Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Vivek Verma

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 23:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Vivek Verma

Vivek Verma

The reason why this draft should be deleted is not that so much that the subject is not notable, which is not in itself a reason to delete a draft, but that the title has not only been deleted from article space but salted. Because the title has been salted, and, in my opinion, the salting is correct, the resubmission of this draft is useless. The reviewers won't approve it, but they can't approve it even if they want to approve it. At least, they can't approve it without requesting unsalting, and there is no reason to request unsalting. See

The gaming of titles is characteristic of attempts by paid editors and sockpuppets to sneak articles into article space, bypassing consensus. There has already been consensus that the subject is not notable, and that re-creation of articles is a waste of time and electrons. This draft is another effort to waste the time of the reviewers, and should go into a bit bucket. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:41, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and CU the draft creator. And thank you to RobMcC for bringing this here (and not, for that matter, making three separate posts about it :P ) SN54129 20:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sodium chloride it I did a HUGE rewrite of the draft using the supposedly new reliable sources, but even then, the bulk of the information provided was still coming from Arun Budhathoki's two articles in The Diplomat. While The Diplomat paper is itself a WP:RSP green source, the article author Arun Budhathoki, as researched by Praxidicae, is EIC of the Wikipedia-banned Kathmandu Tribune, so his writeups are questionable for RS. Praxidicae has also chimed in on many of the other major sources as per the previous AFD. There's also an argument that The Hindu, Deccan Chronicle, and other mainstream papers are covering his career, so need a response on whether those should be discounted or considered.

As for Verma himself, he is at most a supporting crew/band member for Himesh Reshammiya. Yes, he shows up in the music video credits for soundtrack songs, so a salted redirect to Himesh's page would be as far as it goes. The other articles provided are mainly news announcements of released solo singles and "albums", none of which are critically reviewed or have made any notable splash in the industry. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:29, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to see what the draft was before I got my hands on it, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Vivek_Verma&oldid=1076775568 AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:38, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a big mess when there are news articles that claim he composed a song, and then the actual music video showing that he was not credited at all. Same with claiming notability for an award given to a person who happened to share the same name, and that "fact" gets published in those articles. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:47, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delet or Redirect to Reshammiya as per above and on behalf of the fact that majority of his coverages and majorly Film works revolves around Reshammiya only. Surya^beej ^⋠talk⋡ 08:57, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't see any improvements that establish notability since it was last deleted. To me it sounds like the subject of this draft is hiring freelancers and the author of this latest version should disclose their conflict of interest if any as per WP:PAID. GSS ^💬 09:17, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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