Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of alternative rock

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:22, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of alternative rock

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

WP:LISTCRUFT. This is just a long list of bands and albums which may or may not be alternative rock. It barely has any prose and references. Users can easily add what they think as alternative rock bands/albums without explaining the importance of their inclusion. The same should be done to Timeline of heavy metal and hard rock music. Enjoyer of World^💬 09:06, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because similar reasons above:

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Enjoyer of World^💬 09:06, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Enjoyer of World^💬 09:06, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Enjoyer of World^💬 07:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both - per WP:TNT if nothing else. There’s no discernible “timeline” to be found, just a massive sprawling list of random factoids without sources, loosely in chronological order. No flow or methodology at all. As someone who writes a lot of “year in music” articles, I am sympathetic to how much time and effort it takes to write just about a single year. But that’s all the more reason to think that this isn’t heading towards being cleaned up any time soon. Sergecross73 msg me 15:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both, per nom and Sergecross. Listcruft at its best (or worst?). GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 17:12, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - redundant articles. Any relevant info can and, in fact, is already covered with wonderful prose in the fantastic articles that are Alternative rock, Heavy metal music and Hard rock. There is nothing at all worth keeping from these Spiderone 18:11, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Alternative rock#History - Seems like a reasonable alternative to me. Foxnpichu (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Both - I agree with everyone above. Such timelines are inherently nonsensical due to the shifting definitions of "alternative rock", "hard rock", and "heavy metal", and are restricted to bands that the author is familiar with. Also redundant to the much better history sections in the main genre articles. DOOMSDAYER520 | TALK | CONTRIBS 02:40, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both per WP:NOTIINFO and excessive original research. Ajf773 (talk) 09:56, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both per all of the above. // Timothy :: talk 08:15, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both per the above comments. Aoba47 (talk) 21:25, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.