes with my ability to be here, I’ll either go to ANI, or to a talk page of an admin that I know is active, to ask for another pair of eyes and some help.

(saving someone the trouble by asking the following question myself:)

4. What have I done to address the concerns from my previous RFA?

A. There were a few concerns raised in my last RFA:

Civility. I'm really a very civil person, honest; I just had a bad day. But I can understand how people were concerned last time, as my conflict with Agüeybaná was only a month before my previous RfA. I’ve really just continued to edit as I always edit, perhaps taking an extra 2 seconds before hitting the save page button, and if you look thru my contribs I hope you’ll agree that the thing with Agüeybaná was an abheration, not part of a pattern.
AfD experience. With only 3 XfD's before my first RfA, I commented on 6 more AfD’s during the RfA, in response to a concern raised by J-stan. I’ve commented on five more XfD's since then. To be honest, I haven’t gone out of my way to do that; all five I’ve participated in were articles that I ran across somehow that interested me. A total of 14 XfD's isn’t much, but it should be enough to show I’m not a raving deletionist or a raving inclusionist, and if forced at gunpoint to close a non-contentious AFD, I’ve seen the mechanics and could do it. (I’d probably just let them shoot me if they tried to force me to close a contentious one).
Wikipedia space edits. I’ve kept to the same general pace, except I started working at WP:ACC. Some portion of my deleted edits (can’t see for myself, obviously) are at the regularly-deleted WP:ACC page, which should “count” toward WP space edits.
Article writing. After my last RfA, I started out with plans to try to write an article, but it was stressing me out, and I've come to the conclusion that it wouldn’t make sense to do that. It’s not what I’m here to do, so it’s not something I want to imply I’m here to do. If you truly believe a background in article writing is necessary for adminship, then I disagree, but I’ll understand if you oppose. But it seemed somewhat dishonest to try to compose an article, and probably do it badly, just so I could tick off something on a to do list. By the way, if a short stub would satisfy you, I did write Diaphragm (structural system), but it isn’t headed toward GA any time soon.

Questions from EJF

5. Would you add yourself to admins open to recall? Why?

A: You know how it never rains when you remember to bring your umbrella, and always rains when you forget? That’s what recall is like; the people you would want to use it on seldom agree to sign up. But, it’s still a good idea to bring your umbrella, and it’s still a good idea (IMHO) to have voluntary recall. It indicates a certain amount of trust in the judgement of the community, and provides an extra level of accountability to the community. A lot of the problems with recall occur when people figure out or adjust their process mid-crisis, so I’ve already created my process and plan on adding it to the list. It’s currently still in draft form, but only so I can tweak it in response to comments here. Recall has a little more teeth to it than some think; I think the community would judge someone gaming the system to avoid a legitimate recall effort fairly harshly, whether it violates “policy” or not. I haven’t done an exhaustive survey, but I believe with one exception, admins who were perceived to have attempted to avoid recall eventually requested desysoping anyway, basically due to social pressure.

6. How would you deal with a POV-pusher who had not committed any vandalism?

A: POV pushing is a content dispute, and so is subject to WP:3RR. I’m pretty much a 1RR person anyway, so step one is to not edit war with them. If it was a clear NPOV violation, I’d probably revert once, and add a note to the talk page why I disagreed, and leave a message on their talk page asking them to discuss it on the article talk page. If they re-added the material, I’d put a {{disputed}} tag up rather than revert again. As long as there wasn’t a BLP issue and they were talking, I could live with their version on the page until consensus was reached. If we couldn’t get consensus, I’d follow the normal DR procedures to get more eyeballs on the article. The key to fighting POV pushing is more eyeballs; more non-POV people involved. There are {{uw-npov1}} tags, but I doubt they’re much use.

If they refused to discuss, and just keep re-adding the same material, that's starting to feel more like vandalism in my mind, but noting that not everyone agrees, I'd still follow the procedures above, but perhaps more strongly. If I was involved in the discussion, I wouldn't block, I'd ask somewhere for another admin to do a sanity check and block if appropriate. Without having more specifics in the question, I can't say much more than that. Is that what you meant, or did you mean, what if I come across a dispute others are having with a POV pusher, and was asked to act in an admin capacity?

Yes, that was the answer I wanted, nothing specific, I was just interested in a general answer, and I am happy with what you have said. EJF (talk) 18:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

7. Would you ever undo another admin's actions? Why?

A: Only in very rare circumstances. I would first discuss it with the admin in question, on talk pages or by email, depending on the subject matter. If they agree, it's probably best if they undo their own action. If they said “undo if you want to, but I’m not going to”, I might do so, depending on the circumstances. If we still disagreed, or if I couldn’t get a hold of them in a reasonable time, I’d take it to WP:AN or WP:ANI or somewhere else appropriate (I don’t do IRC), and might undo their action if consensus developed for it. If the other admin is acting in good faith, it’s hard to imagine a situation where it was vital to undo their action right away, without talking to others. Blind reverting of another admin's action seldom achieves the desired outcome in a drama-less fashion.

Questions from Thehelpfulone

8. What is the difference between a ban and a block?

A: Dicdef: A block is when an admin prevents a particular account or IP address from editing Wikipedia; a ban is when ArbCom or the community at large has decided a particular person should no longer edit certain articles, or Wikipedia as a whole.

Real life: is a bit fuzzier, as some blocks can have the effect of bans; for example, you can’t use sockpuppets to evade a 3RR block, so that has the same effect as a “temporary” ban on a person; and an “indef block that no admin is willing to overturn” has some similarity to a ban.

The main difference is, if User:ExampleVandal has been indef blocked for vandalism, and creates the account User:ExampleReformed and starts making legit contributions, that’s acceptable. If User:ExampleVandal has been banned and does the same thing, they’re violating their ban and the new account can theoretically be blocked (although, from a practical point of view, it would certainly be hard to detect).

9. What would your personal standards be on granting and removing rollback, if any?

A: I would be somewhat liberal; no evidence of a tendancy to edit war, and a sense they'd been around long enough to understand what they were doing, and when they should and should not use it. It's so easy to remove if it's abused, and (IMHO) it's so much less powerful than its reputation, that problems are easily dealt with. I would grant it to a user I was familiar with, if they asked and if they met the above criteria, without demanding they go thru WP:RFR. Personally, I think Twinkle is a much more dangerous tool than rollback.

Question from Moreschi

10. In several recent arbitration cases (Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren), administrators were given the ability to apply discretionary sanctions to users editing various areas of the encyclopaedia (sweeping areas, too). How, if at all, would you go about enforcing these sanctions? Moreschi ^{If you've written a quality article...} 17:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A: (Preliminary answer) I'm aware that this remedy was imposed in several recent ArbCom cases, but haven't looked into the specifics. I'll have to do some ArbCom case reading (yay, what fun!) and get back to you later.

A. Simple, cheating answer: I’d steer clear of enforcing those sanctions until I had a decent amount of admin time under my belt. Wouldn’t want to make matters worse by diving in without knowing how deep the pool is. My first attempt at getting involved would be preceeded by a discussion with an admin who was more experienced in imposing these remedies, who I would probably find by looking at the "Log of blocks and bans" section of one of the cases.

What I think you wanted (if I was somehow compelled to act): The final decisions of all four cases vary slightly, but it seems from reading the decisions in chronological order that ArbCom has gradually moved to a relatively clear and relatively standard set of remedies for cases of this type. Since Palestine-Israel articles is the most recent, my answer is based on that decision. At the risk of paraphrasing too much, these findings basically say:

Prolonged unresolvable conflicts of this type are so damaging to Wikipedia that extraordinary remedies are needed.
Any uninvolved admin can warn an editor ONCE (or verify they've been warned already) of unacceptable behavior. I would concentrate strongly on this step, and in utopia, that’s all that would be needed, and no sanctions would be enforced. I would log this warning in the appropriate place on the RFAR.
If the behavior doesn't improve, the admin can impose a broad range of remedies, somewhat at their discretion. The remedy should be based on severity of disruption, newness and good-faithness of the editor, and past block history (if any). The remedy should also be logged in the RFAR.
The remedies can be appealed/modified at WP:AE or WP:AN.
Admins that abuse these provisions (especially, I imagine, if they are not truly uninvolved) can get their head handed to them on a platter.

Optional question from Keepscases

11. What are your thoughts on RuPaul? Do you plan on editing his article if your RfA is successful? What about if it is not?

A: I'm sure this is not what RuPaul wants to hear, but I had completely forgotten that he existed; the '90s was a long time ago. My first reaction on reading the article was "Dear God, RuPaul is 47!?" Other than that, I don't really have any positive or negative thoughts on RuPaul; similar, probably, to how he feels about me. Regardless of what happens to this RfA, I'd say the odds of that article being the next one I edit are roughly 1 in 2,212,783.

Optional question from miranda

12. Sorry if you already mentioned this above, but what articles have you substantially improved/created?

A: Well, as I acknowledge above, not many. The ones I can think of are listed below: I don't believe there are others where I'd call my improvements "substantial", but if I think of more I'll add them.

Video Professor: Fairly extensive rewrite (per Q.2 above) from roughly August 21, 2007 to October 1, 2007, trying to find an NPOV balance between pro-VP and anti-VP people.
Diaphragm (structural system): Created a stub. Discovered there was no such article while fixing links to disambiguation pages for Diaphragm, and it's an area I know something about, so I created a short stub rather than leave it a redlink.
Kip (unit): Very short article that I remember cleaning up (by making even smaller) a while ago.
Atomidine: The article seemed to be a POV mess, I stumbled across it while looking at Recent Changes and tried cleaned it up. I just looked at it for the first time in probably 8 months just now, and it looks like it might have veered somewhat back.
Ecuador: Almost all my edits here have been vandalism reversions. For some reason it attracts a lot of vandalism, has been protected several times, and I like to think the fact that it's on my watchlist has kept it from being protected more often. However, I have worked slightly on talk page and content issues, but I'll admit calling this "substantial improvement" would be too much of a stretch.

Question from User:Geni

have you read the GFDL?

A. Yes, I have. I read it once soon after signing up, and again 2 minutes ago, in anticipation of a followup question to this one.

General comments

See Barneca's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.

Links for Barneca: Barneca (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Barneca before commenting.

Discussion

Why so many noms? Silly. CordeliaHenrietta ↔ Talk 17:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Three had previously, and independently, said they'd like to nominate me in the past few months, and know about different areas of my contributions. One kind of crashed the party, but I like him (he says nice things about me) and I saw no point in asking him not to. Silly, but I hope relatively harmless. --barneca (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is a bit silly, but Barneca's a popular guy. I wish I could say I'd never seen an RfA opposed on the basis of "too many noms", but I have, so if it becomes an issue I'll happily remove mine and content myself with strong support. MastCell ^Talk 19:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you're not referring to me. I'm only joking. :) The more co-noms the more that user should be an admin! Icestorm815 • Talk 06:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I previously requested independantly? News to me! dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 10:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You crashed the party ;p ^Avruchtalk 13:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thought so. Memory failing :( dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you know this already, but just in case: you can't check WP:ACC accounts with an admin account because it causes them to be created automatically, so to continue that you'll need to create a non-administrator alternate account. --ais523 16:56, 8 February 2008 (U T C)
Yep; a request on ANI for non-admins to go to that page for that very reason was what got me involved in the first place. User:Barneca sock 1 is waiting in the wings, ready to help. --barneca (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support

Because nominators are allowed to support pre-transclusion. Since now. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 10:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support If thats so, then no one-can yell at me now! But seriously, I co-nomed, can't be more trusting than that. ~ Dreamy ^§ 01:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support per my nomination. Pedro : Chat 16:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support: Excellent candidate, absolutely no concerns, per my nomination. MastCell ^Talk 16:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 17:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good user who obviously knows his stuff. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
CordeliaHenrietta ↔ Talk 17:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support as in the first RfA - good vandal-fighting, edits, etc. I've seen improvements on edit count, edit sumamry use, civility, etc. Bearian (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dloh cierekim Deleted? 17:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Interacted with Barneca a few weeks ago, and I found them to be polite and friendly. I think the issues raised in the last RfA have been dealt with, and I have no concerns here. Acalamari 17:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Hiberniantears and TwoOars at RfA/Barneca 1. - TwoOars 17:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Only seen good things, has learned from previous comments, should make a good admin. Woody (talk) 18:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good Luck! --The Helpful One 18:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - in particular for the stirling work done in unmasking the various identities of oldwindybear, and pursuing the case with a combination of determination and civility. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 18:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, excellent contributions, excellent answers to questions. EJF (talk) 18:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's clear this user's made real concrete efforts to improve, and has done a great job. Proud to support here. :) GlassCobra 18:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support Definitely He'll make good admin.--NAHID 19:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - trustworthy editor. Addhoc (talk) 19:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - great editor. Will only make wikipedia better. - Milk's Favorite Cookie 20:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Wow, awesome at dealing with potential conflict, from a good look at their talk page. Always friendly and helpful in every edit I looked at, plus good about taking criticism. And clearly knows their stuff. An asset to the project, and leaves no doubt that they will use the tools well. delldot talk 20:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Too many noms. Icestorm815 (talk) 20:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Before anyone gets excited, please check Icestorm's edit summary [1]. Now where do I remember "too many noms" coming up before .......... :) Pedro : Chat 20:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I stand by my "oppose"! This user has too many productive edits that giving Barneca the mop will surely lead to crashing the wiki! :) Icestorm815 • Talk 05:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Remember this? :) Too many co-noms *coughs* (then again, pots and kettles comes to mind) :] Rudget . 20:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support obvious. SQL ^{Query me!} 21:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support a good candidate --Step hen 21:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support 200 AIV reports? Get him the mop, quickly! Otherwise, looks like a great candidate. I'd like to see a bit more XfD discussion, but you show that you at least understand the process. Mastrchf91 (^t/_c) 22:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Many editors that I respect are supporting and co-nominating you, making this an easy call for me. I read through your previous RfA, and had I participated there, I would have supported then as well. Great user, obvious dedication. Enjoy the buttons. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I don't like reconfirmations. ;) Mistery account (talk) 22:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC) — Mistery account (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Support Though I'm slightly concerned about the issue from the first RfA, I see evidence that this user has improved, and is an excellent contributor. Also, they have demonstrated they can be civil.Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 23:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support It is time to give him the mop. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 23:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seen Barneca around and seems to know what he's talking about, and with the right attitude. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 23:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. bibliomaniac 1 5 23:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support 197 edits to WP:AIV. Definitely needs the mop. Tim meh ! 23:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support Excellent work on WP:ACC. Barneca deals with requests very well and is careful in what he does. Tra (Talk) 00:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - of course. I'm no longer concerned over the last RfA. This guy will be just fine :) - Alison ^❤ 00:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Will make a fine admin. Good luck, Malinaccier (talk) 01:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - good editor, great work at WP:ACC. Will make a good admin. jj137 (talk) 01:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Of course. —αἰτίας •discussion• 02:31, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I know who he is. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 04:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks good to me. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
— DarkFalls ^talk 06:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Answer to my question is tad formulaic, but displays tact and due care. Best of luck. Moreschi ^{If you've written a quality article...} 12:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good editor despite apparent reluctance to improve RuPaul article. Keepscases (talk) 18:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I've found Barneca to be polite and thoughtful. Darkspots (talk) 18:44, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I'm sure... all those co-noms. People gave me a hard time at mine for having 4 too! Haha, нмŵוτн τ 19:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Mtmelendez ^(Talk) 19:35, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support especially per your eloquent answers to questions here. Keep up the good work! VanTucky 20:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good answers; Seen you around somewhere. Spencer^T♦^C 23:14, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Fully qualified candidate. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - qualified for the mop. Lara❤Love 03:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Looks good to me! Gromlakh (talk) 04:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I already thought you were an admin! --Shark face 217 04:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I'm not thrilled about mainspace contribs but evidence of diplomacy and recommendations of other folks I trust leads me to believe sysophood would be a net benefit. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I see no reason why this user can't be trusted. Tivedshambo (talk) 12:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 15:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per the easy choice to make. Really can be trusted with the tools. Razorflame (talk) 16:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support of course NHRHS 2010 NHRHS2010 01:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support As per nom and concerns raised in previous RFA have been cleared.Good track.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Worlds of experience, despite a diminished presence with general editing. I don't feel this should preclude someone from gaining admin status. Wisdom89 (talk) 05:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support: I generally consider article writing experience to be important for the reason noted by Malleus Fatuorum ("[a]dministrators need to understand the problems and frustrations faced by regular editors"), but I have no worries that this will be an issue with Barneca, partly because he does have experience in that regard (what level or quantity of experience is "enough" is subjective) and partly because his comments (in deletion and other discussions) reveal a consistent pattern of civility, maturity, and experience. – Black Falcon ^(Talk) 18:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support — Zerida 21:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Sure, you could have more article writing experience, and if you'd talked about different admin activity interests, I might have been less inclined to join this vote, but you have a solid track record and a clear need for the mop. You look like someone we can really count on. Doczilla (talk) 03:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 15:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly. Daniel (talk) 01:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I'm impressed with what you've done around here and I have no concern that you'd abuse the tools.--Kubigula (talk) 02:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Who am I to say otherwise! :) A man of honour (talk) 14:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC) — A man of honour (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Support, encountered at Wikipedia account creation. Edit counts look absolutely fine, and this user seems a pleasure to have on WP. —αlεx•mullεr 17:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, needs the tools. Good Luck. Carlosguitar ^{(ready and willing)} 17:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Best answers I've ever seen, especially the middle part of the one on arbcom enforcement.DGG (talk) 04:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Lucky number 69. Jmlk 1 7 10:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - no reason to oppose. Particularly not spurious reasoning based on experience writing articles being somehow relevant to whether someone will be a good admin or not. Stifle (talk) 14:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Oppose. On the grounds that I do believe that a background in article writing is essential for an administrator. What else is the purpose of wikipedia? Administrators need to understand the problems and frustrations faced by regular editors, and they can't do that without ever having been one themselves. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 01:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't see how that relates to the tools. Perhaps the opposite is true. Deletion, blocking, page protection should be dispassionate processes. The only time I would be tempted to misuse the block button would be when I cared enough to become angry at what a vandal is doing to the Encyclopedia. It is better to follow the path of dispassion. Dloh cierekim Deleted? 06:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not enough article writing experience.--Doc^g 01:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral

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