Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.

If this is your first article and you want your draft article moved to the mainspace, please submit it for review at Articles for creation, by adding the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft or user sandbox page instead of listing it here.
Because you are autoconfirmed, you can move most pages yourself. Do not request technical assistance on this page if you can do it yourself.
If you need help determining whether it's okay to move the page to a different title, then please follow the instructions at the top of Wikipedia:Requested moves.

Please make sure you really need technical assistance before making a request here. In particular, if the target page is a redirect back to the source page that has only one revision, you can usually move the page normally.
To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
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This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

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Uncontroversial technical requests

American Communist Party (Haz Al-Din) → American Communist Party (currently a redirect instead to American Communist Party (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – Per closed RM discussion on talk page, consensus to move. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 10:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I reopened the discussion, as it was closed by the initiator after less than one day and with only one other person participating. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kingdom of Kumaon → Kumaon Kingdom (currently a redirect back to Kingdom of Kumaon) (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 03:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bulang people → Blang people (currently a redirect back to Bulang people) (move · discuss) – 'Blang' is the endonym of the ethnicity. 'Bulang' is an exonym rendition of Chinese language. It would be unfair to the ethnicity to use a variant of its exonyms. Their language, Blang language also uses Blang not Bulang. Chainwit. (talk) 09:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Drury Ministry → Drury ministry (currently a redirect instead to Ernest Charles Drury#Premier of Ontario) (move · discuss) – make sentence case WP:AT Legend of 14 (talk) 02:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mekuti → Mae Ku (currently a redirect back to Mekuti) (move · discuss) – Moved to original name according to the Chiang Mai Chronicle Inner789 (talk) 10:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sikkimese Bhutia language → Bhutia language (currently a redirect back to Sikkimese Bhutia language) (move · discuss) – "Bhutia language" is the WP:COMMONNAME for the language—it's not often called "Sikkimese Bhutia language", just "Bhutia language" or "Sikkimese language". In addition, there's no other Bhutia language, so no need to disambiguate; this is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for that title. Ookap (talk) 19:32, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ernest Charles Drury → Ernest Drury (currently a redirect back to Ernest Charles Drury) (move · discuss) – WP:CONCISE Legend of 14 (talk) 00:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that he used "Ernest C. Drury" during his political career, and that is used at goverment historical sites (e.g. [1]) and on the current school named in his honor (Ernest C. Drury School for the Deaf). That should probably be the title of the article, which would be acceptable under WP:MIDDLE. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:20, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Helmeted guineafowl → Helmeted guinea fowl (currently a redirect back to Helmeted guineafowl) (move · discuss) – The 'two word' name is much more WP:COMMONNAME than the concatenated name. See: [2] Cinderella157 (talk) 01:11, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Baṛī ye → Bari ye (currently a redirect back to Baṛī ye) (move · discuss) – WP:TSC. — Ö S M A N (talk · contribs) 06:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WBMA-LD → ABC 33/40 (currently a redirect back to WBMA-LD) (move · discuss) – Article now more reflects the four-station simulcast; WBMA-LD can become a redirect Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Netta → Netta (genus) (move · discuss) – Netta Barzilai is known as Netta and is the more common usage. Netta should then become a redirect to Netta Barzilai, which would also need a link to Netta (disambiguation). Netta Barzilai could also be renamed to Netta, but I'm new and don't know what would be preferred. BroJac5246 (talk) 19:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fleadh (disambiguation) → Fleadh (currently a redirect back to Fleadh (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – Malplaced disambiguation page Ivey (talk - contribs) 02:15, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Gadaba (disambiguation) → Gadaba (currently a redirect back to Gadaba (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – Malplaced disambiguation page Ivey (talk - contribs) 02:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Moreh (disambiguation) → Moreh (currently a redirect back to Moreh (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – Malplaced disambiguation page Ivey (talk - contribs) 02:35, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Redeemer (disambiguation) → The Redeemer (currently a redirect back to The Redeemer (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – Malplaced disambiguation page Ivey (talk - contribs) 02:39, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Doubleday Broadcasting Co. → Doubleday Broadcasting (currently a redirect instead to Doubleday (publisher)) (move · discuss) – Per WP:NCCORP, corporate suffixes like "Co." are not ordinarily included in the article title. Moreover, while none of the existing reference titles use either company name, the 18JUN1991 WaPo article "WAVA-FM's New Zookeepers" and 07FEB1983 NYMag article "Doubleday Rocks and Rolls" simply refer to the company as "Doubleday Broadcasting". Doubleday Broadcasting has redirected to Doubleday (publisher) since 2006, anticipating this eventual article on a defunct subsidiary. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 04:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Khasa Kingdom → Khasa kingdom (currently a redirect back to Khasa Kingdom) (move · discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 05:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:Harry Potter (tv series) → Draft:Harry Potter (TV series) (move · discuss) – current page (the one i want to be moved) contains more details about the show Abdullateefsherani (talk) 11:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

Mohammed al-sadr (currently a redirect to Muhammad al-Sadr (jurist)) → Muhammad al-Sadr (currently a redirect instead to Mohammed Hassan al-sadr) (move · discuss) – Name is both misspelled and uncapitalized BurimKazimi (talk) 21:16, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The proposed title is a primary redirect to a different article. Revert back to Muhammad al-Sadr (jurist), the longstanding stable title. 162 etc. (talk) 22:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Art of Personal Chaos concerts → Mayhem promotional concerts (currently a redirect back to The Art of Personal Chaos concerts) (move · discuss) – Revert back to previous title. This significant article name change was performed without any prior move discussion or consensus, and has already been contested by two users at Talk:The Art of Personal Chaos concerts#Requested move 25 May 2025. TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 19:40, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, why is there still no update on this? TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 01:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

#Requests to revert undiscussed moves seems like the appropriate place for this. Legend of 14 (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Thank you! TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 19:44, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Black-and-white → Black and white (currently a redirect back to Black-and-white) (move · discuss) – Article titles should be nouns and not adjectives per WP:NOUN. American Heritage Dictionary lists the hyphenated version as the adjective spelling and the hyphenless version as the noun spelling. Merriam-Webster lists the hyphenated version as an adjective and the hyphenless version as a noun with the meaning described in the article (though the hyphenated version is listed as a synonym for "squad car"). Most of the data on OED is paywalled, but the page title has no hyphens and is listed as both adjective and noun. Literally Satan (talk) 03:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Literally Satan This reverts a 2023 move by @InfiniteNexus that appears undiscussed? Bensci54 (talk) 16:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I had trouble figuring out the move history so if it belongs in this section rather than the one I put it in then so be it. I continue to request the move for the reasons stated above. -Literally Satan (talk) 04:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Title has been in place for two years, disqualifying it as an auto undo of an undiscussed move. However, consider this just as a just regular new technical request, seemingly in line with the naming policy WP:NOUN over a hyphenated adjective. —Bagumba (talk) 12:37, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bagumba: Where is this policy or guideline declaring that two years is too long to qualify as a "reversion of an undiscussed move"? NBA All-Star Game Most Valuable Player had an undiscussed move reverted more than five years afterwards. Left guide (talk) 18:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TITLECHANGES. YMMV. But it seems moot, as I'm proposing to avoid WP:BURO and just process this as a policy-based technical request. —Bagumba (talk) 18:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do I need to post it somewhere else then? -Literally Satan (talk) 23:44, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Contested technical requests

Mohamed Saeed (Maldivian politician) → Mohamed Saeed (currently a redirect instead to Mohammed Said) (move · discuss) – Adding "(Maldivian politician)" to the end is weird and the target title I'm trying to move it to fits the article better Unilandofma^{(Talk to me!)} 09:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are two cricketers with the same name listed at Mohammed Said. A full discussion is needed to make a primary topic grab. older ≠ wiser 11:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The two cricketers you mentioned have their names as "Mohammad Saeed" while the person I'm talking about has his name as "Mohamed Saeed". Unilandofma^{(Talk to me!)} 16:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And you don't think that is easily confused? I think some discussion and consensus would help to establish whether there is a primary topic for that spelling variant. older ≠ wiser 12:46, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Although both their names sound familiar, the titles are already distinct enough that a reader will be able to distinguish both of them. The cricketers you mentioned both have the year that they were born on in the article which clearly distinguishes both the articles to avoid confusion. I agree some discussion would help to establish a consensus. Unilandofma^Talk 11:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mohamed/Mohammed/Muhammad etc. are often inconsistently transliterated. Agree here with User:Bkonrad that this is insufficient disambiguation. 162 etc. (talk) 20:24, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
AI-assisted targeting in the Gaza Strip → AI-Assisted Warfare in Gaza (move · discuss) – concise Cinaroot (talk) 05:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cinaroot Since the article falls within a WP:CTOP, any page moves can be considered controversial and should be consensus based through a RM. cyberdog958^Talk 05:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of Our Lady (Antwerp) → Cathedral of Our Lady, Antwerp (currently a redirect back to Cathedral of Our Lady (Antwerp)) (move · discuss) – Removing brackets, as per WP:COMMADIS Jason Lagos (talk) 18:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jason Lagos "Cathedral of Our Lady" is not an administrative division, so "Antwerp" is not a higher-level administrative division. Therefore WP:COMMADIS does not apply --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your answer, though I am a bit surprised by it, as I would consider a building to be a "place", albeit not a geographic one. If WP:COMMADIS does not apply here, can we at least agree that a comma is preferable as per WP:TITLECON? I have seen relatively few articles on buildings with city names between brackets, and this is the only one among the Roman Catholic churches in Antwerp, which makes it somewhat of an anomaly. Jason Lagos (talk) 00:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ß → ẞ (currently a redirect back to ß) (move · discuss) – Letter case to capital, per MOS:AT House^{Living room}_{DIY Fixings} 22:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Anohthterwikipedian Since the merge of Capital ẞ into ß was the result of a discussion at Talk:ß/Archive 1#Merge Capital ẞ here?, I think a discussion would be needed here to move the the uppercase letter, especially given how recent and controversial the uppercase form is. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:57, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator needed