Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 October 11
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- The Habit of Art (history · last edit) from http://www.officiallondontheatre.co.uk/london_shows/show/item107153/The-Habit-Of-Art/. Relist. Contributor not notified. Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:27, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Jacksonville Developmental Center (history · last edit) from http://www.mantenostatehospital.com/jacksonville.html, http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/di/252__002.htm, and http://www.kirkbridebuildings.com/buildings/jacksonville/. Some parts are copied directly from the source, and some are too closely paraphrased. The article needs to be rewritten or turned into a stub. Theleftorium 10:03, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Elgin State Hospital may contain a copyvio as well. Theleftorium 14:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- See also User_talk:Racepacket#Jacksonville_Developmental_Center and User_talk:Theleftorium#Jacksonville. Theleftorium 20:44, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- One of those sources seems to have disappeared, and I can't find it in archive. However, I see close paraphrasing in Jacksonville Developmental Center from one source and have tagged it accordingly. I didn't see anything at Elgin State Hospital. If you've spotted a problem, can you point it out? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Odd. I thought I saw a few sentences in that article that were copied from the sources, but I guess I was wrong. Theleftorium 18:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Turns out it was just a small bit that was copied from [1]: "The board of trustees and the Board of State Commissioners of Public Charities were abolished in 1909 when control of all state charitable institutions passed to the newly created Board of Administration. As part of this reorganization the institution became Elgin State Hospital [...]" Theleftorium 19:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks! The plagiarism checker I use is not the most sensitive instrument in the world, and it helps me a lot to zero in on problem areas. I'll look at it more closely now. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Unless [2] is in the public domain, Kankakee Mental Health Center also contains a copyvio. All articles in Template:Illinois State Hospitals probably need to be investigated. Theleftorium 19:15, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- I revised the sentence at Elgin State Hospital to separate it from the source because it was brief and easy and because whether it was copyrighted or not its use baldly without indication of direct quotation is a problem under our current Wikipedia:Plagiarism guideline. But if we're talking about multiple articles by multiple contributors, then I need to check into it. Some states have PD public records and some do not. I don't know about Illinois. I've asked User:Dreadstar, since he contributed to your last example and since he will probably be able to help clarify. If Illinois' public records are pd, they should be added to WP:Public records. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:49, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- That text is taken directly from the Illinois Secretary of State's website (which hosts the archival info). According to their notice here, Information presented on the Secretary of State’s web site is considered public information and may be distributed or copied. — CactusWriter | needles 06:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I guess the question is whether that permits modification or not, since our license also requires that. I'll ask at WT:C and WT:PD. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- That text is taken directly from the Illinois Secretary of State's website (which hosts the archival info). According to their notice here, Information presented on the Secretary of State’s web site is considered public information and may be distributed or copied. — CactusWriter | needles 06:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- I revised the sentence at Elgin State Hospital to separate it from the source because it was brief and easy and because whether it was copyrighted or not its use baldly without indication of direct quotation is a problem under our current Wikipedia:Plagiarism guideline. But if we're talking about multiple articles by multiple contributors, then I need to check into it. Some states have PD public records and some do not. I don't know about Illinois. I've asked User:Dreadstar, since he contributed to your last example and since he will probably be able to help clarify. If Illinois' public records are pd, they should be added to WP:Public records. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:49, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Unless [2] is in the public domain, Kankakee Mental Health Center also contains a copyvio. All articles in Template:Illinois State Hospitals probably need to be investigated. Theleftorium 19:15, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks! The plagiarism checker I use is not the most sensitive instrument in the world, and it helps me a lot to zero in on problem areas. I'll look at it more closely now. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- One of those sources seems to have disappeared, and I can't find it in archive. However, I see close paraphrasing in Jacksonville Developmental Center from one source and have tagged it accordingly. I didn't see anything at Elgin State Hospital. If you've spotted a problem, can you point it out? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- See also User_talk:Racepacket#Jacksonville_Developmental_Center and User_talk:Theleftorium#Jacksonville. Theleftorium 20:44, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Karla Homolka (history · last edit) from page 10-12 or [3] (same thing). Nearly completely word for word. Since it's been a while some may think it's possibly the reverse but I don't believe so because 1) the URL appears to be the new URL for the source we link to 2) The odd citation format which is source X citing source Y The work was contributed by User talk:Freiherrin who has contributed to a few related articles extensively but doesn't seem active anymore here. So it's possible more of the article or the other articles is copyvio, I would appreciate it if someone could check Nil Einne (talk) 13:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm looking at it now. In case I don't have time to finish, I'll note that in this series of edits, there seems to be some close paraphrasing of a cited source. There's no doubt that in this edit, infringement was added from [4]. I'm running the current article through my trusty plagiarism detector, which isn't actually all that awesome, but which does help. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- I've found more extensive vios on this and have relisted it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Cleaned. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- I've found more extensive vios on this and have relisted it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm looking at it now. In case I don't have time to finish, I'll note that in this series of edits, there seems to be some close paraphrasing of a cited source. There's no doubt that in this edit, infringement was added from [4]. I'm running the current article through my trusty plagiarism detector, which isn't actually all that awesome, but which does help. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- 12th Pioneers (The Kelat-i-Ghilzie Regiment) (history · last edit) from http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armyunits/indianinfantry/12thpioneers.htm. Contrib acknowledges copy / paste issue and vows to fix them. Nominated to remove from display and to ensure a fallback if the change doesn't happen. MLauba (talk) 21:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- No activity in the past seven + one. Deleted accordingly. I'll leave him a note to let him know that I can give him the non-copyrighted elements of the page if he needs them. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:33, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Arnold M. Auerbach (history · last edit) Article content substantially self-identifies as his obituary from The Independent newspaper, uploaded by a close relative. It would be nice to see something salvaged, rather than summary deletion; but I can't offer to take it on myself. Jheald (talk) 20:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Creator wasn't notified. Templated the article, notified editor and relisted to oct 11. — CactusWriter | needles 21:26, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Reverted to pre-copyvio and revised text. — CactusWriter | needles 08:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Mario Frittoli (history · last edit) from http://mario-frittoli.com/mario. From WP:SCV, attempts at rewriting done but ends up as a very close paraphrase of the source. MLauba (talk) 21:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Done CC-BY-SA added to source page. MLauba (talk) 08:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Gedeon quijano (history · last edit) from [5]. Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 23:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Noel Loomis (history · last edit) from [6]. Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 23:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Mathematical diagram (history · last edit) (url not detected). Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 23:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Relisting to allow time for editors to address issue. — CactusWriter | needles 08:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)