Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reset button technique (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The page needs a lot of work but there was a clear consensus for keeping and there are no policy considerations that would over-rule that consensus. As as been pointed out, AfD is not a cleanup squad. TerriersFan (talk) 04:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reset button technique

Original research not supported by reliable sources. A Google search only turned up forums and mirrors to this article. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but drastically improve. Much of this article IS, as the nomination says, original research. However, the concept is notable. I did a quick Google search for "reset button" storytelling and this was the first reliable source I found that used the phrase in a discussion of the concept. There are likely more. It's not perfect, but it's better than having no article. Croctotheface (talk) 06:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but as above, impove. The "Voyager Reset Button" is infamious in Star Trek:Voyager and Memory Alpha has some info about it to:

This episode — along with TNG: "Cause and Effect", "Yesterday's Enterprise"; DS9: "The Visitor", "Visionary", "Children of Time"; VOY: "Year of Hell", "Year of Hell, Part II"; and ENT: "E²", as well as the entirety of the Temporal Cold War arc — form a genre of episode that some fans called the "Bad Dream" or "Reset Button". In each of these episodes, a substantially altered future, or past, is presented to the audience. The drama of the episode is then derived from the characters taking some action which restores the time line entirely, such that the events originally depicted in the episode never occurred.

From here - Fosnez (talk) 07:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There was a brief but interesting discussion on this, recently, in the article discussion page. I agree with one of those editor and with Croctotheface above: '"reset button technique"' yield no interesting Ghits, but other searches as '"reset button" tv show' or '"reset button" [your favourite tv show]' do. Just as a random sample, the former gives web pages about the recent "reset" in Spiderman continuity, about some reset in Galactica, a page in the tvtropes.org wiki and so on (I am not saying these are valid sources: I am just saying this is, even at first glance, a phrase actually used). So, at most, one could advocate a name change to, say, Reset button (narratology) (and more sources and a general trimming of examples). Goochelaar (talk) 13:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep I haven't seen this topic discussed in the news, but it is a common thing to do in stories, especially in the science fiction realm. Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 16:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless improved. Sorry, I can't in good conscience argue to keep what is clearly OR. It's non-negotiable. - Chardish (talk) 18:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sufficient sources available under various names. DGG (talk) 09:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
keep please see previous AfD. For example it's use here: http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showreview.php3?ID=8250 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hobit (talk • contribs) 01:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per previous AfD. We need an article on this. AfD is not cleanup. Greswik (talk) 20:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.