Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shrikrishna Upadhyay

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Deor (talk) 14:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shrikrishna Upadhyay

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Subject does not appear to have any claims to notability other than the Right Livelihood Award. Salimfadhley (talk) 21:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The Right Livelihood Award satisfies WP:ANYBIO: 1. "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor". 24.151.10.165 (talk) 23:30, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nepal-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 00:17, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Notable as an awardee of Right Livelihood Award, entepreneur and writer. —Ascii002 (Talk • Contribs • Sign my Guestbook) 00:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Question As I originally stated in the proposal, this subject's notability rests entirely on the inherent notability of receiving an award. Is the Right Livliehood Award a "significant" and "well known" honor? I do not think it is well known at all and has received only modest coverage. An example of something truly significant and well known might be the Nobel Prize or a Fields Medal. --Salimfadhley (talk) 08:31, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As with most things, we look to reliable sources. The Swedish Government The 2013 Right Livelihood Laureates announced and press from around the world attest to the significance and awareness of the award. See, e.g. (not all links are about this particular recipient), Washington Post and Associated Press, The Independent and Nepali Times. Yes, there are awards that are even more well known but the guideline does not read "has received one of the most well-known or significant awards or honors". 24.151.10.165 (talk) 15:28, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Surely, though, if there's literally no other significant mentions of him, at most we can support including a brief biography on, say, "List of recipitants of the Right Livelihood Award" - not a stand-alone article? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:37, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While English language sources may be sparse for now, there may well be more in Nepali and other languages that will become translated over time. I see the purpose of additional guidelines such as WP:ANYBIO as suggesting alternative bases for notability for those who may not currently meet WP:BASIC at the time someone receives an award. If he hasn't received additional coverage or Nepali language speakers don't show up here by some years after his death, future editors could surely revisit this. In the meantime, I believe we should try very hard to be inclusive toward regions of the world about which our covergage is sparse. See WP:WORLDVIEW. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2014 (UTC) And it can also take westerners like me awhile to realize that we shouldn't be searching for sources using a name with the honorific (Shri, Sri, Shree) attached. All the more reason not to be so quick to pull the trigger. 19:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's Speculation. Note that WP:ANYBIO - the "won an award" criterion you're quoting - is part of a section that starts by saying "conversely, meeting one or more [of these] does not guarantee that a subject should be included." 01:49, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Is it really a well-known and significant award? Really? So much that it overrules all other notability criteria? To the point that the only sources mentioning him are brief mentions of the award? Even with the award, there's no evidence of significant coverage in secondary sources. The award may be just notable enough to include a list of recipients, with a one-paragraph biography in the article on the award, but if there's no sources, it's clearly not enough for a stand-alone article on the person. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 14:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I should have caught this earlier, but we really should be searching for him without the honorific, thus, "Krishna Upadhyay". Immediate hits such as [1], [2] and [3]. My opinion is that he now passes WP:BASIC as well as WP:ANYBIO. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 19:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just so we're clear for the future, ANYBIO, in itself, is not sufficient to establish notability by itself:

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Additional criteria

People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.

A person who fails to meet these additional criteria may still be notable under Wikipedia:Notability. Editors may find these criteria helpful when deciding whether to tag an article as requiring additional citations (using {{BLP sources}} for example), or to instead initiate a deletion discussion.

Any biography

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The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times.

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam Cuerden (talk • contribs) 01:52, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I have modified the previous comment to stop it from messing up later AfD nominations. Bad idea to copypaste pages into an AfD like that. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:56, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets GNG, notable person.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article cites significant coverage in the Nepali Times and The Washington Post. The Right Livelihood Award is legitimate. The Google Books searches linked above show plenty of discussion of the subject. Obviously a notable individual. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As per Aymatth2 and passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep found lots of coverages in the Nepali Times, including this persons of the year award.^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdventurousMe (talk • contribs) 02:17, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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