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File:500 Bangladeshi taka Obs 2011.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The front of the Bangladeshi taka is substantially similar for all denominations, with only the color and number changing. As such, having all of them likely fails WP:NFCC 3a and 8.

As such, I am nominating for deletion everything except the 1000 taka note, which is used in the infobox and can be a stand-in for the full set. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:05, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also for deletion in this nomination

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File:Suzi Quatro In the Spotlight Deluxe Edition album cover.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2020 May 22. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:54, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:Suzi Quatro In the Spotlight Deluxe Edition album cover.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

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File:Sunday Bloody Sunday riff A.svg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2020 May 22. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:54, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sunday Bloody Sunday riff A.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

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File:Fabian Ware.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. See discussion on Commons deletion request and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fabian Ware/archive1. Unfortunately, it seems unlikely we will be able to verify that this image is in the public domain, and thus a fair use image is the only option. If a public domain image emerges or information is found verifying the images licensing, this can be deleted as an orphaned fair use image. (non-admin closure) Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 11:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The file has now been uploaded to Commons as File:Sir Fabian Ware.png. The picture is in the public domain and thus does not need a fair use version here. MrClog (talk) 19:16, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update - I have doubts about the image's claimed PD status, so I started the Commons DR discussion on the Commons copy. --George Ho (talk) 23:54, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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File:John Hart Actor.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:53, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Originally nominated for speedy deletion by @Nthep with the reason "Image is not John Hart as the Lone Ranger but Fess Parker as Daniel Boone" FASTILY 23:19, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment if the only problems with the image are that the description/caption/name for the file is incorrect, then that can be easily remedied without deleting the file. The only reason this file should be deleted is if it fails WP:NFCCP. The main issue here would be WP:NFCC#1 (WP:FREER). In other words, are there any free equivalent images of Hart that either already exist or that can possibly be created that would serve the purpose of primary identification in the main infobox instead of this non-free one. Hart died in 2009, so a new photo of him cannot be taken; however, that doesn't mean that it's not impossible for a "new" free equivalent image of him (perhaps one taken by a fan at some personal appearance that he made or an older image whose copyright was never renewed or for which there was no copyright notice) to be found. Wikipedia articles about actors don't necessrily need for the main infobox image to be one that shows that actor in their most famous role, but often such images can be used per item 10 of WP:NFCI when finding a free equivalent to use instead isn't deemed reasonable. It's not clear if that's the case here since the reason for nominating the file for deletion appears to something else. FWIW, File:Fess Parker as Daniel Boone.JPG is an image showing Fess Parker as the series Daniel Boone and John Hart did play a character called "Nat 'Hawkeye' Cutler" in series called Hawkeye and the Last of the Mohicans, who probably dressed a lot like the Daniel Boone; so, it seems possible that this could be a photo of Hart in costume unless it can be shown that this is actually a photo of Parker as Boone. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:19, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't anything to do with FREER, it's a simple matter that the FUR is invalid as it misidentifies the subject of the image or at least fails to positively identify the subject thereby failing WP:NFCC#5. The provenance is dubious - the photo was lifted from Find-a-Grave where it was a user added image, the uploader to WP said it was from a magazine article without making any attempt to identify the original source. There has been confusion between Hart and Fess Parker before, especially because of the similar looks of the actors and the Hawkeye and Boone characters. My suspicion, and I admit the OR in this, is that I have seen Hart in Last of the Mohicans and nowhere do I recall him riding a horse - which can be seen in this image. There are other images out there e.g. [1] or [2] which make much better positive IDs of Hart and either (my preference would be the first or a cropped copy thereof) would make a better replacement. Nthep (talk) 12:16, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If they are concerns that the file fails to meet WP:NFCC#4 (WP:NFC#Meeting the previous publication criterion) or WP:NFCC#10a, then those are valid reasons for deletion. Moreover, the image should actually be of Hart, and if there’s any doubts about that, then perhaps in would be better to just upload another image of Hart as a replacement for this one and then let this one be deleted per WP:F5. This FFD really only needs to run seven days and orphaned files are not deleted until seven days pass; so, there’s nothing gained timewise either way. The faster a verifiable image whose provenance is more easily verifiable can be found and uploaded, the better for Wikipedia in my opinion. I’m going to ping Hullaballoo Wolfowitz because he seems pretty adept at finding free images of actors like Hart that might be {{PD-US-no notice}} or {{PD-US-not renewed}}; perhaps, he can find a free equivalent. If not, then I see no reason why a replacement non-free image cannot be uploaded to use instead of this one. — Marchjuly (talk) 12:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about a low-resolution version of an iconic image? Hart apparently handed out autographed copies of it, one of which can be seen here: http://www.lonerangerfanclub.com/johnhart.html ~Anachronist (talk) 17:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. If it's likely the wrong actor, we're obviously not going to use that. If someone wants to replace it with a correct non-free image, they first have to make a comprehensive search for free images. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:22, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Banco de México A $2000 obverse.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fails WP:NFCC 3a and 8 - there were over 100 non-free images on Mexican peso - 98 tagged as non-free and several on Commons that were deleted as copyright violations.

Having every front and back of every edition of every bill is vastly too much for the non-free content criteria. I am nominating for deletion every bill from every non-current series. However, if the writers of the article want to keep a representative image from each series, one image per series can probably be justified, though it should probably be pulled out of the table and described with cited prose.

I missed this set when I was nominating the rest of the old sets last week. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:00, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominated for deletion in this discussion

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File:TVR Logo, black unbordered.png

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The result of the discussion was: Convert to {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} -FASTILY 03:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Might be public domain as a text logo not sure a fair use rationale is needed 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 20:22, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free Were this an American company, the discussion would be very different. However, this is a British company, and Britain has a very low threshold of originality. File:EDGE magazine (logo).svg is non-free in Britain, for example, and this is arguably more complex than that is. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 21:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @The Squirrel Conspiracy: Do note that this isn't Commons, so UK TOO doesn't matter. Wikiacc (¶) 02:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry, yes, you're right. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Free. Tag {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} and do not move to Commons. Clearly below the US threshold of originality. Wikiacc (¶) 02:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If free, then undelete previous larger revision. --George Ho (talk) 03:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Quarter dinar front.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fails WP:NFCC 3a and 8 - These are images from an old version of the currency (no longer in use).

Having the front and back of multiple bills from previous series is too much for the non-free content criteria. However, if the writers of the article want to keep a single representative image from the prior series, one image can probably be justified, though it should be pulled out of the table and described in the article itself with cited prose. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominated in this discussion

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File:Aioi patent.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Diagram from a WIPO patent application. Uploader tagged the image PD-USGov (clearly erroneous) and asserted "WIPO patent applications are not copyrighted." I can find no evidence that this assertion is true. Wikiacc (¶) 23:58, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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