Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 May 7

May 7

File:LTrygggolf1.JPG

Derivative work of a wood carving by Swedish woodcarver Lars Trygg (1929–1999). Per c:COM:SWEDEN, "copyright expires at the end of the 70th year after the author's death". This work will not enter the public domain until 2070 ✗plicit 10:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and convert to Fair Use. Having both an example and the detail of the art he was known for makes sense. It appears to be the only image in the article and meets NFCC. Buffs (talk) 19:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we could do with only #1, but I guess it depends how important the detail is. Jay Cubby 02:16, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unless the image is being used in the infobox in the article about the artwork itself, the use of a non-free media file of the piece must be accompanied by sourced critical commentary. ✗plicit 13:08, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

4 sources are given at the bottom and all reference this type of work. It is the minimum necessary to show an artistic technique (detail and the overall effect)...it's the same subject, so no additional infringement attaches. Buffs (talk) 04:07, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is there consensus to keep one of the images and give it an appropriate non-free license?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 03:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Amen break notation (local copy).svg

This file has two problems. It is {{C-uploaded}} but it should have been F8 speedied as soon as they are off the Main Page. Most importantly, it was deleted from Commons as being copyrighted and we have no non-free use rationale:

File:Amen break notation.svg
This file was initially tagged by MIDI as fair use and the most recent rationale was: Transcription of a copyrighted composition. Propose re-upload to appropriate projects with (for example) Wikipedia:Template:Non-free sheet music Quick1984 (talk) 15:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Abzeronow (talk) 00:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

209.227.161.66 (talk) 11:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I don't remember any of the details of why I uploaded this, but I don't have any objections to it being deleted. RoySmith (talk) 11:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not 100% sure on this, but might it be short enough to be deemed uncopyrightable? Then again, the Commons version was deleted. Jay Cubby 14:27, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'll be blunt, this isn't copyrighted. It's too simple (in musical terms). Just 4 measures. Likewise, it has been sampled and uncontested. Its copyright was not asserted prior to 1989 despite its use in other music. [1]. This is PD and credit should certainly go to the author. Buffs (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Abzeronow: what do you think about this? Bedivere (talk) 00:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping, Bedivere. I'm not a musician @Ikan Kekek: but even short works can be copyrighted if they are creative enough. The article notes that the author of the song could not pursue legal action due to the statute of limitations. And en:Amen break says that Richard Lewis Spencer is the copyright holder for the song. Abzeronow (talk) 01:04, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes indeed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:04, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
even short works can be copyrighted if they are creative enough I agree, but this is little more than a simple (repeated) drum line that has been used in countless samples without attribution. Given that this small drum line segment wasn't copyrighted at the time in 1969, it wouldn't attain its own copyright by itself any more than the color black could be copyrighted from [:File:Kazimir_Malevich,_1915,_Black_Suprematic_Square,_oil_on_linen_canvas,_79.5_x_79.5_cm,_Tretyakov_Gallery,_Moscow.jpg|Black Square]].

And en:Amen break says that Richard Lewis Spencer is the copyright holder for the song Indeed he is the copyright holder for the song. I do not see any viable reference that says he owns the copyright to the break. Just because he "could not pursue legal action due to the statute of limitations" doesn't mean he had any case in the first place. It can also mean that even if it were copyrighted, there would be no legal recourse. Buffs (talk) 20:26, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that the drum line has been sampled so many times could point to the drum line itself being a sufficiently creative work. You are also correct that it is possible that courts would have ruled against him. It will be interesting to see what the copyright experts at Commons say about this. (I am largely going to sit out on the discussion on Commons). Abzeronow (talk) 22:27, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Either this is PD, in which case the Commons version should be undeleted (which I've requested at c:COM:UDR) and the local version speedied as F8, or it's not and the local version should be deleted as a copyvio. There's no cause for a local copy to exist, either way, so we need not decide which is the case here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:50, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – the Commons discussion was closed as "not done" and archived to c:Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2025-04 § File:Amen break notation.svg. It should be locally kept as {{non-free sheet music}} (or possibly PD, which is not absolutely excluded by Commons's decision, but I think they were correct in this case). jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The file was never tagged with this discussion. Note that the file has been nominated for WP:F7.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 03:40, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Paquito Diaz Vector art by ljee magpili.jpg

As a film actor, there are ostensibly many photos or still frames of him; are none likely to be available without copyright restrictions (NFCC 1)? TheFeds 21:16, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]