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  • Article was tagged speedy, I moved it here. The issue to me is whether the list is merely information under Feist. If the list represents editorial choices, that is "it possesses at least some minimal degree of creativity," then a copyright seems to apply. If not, I don't see the copyright as applicable. In this case, the determination of Who is a Jew? might represent an editorial choice, ergo make the list fall under copyright. For instance, the inclusion of John Harsanyi, whose parents converted from Judaism to Catholicism before his birth, may be an example of editorial decision-making. My inclination is towards deletion. I should note, however, I am not a lawyer and copyright subtleties are not much in my line. What are other folks thoughts? --TeaDrinker (talk) 06:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • See also the discussions: [3]and [4].Jinfo (talk) 14:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please note that a previous Wikipedia article "List of Jewish Nobel laureates" (which like this one was copied off JINFO.ORG without permission, but at least with attribution) was nominated for deletion two years ago, with the consensus decision on 22 July 2007 having been to delete: [5]. The issue at that time was category relevance, not copyright infringement. Does a single editor with no history on Wikipedia get to unilaterally override such consensus deliberations and decisions? Jinfo (talk) 14:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • This list is clearly idiosyncratic. Even the contributor who placed the text indicates that over 10% of the entries listed do not appear in similar lists. As indicated above, I wrote to our attorney about this matter. He indicates that, if there is an appropriate point of placement, a link to this website might be appropriate. If there are lists of Jewish Nobel prizewinners that are otherwise available, it may be appropriate to utilize these. Leaving aside the AfD which resulted in delete last time (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of atheist Nobel laureates (2nd nomination)), this version of this article is unusable. Note that the contributor who placed it here seemed determined to restore this text at multiple points outside of process, removing the copyvio template and comments by other contributors about the matter (including those of the website's owner). Additionally, he or she pasted text pasted from another page onto my user talk here. Any new versions of this article should be checked to be sure that they do not also infringe on this source. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]