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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.‎

The result was merge to AI alignment. Salvio giuliano 12:14, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Waluigi effect

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Re-nomination. The topic appears to be a neologism with limited uptake in reliable secondary sources, fails WP:NEO and WP:N. Coverage is primarily primary/derivative commentary and blogs rather than significant independent sources, so it does not meet WP:GNG or WP:RS. If independent, in-depth sourcing exists, it has not been demonstrated in the article.

There is no indication of notability for the term "Waluigi effect" per WP:GNG or WP:FRINGE. The term is not recognized in reliable sources as a phenomenon in large language models (LLMs) or artificial intelligence (AI). Per WP:RS, it appears to have originated from a personal blog post by a crypto blogger on Substack in 2023[1] and was subsequently discussed on LessWrong and in some online forums. While a conference paper cites LessWrong as a source, there is no significant coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. The term is not established within the AI or machine learning field. Research on related topics, such as "sleeper agents" in AI, has been published by frontier labs under different terminology[2]. The "Waluigi effect" does not meet Wikipedia's notability or reliable sourcing standards and is not an accepted term of art in the field. 0xReflektor (talk) 06:28, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Sources do not sufficiently support the name of the effect. If the article is merged, AI alignment makes sense as a target. Sushidude21! (talk) 06:04, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://coryeth.substack.com/p/the-waluigi-effect
  2. ^ https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.05566
Waluigi is the Mario (franchise) character this effect gets its name from. While the AI Waluigi effect has an etymological connection to the character, it could be tricky to merge such disparate content. —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 15:10, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well it's the only target that makes sense given the conscious decision to name it after Waluigi. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:20, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, the article is not about Waluigi, at all... Merko (talk) 17:57, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio giuliano 06:35, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://fortune.com/2023/05/27/what-is-waluigi-effect-artificial-intelligence-personal-assistant-bill-gates/

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/podcasts/hard-fork-don-beyer-tiktok.html) and it even has a Know Your Meme article now, so probs should be kept. If not should me merged Zulresso! :D (talk) 23:55, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep or Merge to AI alignment. There does seem to be some mention of this in RS; I'd be more inclined to just request additional citations. Still, the phenomenon in question has everything to do with AI and nothing to do with Waluigi, so if it is to be merged, the place to put it is obvious. Endovior (talk) 22:36, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merged or Deleted, The concept discussed here is not a legitimate fringe belief, but rather a buzzword that originated from a blog post. It has only gained academic attention because some papers cited LessWrong as a source creating circular attribution pointing back to the blog post. By hosting this article, Wikipedia inadvertently legitimizes this concept when people search to verify its authenticity. We take greater lengths to flag fringe beliefs that are minority positions in scholarship, yet somehow seem willing to maintain this article that documents an off-hand Substack theory. 0xReflektor (talk) 05:23, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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