Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tiffany Trump (3rd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was snow keep. The previous AfD closed as "keep" last week, why not improve the article instead of starting deletion debates you won't win? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:29, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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No evidence of any independent notability. The daughter of a far-right politician, but notability is not inherited. Tataral (talk) 06:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note that I wasn't aware of previous deletion discussions, but I still think it's clear that a young student who happens to be the daughter of a candidate for a political office should absolutely not have a biographical article, and at best only a redirect to her father's biography. --Tataral (talk) 06:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- Look at readers' interest in the article (in the last 20 days). On average, some 5,000 to 10,000 readers have tried to get information about Tiffany Trump. On 19 July, the number topped 200,000. If interest is that high, information should not be denied to the reader. In other words, the article should not be deleted. --Lektor w (talk) 06:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- Interest is nice, but not the only reason to keep a page; Wikipedia pages exist because the subject is notable, not popular. 331dot (talk) 08:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I think the fact she spoke at the Convention means there are probably enough RS to permit a page on her, and if she makes campaign appearances there will be further sources. I have also read that Donald Trump's kids are influential in his campaign so we may see sources on that as well. 331dot (talk) 08:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- I would add it has only been two weeks since the previous AfD and the reasons don't seem to have changed much. 331dot (talk) 08:09, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- Speedy procedural Keep and shame on Nom for this disruptive AFD, the previosu AFD closed as KEEP on 13 July. Appropriately as per: WP:INHERIT which explicitly states that: "Individuals in close, personal relationships with famous people (including politicians) can have an independent article even if they are known solely for such a relationship, but only if they pass WP:GNG." This girl is "known solely for" being the famous daughter of a famous man. She's famous for being famous. Since her dad got nominated for President, she's even more famous. Do I see a point to all this publicity? No, but that's me, I would also like to vote the Karsashians off the island. But I do recognize that - like the Kardashians - Tiffany is famous for being famous.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep The nominator is correct in saying that notability is not inherited; however, we cannot dismiss any coverage Tiffany Trump receives, on the grounds that she is Donald Trump's daughter. A fair number of the sources examine her as an individual, such as this, or this, or this. She meets GNG, in my view. Additionally, while I acknowledge that popularity and notability are not the same, it does rub me the wrong way to delete a page that has received 300,000 views (!) in the month of July alone. Finally, she is a speaker at the Republican National Convention; and while she is unlikely to have been there but for her father, the fact remains that she is a speaker at one of the two largest political events in the country. Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:32, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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