Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karin Smyth

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker ^talk 06:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Karin Smyth

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Non notable candidate for 2015 UK general election. Davidtrusting (talk) 01:06, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:POLITICIAN as an unelected candidate. If she is elected to Parliament, that is the time for an article about her. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 01:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:19, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Subject meet WP:GNG and obviously meet WP:BASIC. It also satisfy WP:POLITICIAN#2. I think she is notable enough. Not all politician must be elected. Wikicology (talk) 16:23, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly within the realm of possibility that she does satisfy NPOL #2, but this article as written and sourced fails to demonstrate that. You're correct that it is possible for an unelected political candidate to get over the notability bar, but they do have to be elected to attain an automatic presumption of notability. Absent that, you have to write and source the article well enough to get them past WP:GNG, which this article as written doesn't even approach — it takes a lot more than four citations of purely WP:ROUTINE campaign coverage to get there. Bearcat (talk) 22:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: There is some background discussion relevant to this article at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics_of_the_United_Kingdom#New_set_of_articles_on_minor_Labour_politicians_needing_review.2Fimprovement. While the article was created in good faith and I note the work done on it, I think this fails WP:POLITICIAN and for similar reasons as in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrian Heald and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Sobel. That is, bits and pieces from local newspaper reports about a local politician do not add up to the significant coverage required for notability. Bondegezou (talk) 14:54, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In the run up to a general election, these sort of articles are created all the time (I remember it well from 2008 until 2010). She is not yet a notable politician. If/When she is elected, the article can be re-created doktorb _words^deeds 15:10, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This, as written, is little more than a campaign brochure for a person whose only substantive claim of notability is being an unelected candidate in a future election. I'm not familiar enough with local politics in Bristol to assess the accuracy of Wikicology's claim above that she passes NPOL #2, but the article fails to credibly demonstrate or source that — apart from her candidacy itself, all we've got here is that she was formerly a constituency assistant to another MP (which doesn't make her notable). No prejudice against recreation in 2015 if she wins the election, but she's not entitled to keep an advert on Wikipedia in the meantime. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 22:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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