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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by INeverCry (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Orphan, not useful, uploaded by user blocked for sockpuppetry as part of their spam/promo activity kashmiri ^TALK 05:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move to commons it's just text -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 06:02, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It seems like it's unuseful, and unneeded to move.--jcnJohn Chen (Talk-Contib.) RA 08:12, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously delete, why text in raster format (Unicode character FDF2) would ever be needed? kashmiri ^TALK 09:07, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what it says, but things like this are better as text or SVG. If the user has at least one account which was blocked when the file was uploaded, it should be deleted per WP:CSD#G5. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphan, low quality, uploaded by user as part of their spam/promo activity (user now blocked) kashmiri ^TALK 05:36, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Superceeded, was tagged for Commons, but bot de-tagged. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Obselete, Was tagged for commons, but bot detagged. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Superceeded, was tagged for Commons, but bot de-tagged.. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:32, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Obeslete- Was tagged for Commons, but bot de-tagged. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:34, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Obseletye, Was tagged for Commons, but bot de-tagged. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Superceeded, was tagged for Commons, but bot de-tagged. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:36, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Although some of the issues raised are now settled (sourcing concerns, the applicability of German court cases to en.wiki), other issues regarded freedom of speech and whether it is morally right to host this image. No consensus has formed concerning this balance, and debate has been stale for two weeks. – Quadell ^(talk) 13:46, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The depicted person has never agreed to be published, as confirmed per court decision: Techno Viking#Identity and court case, court decision final (PDF), [1], [2]. Therefore the copyright & rationale informations are not correct and unlawful. Trofobi (talk) 14:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The copyright of the work is owned by the creator, regardless of whether personality rights were infringed by the creator's subsequent use of Techno Viking's image and likeness. The fair use rationale is also reasonable, since it is used to identify the subject of the article. Note that German court decisions are not material to Wikipedia, and the individual is not identified. I am not convinced that by removing the photo from Wikipedia we are doing them a service, since the image and full video is trivially accessible from elsewhere on the internet. L Faraone 22:13, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia only cares about the laws of the United States. The court ruling is from Germany, and German law is different to US law in this aspect: Germany lacks freedom of speech. That said, the image violates WP:NFCC#10a as the source just is listed as "YouTube" with no instructions on how to find the image on Youtube. --Stefan2 (talk) 12:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: "Germany lacks freedom of speech"? Any source for this? Because Freedom_of_speech_by_country#Germany says otherwise. Also, until today I was sure Germany was a signatory to more international human rights laws than the United States, that including those that safeguard freedom of speech. Also, Wikipedia "cares" about many laws, that including the laws of Germany. kashmiri ^TALK 13:15, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - See for example the links above: German law doesn't allow you to publish photos of people. German law therefore lacks freedom of speech. Just as we don't care about Chinese limitations of freedom of speech (for example, the article 4th of June Incident violates Chinese freedom of speech rules), we don't care about German rules either. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:25, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Eh, did you have logics at school? Or law? Are you aware that all civil and political rights have limitations, including the right termed as "freedom of expression" - be it in Germany, United States, and elsewhere? I suggest you read the second paragraph of Freedom of speech and then the section "Limitations". BTW, believe me, all European countries have greater freedom of expression than the United States where everyone can be sued for almost any sentence - and found guilty. Regards, kashmiri ^TALK 14:39, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia also do cares about German law, for example in establishing copyright status. See, for example, the guidelines at WP:Non-U.S. copyrights where foreign copyright status is key to establishing whether the file can be freely used on Wikipedia or not. There are also local Wikipedias which more striclty follow local laws.

See, if you know something, please share. But if you just talk stereotypes, generalisations and gossip with little understanding of the matter, that's not helpful at all. kashmiri ^TALK 14:52, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia only cares about German law to the extent required to establish the copyright status in the United States (see {{PD-URAA}}). --Stefan2 (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Stefan2: So you really think US/UK do not lack freedom of speech? ^^ --Trofobi (talk) 17:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- All countries lack freedom of speech to some extent. For example, in my country, the government recently decided to make it illegal to hide cameras at toilets and take photos of people without telling them. The press complained a lot about lack of freedom of speech when that law was discussed. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This is the English Wikipedia, not German Wikipedia. German personality rights law cannot be enforced here because English Wikipedia is neither its server located in Germany nor predominately accessed by German peoples. Also, English Wikipedia has already accepted some of non-American images as free content such as Template:PD-US-1923-abroad, Template:PD-ineligible-USonly and Template:FoP-USonly even they are not free in their source country(s). --Puramyun31 (talk) 03:24, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Even if it was/is not illegal outside Germany, it's simply rude to go on publishing it. We as community have the option to choose not to be rude, but to respect the man's privacy rights. It is really sad that some users here regard personal curiosity higher. (BTW, the original & copyrighted YT-video KNEECAM No.1 is no more accessible. While the English Wikipedia entry is very well accessible also in Germany.) --Trofobi (talk) 17:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note your nomination counts as a delete vote, you don't need to vote again. You can use Comment instead. Flat Out let's discuss it 03:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep- the image is in the public domain, fair-use applies since the image is essentially the subject of the article. Wikipedia is not censored .Flat Out let's discuss it 03:41, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There is no evidence that the image is in the public domain. This is why it is listed as "fair use". --Stefan2 (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. To me, even if US laws don't always specify it, personal rights, such as the right to protection of own image, take precedence over the right benefitting others, such as fair use. While for Wikipedia it is ok to just apply explicitly US laws, I believe we editors could take a higher moral ground by deciding not to violate personal rights. Anyway, why not to take the issue to somewhere else, like WP:VP? kashmiri ^TALK 09:59, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: how could fair use of the image possibly violate the personal rights of the subject of the photo (who isn't identified) when the image is all over the internet? The article needs the image to make sense and at wikipedia we are not in the business of censorship. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because the person depicted specifically requested that it not be circulated, and a court of law has upheld it. The claim that an image is "all over the internet" is a poor justification for Wikipedia or for violating a person's rights, see also WP:COMPLIC. kashmiri ^TALK 17:22, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Again, This is the English Wikipedia, not German Wikipedia. German personality rights law cannot be enforced here because English Wikipedia is neither its server located in Germany nor predominately accessed by German peoples. in this context "Violating a person's rights" is not valid argument under US law. --Puramyun31 (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You repeat yourself, and also seem to be confusing a discussion with litigation. No one is trying to "enforce German laws" here, the discussion concerns the image and degree of protection we at Wikipedia are willing to afford to personal rights, irrespective of the legal system. kashmiri ^TALK 18:56, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how US laws works, but under Swedish law, the use of the image would only violate copyright law and not personality law. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete, redundant L Faraone 22:01, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Watermarked copy of File:Bijepur College.jpg. Wikipedia doesn't like watermarked images, so let's delete it. Stefan2 (talk) 21:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete, redundant L Faraone 22:01, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Watermarked copy of File:Bijepur College.jpg and File:Bijepur zamidar house.jpg (multiple images in the history). Wikipedia doesn't like watermarked images, so let's delete it. Stefan2 (talk) 21:36, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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