Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:TRUMPHATE

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. bibliomaniac 1 5 00:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:TRUMPHATE

Short essay that does not make sense 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 00:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It does make sense. It's effectively a politics-specific WP:DELAY (sorta). The only potential issue is the name, which both looks like a shortcut and turns it into a polemic -- saying that the reason someone would create a new article is because of "Trump hate" or something. I don't really care much one way or the other, but maybe best reframed in terms of presidents in general or otherwise userfied. Meh. Update: Just for clarity, this is a Conditional Keep (if renamed/reframed and/or userfied). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 03:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- That's exactly what it is.--v/r - T P 17:14, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for various reasons. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:01, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I hope the user who wrote this essay got their frustrations out of their system, but this page is not necessary and certainly should not be in project space.--WaltCip (talk) 12:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not serving any useful purpose. Most of the content is already covered by common sense and consensus. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This being in Wikipedia: space gives the wrong idea to anyone coming across it. SK2242 (talk) 14:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This essay was written three years ago, so obviously the author does not plan to expand it. As written now, it presupposes that people writing articles negative to Trump are motivated by "hate," and this kind of broad-brush attack does not belong on Wikipedia. It calls itself humor but I see rage, not bemusement. Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 17:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Space is cheap, the essay is humorous and addresses is very common issue. And it's titled "TRUMP" but it's really "WHOMEVERTHECURRENTPRESIDENTISHATE" because this isn't an issue isolated to Trump.--v/r - T P 17:14, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A general observation, not necessarily related to this essay: It seems like "humorous" is an automatic shield to prevent most rubbish essays from being deleted, regardless of whether the content of the essay is funny or not.--WaltCip (talk) 18:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

shrug Not everyone finds the same things funny.--v/r - T P 18:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy per above. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 06:21, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It makes sense. It speaks to Wikipedia inclusion criteria about news topics. At worst, Userfy. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I will reference it in AfDs. We have room in here for humor. WP:NOTPAPER Lightburst (talk) 00:50, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - *lol* trumpedia.com - it's a subpedia on Wikipedia. 😂 For Pete's sake, it's a humorous essay. Where is the policy that says a humorous essay must be deleted if some people don't think it's funny? Jiminy Cricket. See Wikipedia:Essay directory#Humorous material. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 20:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you think it's funny. I just see, as Closeapple said, an agitated outburst. I wonder if I could get away with making an "essay" that's just the word "Fuck" repeated 1,001 times.--WaltCip (talk) 12:28, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention, this is really just echoes of the viewpoint behind Trump Derangement Syndrome, a topic of discussion which generally is not regarded by either side to be "funny".--WaltCip (talk) 12:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy or Delete: The page makes a valid point, but a 5-sentence outburst is not an essay. It's barely a section on a userspace page. Also, WP:TRUMPHATE is not an appropriate title; if the creator's claim of generalization is to be believed, then it has to be renamed repeatedly with time. Also, since when do we create all-caps shortcut page names with their own content instead of redirecting to a more descriptive page name? Not only that, but this particular self-nickname appears to imply something to do with "Love Trumps Hate" (a common protest slogan) and/or dealing with Trump specifically on Wikipedia, when it's actually about something more obscure. --Closeapple (talk) 09:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- You could review my reddit history and you'd know I hold no love for the guy.--v/r - TP 13:59, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, but what does that have to do with it? --Closeapple (talk) 05:52, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Who cares? It's not long enough to be an essay, not humorous and not coherent, but when did that ever matter for Wikipedia essays? Not being sarcastic. There simply are no standards for essays apart from personal attacks etc., nor should there be. Coretheapple (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

By that logic, an essay consisting of gibberish would be acceptable. Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 20:54, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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