Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 February 5
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't add significantly to understanding of song. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 03:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- orphaned UE personal image Peripitus (Talk) 05:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. Contributor's edit summary was "MAH! I'm a RETARD". •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned UE personal image Peripitus (Talk) 05:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned UE image - intended target (Brad Randall) was deleted (Speedy A7) in 2006 Peripitus (Talk) 05:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph. Apparently this is a photograph of User:BradSox24, who has been absent from Wikipedia for 2½ years. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:PVC ribbon.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mail2amitabha (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, unencyclopedic colour swatch Peripitus (Talk) 05:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Obsolete, replaced by SVG File:Param-Vir-Chakra-ribbon.svg. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Img-cartoon-interview.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mnablu (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no clear encyclopedic use Peripitus (Talk) 05:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No apparent encyclopedic value. An amateurish cartoon of an apparent interview of some sort. Also the contributor added personal information about himself in the picture description. It looks like an attempt to create a MySpace page. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned - can be done within articles now - no clear use for this image Peripitus (Talk) 05:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. A GIF of a math formula that is orphaned and no longer needed. Math formulas can be inserted in Wikipedia articles with Math wiki markup. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Spidernet Switch circuit.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Undergod (notify | contribs).
- ORphaned, possible copyvio (is the uploader the creator ? ) - no clear encyclopedic use in any article I can find Peripitus (Talk) 05:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unknown encyclopedic value, possible copyvio (it appears to be a scan or screenshot). Sole contribution of the user, who has been absent from Wikipedia for 2½ years. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Photo 58.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Shades0404 (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned personal image - no encyclopedic use Peripitus (Talk) 05:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph of unidentified person. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:KennethEBarton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kbarton3 (notify | contribs).
- orphaned personal image of wikipedian Peripitus (Talk) 06:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete, original upload information located at current SVG, therefore fulfills attribution requirement. Andrew c [talk] 16:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- orphaned image redundant to SVG version File:Wep-crypt-alt.svg Peripitus (Talk) 06:11, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Note that the attribution path for the SVG image is to this image. Stannered (talk) 22:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- yes and no - the svg notes that the information is basically from "The Final Nail in WEPs Coffin" by Bittau, Handley, and Lackey - don't see that then we need the png - Peripitus (Talk) 11:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:100 0627.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Pkacarevic1 (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned image. Unidentified location and so of no encyclopedic use Peripitus (Talk) 06:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unidentifiable subject matter, hence no encyclopedic value. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, UE. JaGatalk 07:11, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unidentified and unidentifiable subject matter, hence no encyclopedic value. Photo containing paragraphs of Arabic script; English speakers will have no idea what the script says. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, UE. JaGatalk 07:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unidentified and unidentifiable subject matter, hence no encyclopedic value. Photo containing paragraphs of Arabic script and a picture of some unidentified ayatollah; English speakers will have no idea what the script says. •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:A yoga lesson in front of the pyramids. Trip oganized by G. Blitz, the EUY and Khane.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by HID-IIY (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, UE. JaGatalk 07:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Tiny, fuzzy image of some people with their backs to the camera with the Giza pyramids in the far background. Hard to imagine any encyclopedic use for this photograph. Perhaps the contributor can provide some rationale for this photograph. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphaned image, apparently uploaded to illustrate an article deleted on February 1, 2009 (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ADÄMS (author). See also several images below, apparently from the same article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphaned image, apparently uploaded to illustrate an article deleted on February 1, 2009 (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ADÄMS (author). See also several images below, apparently from the same article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphaned image, apparently uploaded to illustrate an article deleted on February 1, 2009 (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ADÄMS (author). See also several images below, apparently from the same article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphaned image, apparently uploaded to illustrate an article deleted on February 1, 2009 (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ADÄMS (author). See also image below, apparently from the same article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphaned image, apparently uploaded to illustrate an article deleted on February 1, 2009 (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ADÄMS (author). See also several images above, apparently from the same article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Disappear fear budgiedome 1.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Horvendile (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Judging solely from the name of the file, this is apparently a photograph of the band Disappear Fear. However, the image is of such poor quality and so dark that only one of the three persons in the photo is possibly recognizable. In my opinion it is not worth keeping. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Disappear fear budgiedome 2.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Horvendile (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Judging solely from the name of the file, this is apparently a photograph of the band Disappear Fear. However, the image is very poor quality and dark. I will leave up to the community to decide if it worth keeping. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Kasabianshirt.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Omnion 1990 (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Appears to be a photo that someone took of himself in the mirror with a flash, and the face is pixelated out. I can't imagine any encyclopedic use for this image. Additionally delete because Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Chiasig23.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Omnion 1990 (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:29, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphaned, no source info provided for this image. The contributor has a troublesome history of uploading unsourced images, most of which have been deleted or are in the deletion process now. Nor has the contributor seen fit to respond to notices on his talk page. See contributor's talk page. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Dvdsontherunmeeting.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by DVDsOnTheRun (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 07:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. A tiny photograph of the backs of a group of people watching some kind of presentation, the subject of which is not evident. I cannot envision any kind of encyclopedic value for this image. The description provided with the image is "first meeting." The contributor of this image is User:DVDsOnTheRun, who has also contributed photographs of a store named, not surprisingly, DVDs on the Run. •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:VECTOR.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kathy F Anderson (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 08:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphan, no conceivable encyclopedic value. Most likely it was someone's experiment in creating a vector drawing. The sole contribution of the user, 2½ years ago. •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 08:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This image was likely uploaded to illustrate the deleted article Excel Coaches (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Excel Coaches), deleted in July 2006. Additionally, this image was likely lifted from the company's website [1]. •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Tetrisdshighscore.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Super Genus (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 08:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. A screen shot by someone very proud of his high score in Tetris DS. I don't see much encyclopedic value in this image. •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Earth with a pimple(unknown) 011.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sjcarlin (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 08:41, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unidentified and unidentifiable subject matter, hence no encyclopedic value. •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Toseeiceland.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ralphybaby (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 08:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph of three unidentified persons. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Skant.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sajnikanth (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 08:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph of unidentified person, probably the contributor. Contributor absent from Wikipedia over two years. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- File:Dwntwnhamptoncloudy1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Durrock (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, low quality. JaGatalk 09:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- orphaned - unidentified location so no clear encyc use Peripitus (Talk) 09:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Unidentified subject matter; the center of some city. Could be used to illustrate the article on the city, if we knew what city it is. Otherwise useless. Why, oh why, do contributors so often decline to add a description to their uploads? •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- orphaned - uploaded for a deleted article - Jeremy Lipking - Peripitus (Talk) 09:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Photo was uploaded to illustrate an article deleted in April 2007 (see [2]). •••Life of Riley (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:UniversityTutorLogo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Krypton1 (notify | contribs).
- orphaned logo - no encyc use I can see Peripitus (Talk) 09:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphaned image, uploaded in May 2006. No apparent usage since then. •••Life of Riley (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- redundant to commons image File:Dave Arneson.png - commons image has the text removed Peripitus (Talk) 09:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Redundant image with Commons. •••Life of Riley (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Sonata logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Adrielconde (notify | contribs).
- orphaned logo - possibly not free also Peripitus (Talk) 09:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. This image was apparently uploaded to illustrate the article Sonata Arctica. The image was added to that article on May 26, 2006 (see [3]). This logo was removed on June 9, 2006. •••Life of Riley (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Boyd01.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Hubert Derus (notify | contribs).
- orphaned and unidentified streetscape of no encyc use Peripitus (Talk) 09:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unidentified and unidentifiable subject matter, hence no encyclopedic value. •••Life of Riley (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Skeletalformulaofhexene.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Markheaton (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned and unencyclopedic chemical drawing Peripitus (Talk) 09:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Useless image, conveys no useful information. Probably someone's experiment. •••Life of Riley (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Ariel View of Bangkok.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Zainubrazvi (notify | contribs).
- orphaned and unidentified location - no encyc use. Image text says "Photo of somewhere other than Bangkok" but does not specify the location Peripitus (Talk) 09:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Fonsklein.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Vanbusselj (notify | contribs).
- orphaned photo of Alfons Vansteenwegen that is too small for use here. We already have File:Photograph Alfons Vansteenwegen.jpg as a quality free image of him Peripitus (Talk) 09:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Better, larger picture available and used in the subject's article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Unconstrained evaluation.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Risi (notify | contribs).
- orphaned and UE - no encyc use that I can find Peripitus (Talk) 09:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphan, no description, subject of the image is unknown–something to do with donors and recipients, but no other information provided. Judging from the apparent content of the image, this image was possibly uploaded to illustrate an article deleted in August 2006 (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Altruistic economics). •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Constrained evaluation (zero-sum).png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Risi (notify | contribs).
- orphaned and UE - no encyc use that I can find Peripitus (Talk) 09:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Orphan, no description, subject of the image is unknown–something to do with donors and recipients, but no other information provided. Judging from the apparent content of the image, this image was possibly uploaded to illustrate an article deleted in August 2006 (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Altruistic economics). •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 12:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Art naod duga.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Chombyeeee (notify | contribs).
- orphaned personal photo Peripitus (Talk) 09:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete personal photograph, possibly someone's attempt at an art photo. Wikipedia is not MySpace and not a repository of personal photos. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 22:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Phatnug sativa.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Commodore Sloat (notify | contribs).
- blurry photo of a cannabis sativa bud - orphaned and not really clear enough for moving to commons or use here. Peripitus (Talk) 10:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I uploaded this and another photo before I figured out that there were already higher-quality photos on the relevant wikipedia articles; there's no need to keep it. csloat (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: - Withdrawn - with thanks to Life of Riley - Peripitus (Talk) 11:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:IGNOUGATE.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by PankajKhare (notify | contribs).
- orphaned photo of an unidentified location - no encyc use and cannot move to commons with no identifying information Peripitus (Talk) 10:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This is the gateway/entrance to Indira Gandhi National Open University. The photo was added to that article on May 30, 2006 and removed without explanation on January 16, 2007. I have added back into that article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: - Keep - Peripitus (Talk) 03:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Imitation of Life screenshot.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ed Fitzgerald (notify | contribs).
- There are free images of that movie. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Imitation_of_Life_(1934_film). The fair use rationale is disputable. --Britneysaints (talk) 11:11, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Yes there are free images but it's important to note that the free images show the individual cast members only, and are fairly generic. None of them address the specifics of the film or its theme. I strongly feel that this image is far more useful than the free images because it demonstrates the key plot device of the film - none of the free images do this. I have updated the fair use rationale with the following : The image specifically demonstrates the main aspect of the film's plot - the difference in skin colour between the mother character and the daughter character that allows the daughter to deny her racial origins. There are free images of each actress, but they don't show the actresses together, nor do they show anything more than the facial appearance of each actress. Because the film is notable for its depiction of racial differences/similarities and because it was one of the first to deal with this type of racism, it is more meaningful to use an image that clearly shows this. You say the fair use rationale is disputable - but you haven't offered an argument. You haven't even claimed that the free images compare favorably to the unfree image so your point isn't clear. It would be more productive if you explained why you dispute it. Rossrs (talk) 21:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The image does not “significantly" increase readers' understanding of the topic (WP:NFCC#8). Quality is not relevant. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Imitation_of_Life_(1934_film) is acceptable quality. We simply don't use a non-free image when a free one will suffice. Purpose is to show what that movie looked like. --Britneysaints (talk) 02:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- If an image that visually depicts the central theme of the film does not significantly increase reader's understanding of the topic, then it may be time to remove all images from all film articles. I didn't say anything about quality. My comment was related to relevance and substance, and you haven't addressed my comments or the fair use rationale in your reply. We do not use a non free image when a free image will suffice - true. What about when a free image will not suffice? Show me one image from commons that actually depicts the theme of the film, and I'll happily see it used as a substitute. The free images show nothing but a series of head shots. No context. Rossrs (talk) 10:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The image does not “significantly" increase readers' understanding of the topic (WP:NFCC#8). Quality is not relevant. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Imitation_of_Life_(1934_film) is acceptable quality. We simply don't use a non-free image when a free one will suffice. Purpose is to show what that movie looked like. --Britneysaints (talk) 02:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - In fact, the image does significantly increase a reader's understanding of the topic of the film for which this image is used. None of the handful of images available at commons illustrate the differences between the two characters and in fact it is nearly impossible to discern what those images are of, much less illustrate anything. A barely visible image showing Claudette Colbert and Louise Beavers does not illustrate the difference between Louise Beavers and Fredi Washington. Meanwhile, you've triple tagged the image, edited contentiously over this and are not addressing anything of substantiative value in the use of images on this article. You replaced one non-free use image with another at one point and removed the only actually visible free use image with another that is barely discernable. I see no good faith effort to improve the quality of the article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - The image presents two of the film's featured actresses, and reinforces the discussion in the article about the racial misapprension that is central to the film. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 07:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Picture allows the reader to see the plot-central colour difference between the two actresses, in the same frame, with the actual lighting and actual makeup as actually shown in the film. Jheald (talk) 20:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: - Keep - Peripitus (Talk) 03:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Imitation of Life poster2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ed Fitzgerald (notify | contribs).
- There is the film's original theatrical release poster (File:Imitation of Life 1934 original film poster.jpg). I feel that this image fails WP:MOSFILM#image, and this serves no further purpose for identifying that movie. --Britneysaints (talk) 11:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep There is no difference in the copyright status of the image you have uploaded - File:Imitation of Life 1934 original film poster.jpg -and this image that you are listing for deletion. You've been involved in a content dispute over various aspects of the article in question, and all I can see is that you have a personal preference for a particular image and you are attempting to use this venue to force your choice of image. This image was uploaded in July 2008. You uploaded a different image on February 5, and when that was reverted, you uploaded this one. Again - the copyright status is no different and that is the only thing we should be discussing here. WP:MOSFILM#image is a guideline only and it says "ideally" the original poster should be used. It's not mandatory. Are you claiming that you've uploaded the "original" poster of the various possibilities that exist? On what basis? "Your" image is not the widely used, general release poster as it shows specific dates relating to a "trade show". This suggests limited use of the poster at the time of the film's release. In fact it strongly suggests it was used to promote a single event, ie a trade show at the Prince Edward Theater at 8.45 pm on December 17. The image you are wanting removed does not contain any such limitations, so it's reasonable to conclude that it was used more widely. You need to come up with a better reason for deletion and settle your content dispute elsewhere. Rossrs (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No, I uploaded the "original film poster", and another "alternate poster" - at first, I thought that http://posters.motechnet.com/title/tt0025301/ was original poster, which was reverted. File:Imitation of Life poster2.jpg looks like a lobby card, or later poster for the re-release. I don't have personal preference for any particular image, and have not been involved in a content dispute over "various aspects" of the article in question. Just because Mos isn't mandatory does not mean you get to ignore it on a whim. Guidelines are not arbitrary nor without meaning and importance. --Britneysaints (talk) 22:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You're aiming to replace one unfree image with another unfree image - of your choosing. That's the essence of it isn't it? This isn't the right venue. You prefer the use of one over the other, don't you? This is a content dispute. The guideline supports your viewpoint but it is a guideline only, and it's up to individual editors to negotiate how it is applied, but in this case, it conflicts with the views of other interested editors, who may have an opinion if you did the right thing and attempted to discuss it. Again, that's a content dispute. The edit history of the article shows you reverting more than one editor without explaining why or engaging in discussion. More evidence of content dispute. This is not the right path. Take it to the article talk page please. Rossrs (talk) 07:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- And the "various aspects" of your content dispute, which you deny, are in evidence here. Saying it doesn't exist, doesn't make it so. Rossrs (talk) 07:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Two points, there is no distinction between the lobby poster and the lobby card for a film. They are both released with the film and fall under the same auspices. Secondly, as Rossrs stated, this is a content dispute. Although you have never edited the article until you took exception to content posted by another editor, you have attacked every image on the page, including replacing a visually discernable image with one that has poor, to negligible visual quality. This is not the venue for your objection, replacing one unfree image with another. Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - This poster (or lobby card, the distinction is immaterial) is in color, and its small size makes it superior for display in the infobox, where it takes up less space than the black and white image preferred by the nominating editor. Policy does not make a distiction between the two images, both are non-free and used under fair-use doctrine. This one, however, is superior is all ways to the alternative. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 01:37, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 22:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I originally uploaded this image for "Exalted". However the image is no longer being used for anything. Axl ¤ [Talk] 11:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:GhostLightDoctor.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Blaine Coughlan (notify | contribs).
- Does not increase understanding of subject, breaking fair use criteria 8 Eleventh Doctor (talk) 14:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In the current form, delete. Would need in-article referenced commentary to change to keep; e.g., the hat was removed as part of the drive to make the Doctor more enigmatic in the "Cartmel masterplan" (I made that up, but still...) Sceptre (talk) 13:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Pullmanstrikelarge.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Greenmountainboy (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no description (other than title), source, date, or solid evidence for PD license. dave pape (talk) 16:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Judging from the title, presumably this photograph illustrates the Pullman Strike. Since that strike occurred in 1894, the photograph would most likely be out of copyright and in the public domain. It is, however, not a great photograph. All that is evident in the picture is a crowd of people on the street of some city. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, the strike is presumably what it's supposed to be. But there's no source given to verify it, or to prove that it was actually published (as opposed to taken) before 1923. --dave pape (talk) 01:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 22:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, little encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 16:11, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Orphaned, to be sure, but surely could find uses for, say, Monster Energy (if there's an article) or about energy drinks. Nyttend (talk) 05:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It is, however, a {{derivative}} work of the Monster logo, and as such should be tagged non-free. --dave pape (talk) 01:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. There is in fact an article on Monster Energy. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Holly chick.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Artorius6002 (notify | contribs).
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:11, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. This photo was uploaded to illustrate the article German Coolie and was added to that article on June 12, 2006 (see [4]) but is no longer used in that article. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. The external link on the image page leads to the page of a person who is apparently a graphic artist. This image may have been uploaded to create a link to the artist's page. The uploader has been absent from Wikipedia for 2½ years. See the user's contributions page for some other samples of the same contributor's artwork, most of which are nominated for deletion below. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:14, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:14, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. Found at "Orphaned images in Category:Self-published work". JaGatalk 22:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGatalk 22:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Part of a gallery of the contributor's artwork. No apparent encyclopedic value in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: delete per consensus. -Nv8200p talk 23:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Azeri lost lands.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Baku87 (notify | contribs).
- Map is not supported by any sources. Creators was having wet dreams of Great Azerbaijan when he created the map. Neophyteinc (talk) 23:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually this is a very interesting map, but the file name and the description summary are totally wrong. The green area is correctly drawn, but it was never part of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic and so was never "lost by Azerbaijan": before 1924 it was always disputed territory claimed by different Transcaucasian countries. Sources for the green area should be provided and the name/description must be changed. Then it can be kept.--Zlerman (talk) 03:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The map is very controversial. Azerbaijan in 1918 had no de-jure borders since it was not de-jure recognised. This maps shows disputed territories as Syunik, Vayots Dzor, Tavush, Nagorno-Karabakh, Gegharkunik as "Azeri lost lands", but Azerbaijan had nor de-facto control over them nor were they predominantly Azeris inhabitted. I think it is simpely a fabrication of history. --Vacio (talk) 07:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually this is a very interesting map, but the file name and the description summary are totally wrong. The green area is correctly drawn, but it was never part of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic and so was never "lost by Azerbaijan": before 1924 it was always disputed territory claimed by different Transcaucasian countries. Sources for the green area should be provided and the name/description must be changed. Then it can be kept.--Zlerman (talk) 03:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Armenia had no de-jure recognition either, yet we have this map here: [5] which is a fantasy, and is taken from Armenica.com. Armenia never controlled Nakhchivan, however the Armenica map shows it as part of Armenia. On the other hand, the borders of Azerbaijan in 1918 - 1920 are shown in this book: [6] So we have a reliable source for the map that is being discussed here. Grandmaster 05:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You are becoming totally ridiculous. Those are not even the borders claimed by the representatives from Baku. Nakhichevan fell in July 1920, when the Armenian forces were pulled by a joint Turkish and Bolshevik army (not to say, it was part of Russian Armenia). The Turkic population of Nakhichevan felt connected to those of Kars rather than the nationalists in Baku. Both Baku Tatars and the Turks of Turkey laid claims on Nakhichevan. As for Artsakh, that's also ridiculous, given that it had its own running government and never was in the hands of Azerbaijan from 1918-1920, neither de facto nor de jure (British de facto appointed Tatar governor never had any control). Your comparaison with the map on Armenica.org is dishonest, as the December 1918 US recognized de jure republic of Armenia, had actually those Western borders. It was under those pretext that the Turkish army penetrated Nakhichevan and conducted a series of massacres, as they were claiming Nakhichevan for themselves. Beside you very well know the source of Armenica map is not biased, and it kept the original source information by placing NK as disputed. Beside, the self declared Tatar prince of Nakhichevan never accepted authority coming from Baku. We have again a demonstration, that any map can be fabricated without a proper credible source and would survive because of editors who place other interests prior to those of Wikipedia. VartanM (talk) 09:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- First, Armenia had no de-jure recognition. Second, Armenia had no control over Nakhichevan, which it claimed. Third, there was no such thing as Russian Armenia, there was Erivan Governorate, a Russian province, which included Nakhichevan, however it had nothing to do with Armenian statehood, as it was ruled by the Russian governors. And as I said above, the map by Baku87 is supported by a reliable third party source. [7] And Karabakh was recognized as part of Azerbaijan, it had an Azerbaijani governor, appointed by the British, who was in control of the region. At least he controlled all the major settlements there, unlike the Republic of Armenia, which controlled nothing in Nakhichevan. So this map is as good as that by Baku87. If we keep one, then there's no reason to delete the other. Grandmaster 06:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your source says nowhere that the aforecited districts were part of ADR in 1918-1920. The Azerbaijani governor of Karabakh was never accepted by the People's Government of Karabakh. And stop equating a map from an academical source with an original image illustrating nationalistic illusions. You know very well that the areas you claim as lost Azeri lands were disputed areas, they had no de-jure status and in the most cases not even a stable de-facto status. --Vacio (talk) 07:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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