Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Many-to-many

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Mojo Hand (talk) 00:49, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Many-to-many

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I'm skeptical this is a "real" concept. There is one, low-quality source. We already have articles on multicast and Broadcasting (networking). This article claims "many-to-many" is "one of three major Internet computing paradigms", but this appears to be a false claim made up by a non-notable consultant. cagliost (talk) 10:30, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2021 October 25. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 10:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:31, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:02, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, this is a real concept and there are many sources on the subject,^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7] but the article is awful. Wikipedia itself is an example of this concept!

References

^ Chandler Harrison Stevens (June 1981). "Many-to many communication" (PDF). Massachusetts Institute of Technology. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
^ Damien Smith Pfister (2011). "Networked Expertise in the Era of Many-to-many Communication: On Wikipedia and Invention". Social Epistemology. 25 (3). Taylor & Francis: 217–231. doi:10.1080/02691728.2011.578306.
^ R. M. de Moraes; H. R. Sadjadpour; J. J. Garcia-Luna-Aceves (2007). Many-to-Many Communication: A New Approach for Collaboration in MANETs. IEEE INFOCOM 2007 - 26th IEEE International Conference on Computer Communications. pp. 1829–1837. doi:10.1109/INFCOM.2007.213.
^ Iulia Ghiu (2003). "Asymmetric quantum telecloning of d-level systems and broadcasting of entanglement to different locations using the "many-to-many" communication protocol". Physical Review A. 67 (1).
^ Dondeti, L.; Mukherjee, S.; Samal, A. (1999). "A distributed group key management scheme for secure many-to-many communication". Tech. Rep. PINTL-TR-207-99.
^ Renato M. de Moraes; Hamid R. Sadjadpour; J. J. Garcia-Luna-Aceves (December 2008). "Many-to-Many Communication for Mobile Ad Hoc Networks" (PDF). IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS. 7 (12).
^ Bogdan S. Chlebus; Dariusz R. Kowalski; Tomasz Radzik (2009). "Many-to-Many Communication in Radio Networks". Algorithmica. 54: 118–139. doi:10.1007/s00453-007-9123-5.

SailingInABathTub (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If this is kept it should be moved, as "many-to-many" can qualify lots of things apart from communication between computers. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:20, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 16:20, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep sources exist above, and the poor state is tempting to WP:TNT, but it doesn't qualify for deletion per WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Widefox; talk 23:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ primarily a TNT delete. Many-to-many (data model) is a separate (and notable) concept, but what we have here is just original research. The sources above are about network protocols and bear almost no resemblance to the current article. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 03:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, that's enough to avoid a TNT delete. Not sure this is primary over the data model, but that's a follow-up discussion. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 03:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, I've revised the article and added sources. SailingInABathTub (talk) 02:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep With the editing work of SailingInABathTub on clarifying the topic and adding references, this is now a well-referenced stub on many-to-many as a mode of social interaction, rather than of network protocols or database schema. I think it shows potential as an article, or at least a possible merge into an associated sociology article on the subject. In either case, verifiability has been established, and the topic seems likely notable, hence deletion is not warranted. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 03:41, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Chandler Harrison Stevens (June 1981). "Many-to many communication" (PDF). Massachusetts Institute of Technology. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

[2] Damien Smith Pfister (2011). "Networked Expertise in the Era of Many-to-many Communication: On Wikipedia and Invention". Social Epistemology. 25 (3). Taylor & Francis: 217–231. doi:10.1080/02691728.2011.578306.

[3] R. M. de Moraes; H. R. Sadjadpour; J. J. Garcia-Luna-Aceves (2007). Many-to-Many Communication: A New Approach for Collaboration in MANETs. IEEE INFOCOM 2007 - 26th IEEE International Conference on Computer Communications. pp. 1829–1837. doi:10.1109/INFCOM.2007.213.

[4] Iulia Ghiu (2003). "Asymmetric quantum telecloning of d-level systems and broadcasting of entanglement to different locations using the "many-to-many" communication protocol". Physical Review A. 67 (1).

[5] Dondeti, L.; Mukherjee, S.; Samal, A. (1999). "A distributed group key management scheme for secure many-to-many communication". Tech. Rep. PINTL-TR-207-99.

[6] Renato M. de Moraes; Hamid R. Sadjadpour; J. J. Garcia-Luna-Aceves (December 2008). "Many-to-Many Communication for Mobile Ad Hoc Networks" (PDF). IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS. 7 (12).

[7] Bogdan S. Chlebus; Dariusz R. Kowalski; Tomasz Radzik (2009). "Many-to-Many Communication in Radio Networks". Algorithmica. 54: 118–139. doi:10.1007/s00453-007-9123-5.

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