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Walid bin Attash by Janet Hamlin.PNG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Aervanath (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Walid bin Attash by Janet Hamlin.PNG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sherurcij (notify | contribs).

NFCC2. Associated Press image with no discussion in article of image itself. ViperSnake151 Talk 01:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Kay Yow.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep--Aervanath (talk) 20:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kay Yow.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by JGHowes (notify | contribs).

NFCC2 violation. Press images cannot be used to illustrate the subject of the article unless the image itself is an iconic image of its subject. ViperSnake151 Talk 01:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: NFCC2 says only, "Non-free content is not used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media." This greatly-reduced 172x270 jpeg certainly does not diminish the commercial value of the hi-res. original. A search for a free image, including Flickr, found nothing. As the person is dead, it is of course impossible to create a free image. Therefore, NFCC is fully met in all respects, even using the most stringent application of our policies and guidelines. JGHowes ^talk 02:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I Agree partially with both of you. She is dead and as such we cannot create a free image any more. What we can do though is either use a non-press image (of which there are lots and lots) or ask one of the flickr users (like this) if they will release their image under a free licence. While a free image may be difficult, a non-press one is not - Peripitus (Talk) 03:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: NFCC 2 does not support deletion argument – I do not see how this use is "in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media." Additionally, the fair use is acceptable for a deceased historically-significant individual. Strikehold (talk) 23:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It does. The business of a press agency is to sell the right to use this image in publications. We're basically using for free, stuff others have to pay for. Low-resolution or not. "When a commercial use amounts to mere duplication of the entirety of the original, it clearly supersedes the object of the original and serves as a market replacement for it, making it likely that cognizable market harm to the original will occur", says Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc. It can only be legally fair use if it were transformative, like an article on the picture itself depending on if the picture is indeed notable. The specific image itself, is not discussed in the article, but is being used to depict the subject, so its the original market role, and thus not allowed. ViperSnake151 Talk 13:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

oh yeah, p.s. WP:NFC states as an unacceptable use, "A photo from a press agency (e.g. AP), unless the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. This applies mostly to contemporary press photos and not necessarily to historical archives of press photos." ViperSnake151 Talk 16:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the important qualifier, "applies mostly to contemporary press photos and not necessarily to historical archives of press photos" is relevant, as this 2007 photo of a dead person is from AP's archives – not a contemporary news event. NFC is a guideline subject to common sense exceptions based on the spirit of the policy, NFCC, which does provide for "judicious use of non-free content to support the development of a quality encyclopedia ... used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." Such an exception, I submit, is reasonable in the case of a deceased person when used solely to identify the person in their biographical article, as in this instance.

As to Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., that doesn't appear germane, as Wikipedia is not "commercial use" nor is this image used in its "entirety" – the file's page notes it is cropped. JGHowes ^talk 17:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Dale thomas 3455.jpg

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File:Dale thomas 3455.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mutley1412 (notify | contribs).

Non-free image used to illustrate that a sportsperson as a child once. Image adds nothing of significance to the article (fails WP:NFCC#8) and the sourcing (with the lack of a copyright holder) is lacking Peripitus (Talk) 02:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Melissa Chaty.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Brand109 (notify | contribs).

Non-free image of a living person. Clearly replaceable with a new free image - fails WP:NFCC#1 Peripitus (Talk) 02:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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A330-200F.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep--Aervanath (talk) 20:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:A330-200F.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Fuzzy510 (notify | contribs).

There is no need for a image of this image in the Airbus A330. Although this model is not constructed yet, there are several other similar images in the article. Important differences can be discussed in the text. Rettetast (talk) 03:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But what about an image of the image of the image?

Keep: It's perfectly valid fair use, is tiny low res, is the only picture for the section. If the section itself is justified, then so is a picture. bad·monkey _{talk to the {:()} :: 04:35, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: While I am the uploader of this version, I was simply resizing the picture. Proper notification should be given to the original uploader of the image in order to allow them to state their case. --fuzzy510 (talk) 04:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It's perfectly valid fair use, it shows the "blister" detail where the changed nose gear will go in this variant, and it is therefore helpful. Rtgrant5 (talk) 10:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - valid fair use claim until the aircraft is actually built. Bob talk 09:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, decorative image which does not increase actual understanding of the article. Stifle (talk) 09:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Dosen't do anything to hurt the article, and it gives a good view of the aircraft, while it may yet to be built, it dosen't look half bad! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.45.192.66 (talk) 17:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this image is part of the description of the sole freight variant of the aircraft, which is, as of yet, not publicly rolled out. While the section already mentions some differences from the passenger variants, an image will aid in significantly improving the reader's understanding of the section, and ultimately, the article. --O (谈 • висчвын) 22:56, 04 June 2009 (GMT)
Keep valid fair use and adds detail.Toyokuni3 (talk) 18:08, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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SSX Tricky soundtrack.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Aervanath (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:SSX Tricky soundtrack.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by JHobbs103 (notify | contribs).

Album cover used in article about a video game. The cover is not discussed and is not important. The use of a non-free image is not justified. J Milburn (talk) 10:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The reason I uploaded and added this image to the article was because there was a similar image used from December 2005 until April 2009 that was deleted by a bot because there was no fair use rationale. I though that if a a proper fair use rationale was used then it would fine to put it back up. It is a fair point that the cover is not discussed in the article at the moment but the article does covers both the video game and the soundtrack; the article is not just about the video game. If you do think the image serves little purpose then I don't mind its removal, but I do think it adds to the section on the soundtrack.JHobbs103 (talk) 11:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Covers are generally deemed acceptable in articles about video games and/or musical albums whether they are mentioned in detail in the article or not. See Wikipedia:ALBUM#Cover and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines#Screenshots_and_cover_art. Oren0 (talk) 02:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, use would be valid in an article about the album, but not in the article about the game. The links Oren0 gave are to WikiProject pages, and WikiProjects do not get to establish their own lower standards for articles under their purview. Stifle (talk) 09:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sigh. The decision on whether the soundtrack is its own article or a section of another article is a style choice has no bearing on the minimal-ness or appropriateness of non-free images. Oren0 (talk) 16:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Crosswiseiiitechspec.jpg

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File:Crosswiseiiitechspec.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mathewignash (notify | contribs).

Unused, probably no encyclopedic use. —Bkell (talk) 16:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Arkham flyer.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rebellyon (notify | contribs).

High-resolution, non-free image used in a gallery in Saito Nagasaki#Promoter Career in Western Australia. Fails WP:NFCC #1, #3, and #8. The image description page does say, "full permission to freely distribute this image has been obtained from Outbreed," but there is no evidence provided for this claim, and the image is tagged as non-free. —Bkell (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:DIposterweb.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rebellyon (notify | contribs).

Non-free image used in a gallery in Saito Nagasaki#Promoter Career in Western Australia. Fails WP:NFCC #1 and #8. The image description page does say, "full permission has been obtained from Outbreed to freely use and distribute this poster as it was formerly a web poster," but there is no evidence provided for this claim, and the image is tagged as non-free. —Bkell (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Guys Do It All the Time.jpg

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File:Guys Do It All the Time.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Britneysaints (notify | contribs).

Low quality, doesn't add significantly to reader's understanding (NFCC #8). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 18:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The quality was significantly improved than before. Its omission would be detrimental to reader's understanding. A replaceable non-free image for this song is impossible as the CD cover isn't found. --Britneysaints (talk) 08:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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F1 2010 Logo.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Aervanath (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:F1 2010 Logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Haas9008 (notify | contribs).

Both myself and another user have searched for this logo on the internet, and neither of us can find it. We therefore believe that it is made up, and not real. Darth Newdar (talk) 19:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I concur, delete! Thanks! Fin ©™ 20:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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He Didn't Have to Be.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep--Aervanath (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:He Didn't Have to Be.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Holiday56 (notify | contribs).

Very low quality. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Just Use both. The previous image was the official cover for the promo single but the quality sucks. The second image was for a special version of the promo with a spoken part by Paisley about the songs. You'll have to expand the article so it doesn't look lopsided. Publichall (talk) 03:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Alcohol Brad Paisley.gif

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File:Alcohol Brad Paisley.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Holiday56 (notify | contribs).

Too low quality. Also, it's the sheet music cover and not single cover, and I fail to see how a sheet music cover meets NFCC#8. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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When I Get Where I'm Going.jpg

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File:When I Get Where I'm Going.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Holiday56 (notify | contribs).

Sheet music cover is not the same as single cover. A sheet music cover does not add the same degree of understanding as a single cover, thus failing NFCC#8. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy Delete per F8 See image here Icestorm815 • Talk 22:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:TomDelayin2005.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Joseribamar (notify | contribs).

The first image that was uploaded is Delay's congressional portrait, which is now on Commons. Uploaded over it was the mugshot from his arrest in Texas. The picture is taken from http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1020051delay1.html This is not in the public domain. All images should be deleted as copyvio/redundant because of Commons. Hekerui (talk) 20:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC) Hekerui (talk) 20:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The redundant original was uploaded again. Hekerui (talk) 20:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Ruben.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Aervanath (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ruben.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rubydub (notify | contribs).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic, low quality. Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- (Note: This image was also accidentally transferred to Commons by a malfunctioning bot, but please ignore that — we'll sort that out on Commons.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Self promotion by a person of low notability, out of scope in an Encyclopedia. Sv1xv (talk) 07:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Vanity picture. non-notable. Hekerui (talk) 21:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:ByrdTIME.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Darth Kalwejt (notify | contribs).

I want to replace the fair use picture of Robert Byrd as Senate Majority Leader File:ByrdTIME.jpg with a the free one: File:Robert Byrd Majority Portrait.jpg. A replaceable fair use image can be deleted Hekerui (talk) 22:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a flag for a fictional country ("Fyksland") created by Kvasir (the userspace articles for this fictional country have been deleted; see MfD:Fyksland pages). Listing this flag for deletion as unencyclopedic. Gump Stump (talk) 22:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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