Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Copy and paste (2nd nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: Keep and tag as historical.
Per edit request by 192.76.8.91 at Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion, the following rationale is provided by the requestor as well:
"This essay is supposedly about the old copy and paste box that used to appear at the bottom of the edit window, which in the days before JavaScript was widespread you would use to insert characters by copying and pasting them into the wikitext. The essay, in its entirety, consists of a statement that the box exists, a substitution of the interface message, and a statement that it may or may not appear depending on your preferences. I genuinely cannot tell what the supposed use of this page is, it doesn't provide any information that isn't in the interface message itself. These days the box is essentially redundant to the Edit toolbar, with this box only appearing on browsers that have javascript disabled. A rough count indicates that this essay currently has ~ 10 incoming links (that aren't maintenance related), about 7 of which were obviously intended to be targeting WP:COPYPASTE, one from another essay and the remainder being left in comments from the essay's creator. This was previously nominated for deletion in 2016, which was closed as no consensus. I propose that this should be either deleted or userfied, and this page and it's three redirects (WP:PASTE, WP:Paste, WP:Copy/paste) retargeted to Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources." A S U K I T E 19:30, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Two editors have proposed potential solutions at Wikipedia talk:Copy and paste, one being a rename, another userfication (note that the original creator has been indefinitely blocked). I would personally support a rename and perhaps expanding the essay to reflect the "no javascript" behavior if that gets traction (I'm not sure if I can officially as I submitted this, although it is on behalf of another editor).
I can also see a valid argument in re-targeting the redirects WP:PASTE, etc, but I'm unsure if this is the right place to discuss that.(struck out: the correct place to discuss the redirects is WP:RFD) A S U K I T E 19:36, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Additional Comment: WP:Copy and paste has daily average of 1 view/day over 90 days, with WP:Copy-paste having 37 as of now. The title is demonstrably misleading, and WP:Copy-paste gets significantly more traffic, for what that's worth. For the editors who are stumbling upon WP:Copy and paste, we should consider whether it's because they are finding it by mistake, or because they find it useful. A S U K I T E 19:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- I came across it by mistake, which is one of the reasons I've nominated it here. The content is largely a duplicate of Help:CharInsert, which also covers the section that you can copy and paste characters from but also covers the more modern javascript implementation and is generally much more useful in my opinion. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 19:58, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, userfy, redirect or archive, but there is no reason to delete. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:22, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- keep and tag as {{Historical}} (possibly move to Help:) - Nabla (talk) 23:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.