Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transformers human characters batch nomination

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Ignoring the "just unencyclopaedic" and the sockpuppet nominator, nobody is in favour of deletion but it seems nobody can make up their minds on exactly what to do with these articles. I'd suggest that furtherr discussion on merging/redirecting/listifying or anything other than deletion take place on a relevant talk page. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 04:32, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Transformers human characters batch nomination

I am nominating the following articles on fictional humans within the Transformers franchise for deletion due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable sources to substantiate notability:

I believe that none of these articles satisfy the notability criteria and that the content within them is unverifiable using reliable secondary sources. Claritas § 21:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

delete, per nominator. This is not encyclopedic. WildHorsesPulled (talk) 21:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, Since they are all related so much, they probably deserve to be merged on a list of characters from the Transformers fiction. Mathewignash (talk) 22:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with merging is that none of the information contained in these article can be verified by reliable secondary sources. Claritas § 22:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have books about anime that would verfy the existence of the anime characters. The characters like Doubleclouder or Go Shooter could easily redirect to a list of characters from the Masterforce anime. The ones from Marvel Comics to the Marvel Comics Transformers page, and Chip Chase, Marissa Fairborns and Lord C. should be on a list of characters from the 1984 Transformers TV series. Mathewignash (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 23:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Mathewignash. Just because these characters are currently inadequately sourced does not mean that they can never be sourced. Merging to lists is the best option for topics where 1) we generally agree that independent notability is unlikely to be established, but 2) they are elements of a notable fictional franchise, and 3) the content can be verified, even if just by primary sources. Jclemens (talk) 23:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Creating such a list would be a violation of Wikipedia's policy on primary sources, which states that it is inappropriate to create an article based only upon primary sources. A list is a type of article. Claritas § 10:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listify with nary any content merged -- current content is in-universe and uncited; clumping it into a merged list just move but doesn't solve the problem. Perhaps just migrate the lead of each article. --EEMIV (talk) 11:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as per Mathewignash. Edward321 (talk) 22:42, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Listify/merge as a compromise. Let's see if someone can take several inappropriate (unsourced) articles and somehow turn them into a decent list. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Listify and only keep the more prominent characters as redirects. NotARealWord (talk) 12:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge them somewhere if somewhere appropriate exists if anyone cares enough, do not create an new article to house them. Throwing several bad articles into a heap does not suddenly make a good article. J Milburn (talk) 16:44, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into the G1 character list if the characters are a reoccurring character, otherwise redirect to the episode list entry that the individual character appears in. —Farix (t | c) 21:55, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Notability improved - I added a good book citation from a third party publisher about this character. Hope this helps establish notability. Mathewignash (talk) 22:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.