Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Omnitrix and Ultimatrix Aliens

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Arguments based in policy have been given a higher weighting than arguments which are not. Stifle (talk) 10:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Omnitrix and Ultimatrix Aliens

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Huge fansite listcruft that is not supported by reliable sources. TN X Man 16:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge back into List of Ben 10 characters. Cannonbolt2 (talk) 21:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This shoul stay! I have a petition to make it stay. One billion signatures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.95.243 (talk) 00:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do not put this back into ben 10 characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.95.243 (talk) 00:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please feel free to present a link to this petition! Cannonbolt2 (talk) 12:30, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: But need refinement.Fractyl (talk) 02:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Fractyl, it needs refined, but it makes more sense to make this a seperate entity, as the number of aliens will increase in Ultimate Alien and seperating it halfs the length of the characters artical, plus, the aliens are not seperate characters of themselves (minus Ghostfreak), so putting them in the characters artical wouldn't make sense.--Superx (talk) 03:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, all "Ultimate-" alien forms don't need branching off.Fractyl (talk) 04:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Listcruft. Ryan4314 (talk) 04:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I think we should keep this page, because the character page is getting too long. If whoever wants to delete it, where are you going to put it? You can't just make the article larger and larger. AlienX2010 (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where are we going to put it? In the bin hopefully, that's what deletion is. Saying that, I'm sure it'll be transcluded to Wikia anyway. Ryan4314 (talk) 21:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Since I'm the one who created this article,this will help people see the aliens more cleary. I created this because at the Ben 10 characters page, there were many problems. One the page was too long and there were many alien profiles missing. Please don't delete this because it's perfect!!!!!!!!!

It's far from perfect, it's entirely unreferenced and belongs on some sort of Ben 10 wiki, I suggest you copy the article here. Ryan4314 (talk) 13:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No because people are complaining that the aliens are hard to read and it is too far. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frgrfss (talk • contribs) 13:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Overlooking Frgrfss's disruptive edits for one moment. I'm prepared to defend him here. The information IS relevant. Just not own article worthy. Hence my above vote to keep the info in the character article where it belongs... Cannonbolt2 (talk) 14:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even so, if we wish to keep it we should remember Wikipedia:Splitting as well. The Omnitrix and Ultimatrix Aliens on its own is 75kb in size. Keeping it in the main article would make it quite unwieldy to read (Besides, it is such detailed information, that i doubt it should remain in the main article in the first place). Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 14:35, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if thats the case, then a seperate article is the way to go! However, if this AfD passes, I think the article will need moving to List of Omnitrix and Ultimatrix Aliens. Cannonbolt2 (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No it must stay here. We must keep this article. Who votes to keep this article!!!!!!!!!!1

Delete Looking at the arguments for "keep" above I read: "This shoul stay! I have a petition to make it stay. One billion signatures", "But need refinement", "it needs refined, but it makes more sense to make this a seperate entity, as the number of aliens will increase in Ultimate Alien and seperating it halfs the length of the characters artical, plus, the aliens are not seperate characters of themselves (minus Ghostfreak), so putting them in the characters artical wouldn't make sense", "Please don't delete this because it's perfect!!!!!!!!!". Not one single "keep" comment makes any attempt to address the reason for nomination given in the nomination, "Huge fansite listcruft that is not supported by reliable sources". Nobody has made any attempt to provide reliable sources, and as for "fansite listcruft", I should say the whole character of the "keep" comments actually confirms this, rather than contradicting it. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- poorly sourced fancruft from start to finish. Reyk _YO! 05:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.