Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/300 pageant drafts in userspace

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Lists of deleted pages can be found at Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/300 pageant drafts in userspace/Biographies and Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/300 pageant drafts in userspace. ✗plicit 00:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Mauriziok/Miss Earth (and 300 other pageant articles copied to userspace)

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User Mauriziok has copied ~~over 300 pageant articles~~ over 650 pageant articles or templates, and related biographies to their userspace in apparent contravention of the WP:User page policy. They did not respond to my inquiry placed January last year nor another placed in August, although actively editing frequently since then. This is at least a problem for attribution, and makes one wonder if this is a hedge against deletion or something, looking at their talkpage a lot of stuff they created is now redlinks.

The copied articles are so extensive, it is difficult to pare them down, but here's a sampling of userspace subpages:

"Mauriziok/Miss" → over 200 pages
"Mauriziok/List of Miss" → over 36 pages
"Mauriziok/Mister" → over 100 pages
"Mauriziok/List of Mister" → over 36 pages
"Mauriziok/Manhunt" → over 20 pages
"Mauriziok/Template" → over 60 beauty pageant templates

Unfortunately there are extensive biographies copied as well, so it's harder to just give a good search link for them. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think I isolated about 215 biographies in an enumerated list here. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:28, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By my count, 22 of the biographies have been deleted. I didn't count the original number in the list, but there may be about 193 remaining biographies. I haven't spot-checked how many of them are tagged with U1 or how many have been blanked. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See also User talk:Mauriziok#Userspace content forks, where user was told those would be deleted and promised not to do it again.

— rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:56, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - ~~I am not voting at this time because I am still spot-checking the nominations, but will almost certainly vote Delete All within a few days.~~ The biographies appear to be (not surprisingly) of pageant winners. This is both a content issue and a conduct issue, although MFD is a content forum. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Currently, I am working on several editions of Venezuelan pageants: Miss Venezuela, Miss & Mister Turismo Venezuela, Señorita & Mister Deporte Venezuela, Mister Universo Venezuela, Caballero Venezuela, Mister Handsome Venezuela, which requires a lot of time to organize... However, I can start eliminating the drafts of the Mister Venezuela, Miss World Venezuela and Miss Earth Venezuela editions, that I have already finished editing and the international contest, but don't erase the rest cuz i'm editing those. --Mauriziok (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - For example, I have blaked these two drafts (User:Mauriziok/Men's minor international pageants, User:Mauriziok/Men's international pageant social networks), but I don't how it is the procedure to delete them definitely... --Mauriziok (talk) 21:35, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mauriziok On 1 June 2021 you created a copy of Miss World 1985 as it existed then (Special:PermanentLink/1023043232) — User:Mauriziok/Miss World 1985 (ComparePages). Why did you do this? —Alalch E. 22:07, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I thought I could reference them better. I'm going to go through all those drafts, to gradually blanking them. I'll just keep the ones I'm working on. In a week, I might be able to whiten the drafts I'm no longer using. Give me a little time please. Mauriziok (talk) 23:01, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Mauriziok - Why should the community give you a little time, when you were asked about the pages nine months ago? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:51, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I thought I could handle all the draft issues. However, I had a lot of time away from the projects and couldn't complete them. Anyway, so far, I've already blanked out around 40 drafts and I'm still doing so. Maybe in less time, I'll be able to delete all the ones I'm no longer working on. Mauriziok (talk) 11:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see my reply below regarding "deleting". You will need the help of an administrator to delete. That is what it means to delete, and see Wikipedia's policy on deletion; it additionally explains that deleting and blanking are different. —Alalch E. 17:28, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All - I have seen enough of these copies of articles in user space to agree with the nominator that they should be deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:33, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not all the drafts should be removed. I'm voluntarily removing all inactive drafts, as well as templates and bios. Mauriziok (talk) 13:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mauriziok: Please perform a "second pass" and now tag all those pages you have blanked with {{db-u1}}. You need to do it this way, now and in the future. Blanking isn't the right way. On creating copies: Copies are permitted for a short time as temporary pages, but if it isn't necessary for you to create copies and if you can implement your desired changes directly in live articles, doing so is better. I can respect that you want to test the changes outside of article space, but you then need to ask for the copies to be properly deleted after a reasonable amount of time. See WP:COPIES ("deleted" means properly deleted, not blanked). —Alalch E. 17:15, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to be trying to comply. Got about a hundred tagged for CSD right now. — Cyrius|✎ 19:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. There are still many copies, however.
Mauriziok, there are currently 868 subpages of your user page. You have tagged more than a hundred for deletion, but hundreds of those pages which remain are also copies that should be deleted. Please tag all such copies with {{db-u1}}. You will be able to keep track of which pages you were interested in and wanted to work on by visiting https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Mauriziok/2 You don't really lose anything by these pages being deleted. If you don't do it yourself, you're just making others do it for you, which means that you're creating work for others, and for this reason you will probably be topic-banned per the ongoing discussion at AN: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Mauriziok Creating Copies of Articles. The ideal scenario is for you to comply and explain that you have learned how to properly dispose of copies in your userspace, that you will only create copies if you feel it is really necessary, that you won't create that many copies in the future, that you will not allow them to become stale, etc. —Alalch E. 22:15, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. Mauriziok tagged some of the copies in their userspace for speedy deletion but stopped at that.—Alalch E. 23:44, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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