Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Voice computing

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Sandstein 09:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Voice computing

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Created by an editor with a clear WP:COI; appears to be a WP:CFORK of Speech recognition. The only references that use this term appear to be by the page creator. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:36, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This nomination is way off. The claim that this is a content fork of speech recognition does not stand up. Voice computing is much broader than that – the "other end" of voice computing is speech synthesis (sadly, not currently linked from the article) which cannot by any stretch be included in speech recognition. Also not standing up is the claim that this is a neoligism invented by the author. A simple gbooks WP:BEFORE search would have shown this. Here's a usage of the term way back in 1987. Unarguably notable subject: Talk to me : how voice computing will transform the way we live, work, and think is a book not written by Schwoebel and gscholar shows plenty of scholarly papers using the term. SpinningSpark 11:17, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think this is a valid topic, however there seems to be overlapping of information between the two articles and other separate articles. There is a good premise to Voice computing however I think it needs an overhaul. I think the article could work and could be kept if sorted out. Govvy (talk) 12:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I agree there probably needs a bit of an overhaul to this article. I wrote the bulk of this yesterday. In regards to the conflict - yes, I did write a textbook in voice computing; however, I've tried to write the article in a neutral view. It would be good to do some more research on the definition of the term, as it's often used in many different ways by the media and can be confused with conversational computing. It's partly why I wanted to start a Wikipedia article, as I think we can all collaborate on a definition that we all agree on :-). Nonetheless, if the article is not removed, happy to spend a week or so editing it and review it with the team here to make it suitable and sufficiently non-overlapping with other articles. Jim Schwoebel (talk) 15:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I still think this needs to be deleted. Some of the terminology definitions (A voice computer is assembled hardware and software to process voice inputs.) appear to have no references or usage whatsoever. None of the conferences listed refer to voice recognition. The whole article is original research. And I don't dispute that speech recognition is a notable topic, nor do I claim that voice computing is a hapax legomenon of Schwoebel. Some of the sources use it to refer to Voice command devices. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

- Keep. Reread WP:COI please. It only says that an external academic role can trigger a COI. It absolutely does not say that academics are not welcome to contribute in their domain of expertise. Welcome Jim, thank you for contributing to WP, and don't let this misguided deletion proposal discourage you. -- Oisguad (talk) 20:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - I re-read it. Adding In August 2018, Jim Schwoebel released a book (Introduction to Voice Computing in Python) with a GitHub repository. with references to his own LinkedIn and Amazon.com pages is very clearly a COI violation. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:28, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - Deleting one sentence will fix that. No need to delete the whole article. SpinningSpark 22:28, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - I deleted that paragraph. XOR'easter (talk) 17:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The topic is notable – see Voice in Computing: An Overview of Available Technologies, for example. The rest is then a matter of ordinary editing per WP:IMPERFECT and WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 09:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.