Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Modern UI

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Metro (design language). Sam Walton (talk) 12:59, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Modern UI

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This DAB page is absolutely useless, not directing anyone to anything having to do with the topic. The first entry, Nullsoft is an installer and has nothing to do with a UI. The second is a redirect to a proprietary typography-based design language from Microsoft. Neither has anything to do with the name of this DAB page. If you take out those two off-topic links, there is nothing left. The Dissident Aggressor 21:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:05, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per The Dissident Aggressor's reasons. Seems rather sloppy... Dinkytown talk 16:25, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don't have a problem with deleting this page, because I agree with the nominator's rationale. However, I notified the user that created the disambiguation, User:Neo-Jay, and would like to know why (s)he created the page before I'm firmly swayed one way or the other. Tavix | Talk 02:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Modern UI was created on 26 October 2006 by Writtenonsand as a page redirecting Nullsoft Scriptable Install System, a section of which is titled "Modern user interface" (Modern UI). It was apparently at that time a valid redirect page per Wikipedia:Redirect (sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article). I changed it to a disambiguation page at 09:37, 15 August 2012, adding a disambiguation entry Modern UI (design language), which was an alternative name of Microsoft's Metro (design language) (see relative discussion at Talk:Metro (design language)#Metro Is Now Modern UI, Talk:Metro (design language)#Move to Modern UI, Talk:Modern UI#Metro (Design Language), etc.). Actually Modern UI (design language) was moved back to Metro (design language) on 12 August 2012‎ and Modern UI (design language) is still a redirect page now. I cannot see any reason why it cannot be a disambiguation entry for Modern UI. --Neo-Jay (talk) 05:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To have the entire concept of modern user interfaces redirect to a (probably-too-detailed) write-up of an obscure product's user interface was ridiculous. That element needs to be removed from the DAB page. That is unless you want to start adding entries for discussions of the thousands of other software product's user interfaces. The Dissident Aggressor 13:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree "Modern UI" is neither an industry/jargon term nor an explicitly named feature/copyright and seems to just refer to a revamped user interface. Might as well make a disambig page for "Reception" or "Sequel". Delete. ZappyGun (talk to me)What I've done for Wikipedia 07:58, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @DissidentAggressor: Even if Nullsoft Scriptable Install System was removed from the DAB page, Modern UI can still refer to Modern UI (design language). In this case, Modern UI should be changed to a redirect page, not be deleted. --Neo-Jay (talk) 12:13, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. I think the Nullsoft disambig is too specific and not helping anyone navigate the information on Wikipedia. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 14:04, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. In your logic, Modern UI should be changed to a page redirecting Metro (design language), and not be deleted. --Neo-Jay (talk) 12:24, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -Fimatic ^{(talk | contribs)} 03:56, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and move Metro (design language) to this location. Artw (talk) 16:42, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There was a request for moving Metro (design language) to Modern UI in August 2012, and it failed. You may initiate another moving request at Talk:Metro (design language). But before that, Modern UI should not be deleted and could only be changed from a disambiguation page to a redirect page. --Neo-Jay (talk) 12:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently they are not using that anymore, or are using it only informally, so I withdraw the suggestion. Artw (talk) 20:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aerospeed (Talk) 14:29, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Modern UI is a very commonly used term for Microsoft's new UI. Whether or not the design language article remains named Metro, Modern UI shouldn't be deleted. At least redirect. OTOH the Nullsoft thing was obscure to begin with, and a long time ago. Keeping it around in a prominent place just confuses things, so I would suggest jettisoning that. – Margin1522 (talk) 18:15, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Metro (design language) as a plausible search term. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 09:16, 30 December 2014 (UTC).[reply]
Delete. I'd agree with a redirect to Metro (design language) if that alternative name were mentioned (and sourced) there, but as it is not, a redirect would be confusing. Sandstein 10:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment – I just added it there, sourced to a Microsoft vice president speaking in 2012 at a big marketing and advertising conference, as reported by Microsoft News Center. – Margin1522 (talk) 11:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.