Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User junta
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
WP:NONAZIS, if someone can provide evidence of a military junta that wasn’t a bloody godawful dictatorship then I’ll gladly withdraw. Dronebogus (talk) 23:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, not used on any page, and irrelevant to the goal of building an encyclopedia. Geschichte (talk) 13:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Interesting fact: There have been historical analyses that some military coups, predominately in Africa, can be precursors to democracy. That is to say, the military overthrew a dictator and within a decade commit to a transition to democracy. Obviously that's not the intent of this ubx, which is just edgy for the sake of being edgy. Curbon7 (talk) 01:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't Free France something that can be said as junta?C933103 (talk) 11:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- That seems like the above mentioned “military overthrows dictatorship” deal— desperate times call for desperate measures. It was set up during a time of war after the government had fallen to a fascist dictatorship, not during peacetime “because it’s just better” which is what this box seems to advocate. So yes I’d say juntas are sometimes necessary transitional regimes during periods of chaos, but if you support a permanent junta you’re probably some sort of weirdo who walks around with a “free helicopter rides for commies” T-shirt. Dronebogus (talk) 11:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- The world is not in a peaceful state now, a handful of countries have long ongoing wars. Given that Wikipedia have users from all over the world, it is almost certain that some of the users could be from countries with even more worse state of governance. There are also nuance in a number of different countries, for example in Turkey, in the past military intervention have been considered an important tool to prevent the rise of theocratic government in the country, according to my understanding. Hence it might not be appropriate to consider all Wikipedia users to be living in an era that can be describe as "during peacetime". C933103 (talk) 12:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- An interesting difference in perspectives. Here in the West, “junta” conjures up images of banana republics and Operation Condor, which is why I assumed this was mainly an edgy appeal to Alt-Right bros. Dronebogus (talk) 12:13, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- The world is not in a peaceful state now, a handful of countries have long ongoing wars. Given that Wikipedia have users from all over the world, it is almost certain that some of the users could be from countries with even more worse state of governance. There are also nuance in a number of different countries, for example in Turkey, in the past military intervention have been considered an important tool to prevent the rise of theocratic government in the country, according to my understanding. Hence it might not be appropriate to consider all Wikipedia users to be living in an era that can be describe as "during peacetime". C933103 (talk) 12:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- That seems like the above mentioned “military overthrows dictatorship” deal— desperate times call for desperate measures. It was set up during a time of war after the government had fallen to a fascist dictatorship, not during peacetime “because it’s just better” which is what this box seems to advocate. So yes I’d say juntas are sometimes necessary transitional regimes during periods of chaos, but if you support a permanent junta you’re probably some sort of weirdo who walks around with a “free helicopter rides for commies” T-shirt. Dronebogus (talk) 11:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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