Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Project Morpheus (virtual reality)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:13, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Project Morpheus (virtual reality)

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Delete per WP:CRYSTAL Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:02, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Redirect~~ to Playstation 4, where it's already discussed (under the header "Companion Devices"). It can be split back out if/when it has enough coverage on its own. ansh666 02:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and improve per below. ansh666 20:05, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 13:38, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Coverage on this is extensive, there's no shortage of sources to be supplied on this. The PS4 page is a massive 87K bytes, and doesn't need another thing expanding it further. Besides, it gets lost in the mix there. Sergecross73 msg me 14:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep No part of WP:CRYSTAL applies here. This is not a mere product announcement. The device has already received tons of coverage and critical commentary. Even if the device never gets released, it will still warrant an article. --Odie5533 (talk) 14:16, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If it's getting so much coverage why is there only two references in the article and why is it only two lines. that tells me that a deletion or a redirect isn't far off base. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Er, because of a lazy article creator? What you're saying doesn't exactly show a good following through on WP:BEFORE...I can provide sources if necessary, but even the 2 already in the article are by reliable sources, and discuss it in a significant manner. Sergecross73 msg me 15:13, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I considered it to be WP:Crystal and as a deletionist, deletion will always be my main choice and especially if it's included elsewhere we don't need a small stub. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:20, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can be a deletionist, and you can vote delete, but you can't claim it falls under WP:CRYSTAL without at least supporting the assertion. Not all articles on Wikipedia start out as Featured Article Candidates. Some start with just two references. Some even less. That doesn't mean they meet WP:NOT or that they aren't notable. --Odie5533 (talk) 15:26, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Below are some reliable sources I've found, in about a minute of searching. They are not passing mentions, but detailed, dedicated articles, some of which are even hands-on impressions. All sources are reliable and third party, and some have even been covered sources outside of the typical "video game website".

I could go on and on. The topics is so far ahead of the minimum requirements of the WP:GNG its ridiculous. I guess it just seems no one from WP:VG has taken any interest in it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ehh, product announcements and opinion pieces. ansh666 20:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but they're very detailed announcements. Not just "Sony announces new VR project" things that span a sentence or two, or regurgitated PR announcements, but multiple paragraphs of details and specifications written by journalists themselves. And some "opinion pieces" are good, they can go towards making a "pre-release reception" section, a common path to establishing notability prior to a product's release. Sergecross73 msg me 20:29, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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