Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Internet marketing tools

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Internet marketing tools

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More or less a list of terms, references, with nearly no content whatsoever. Don't see anything salvageable here. Intention of creator may have been to create a vehicle for his own website (which has since been removed by another editor). OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - was just looking at this article to see if I could clean it up. Appears to be more of a fork of Internet marketing than anything else, anything that actually using a reliable source could be moved there as long as some actual content could be fleshed out for it. Kuru (talk) 16:14, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, I was nominating it for deletion at the same time as you. Article creator appears to have a COI with at least one of the external sites used as references, and I'm a little concerned at the amount of time he's spending creating SEO-mentality inbound links from tenuously connected articles (which I see that OhNoitsJamie has now caught and reverted). --McGeddon (talk) 16:17, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - saw it when it was brand new and thought that it might develop into something useful, but it doesn't actually seem to have much potential for doing so. --bonadea contributions talk 16:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, weakly. Content fork of internet marketing, and mostly an unwikified list of vaguely related topics. I don't think internet marketing has enough to do with the sorts of subjects that belong in an encyclopedia to support a list of internet marketing topics, but if such a list were called for this might be a start for it. But none of this material really is encyclopedia material anyways. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 21:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete useless list fork of Internet marketing. /ƒETCH COMMS / 03:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (WP:CSD#A10 possibly) or just Redirect to internet marketing. The topic already exists. Peacock (talk) 14:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems a worthwhile fork, albeit very undeveloped. It would massively distort the parent article if even this amount of material was merged in. Notability is unarguable. The article could develop as a list or an article without need for rename or deletion. --Dweller (talk) 14:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Random out-of-context list of tools, using primary sources and sources that are unrelated to each other (WP:SYNTH). --Enric Naval (talk) 14:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Stop the Deathrace insanity. WP:DEMOLISH

13:58, 3 February 2011 Creation. Is that the sound of a starting gun I hear?

14:56, 3 February 2011 (Proposing article for deletion per WP:PROD (WP:TW))

22:20, 3 February 2011 (Requesting speedy deletion (WP:CSD). (TW))

Well, that didn't work. 12 days pass.

But wait, what's this?

16:00, 15 February 2011 (Added WP:COI tag to article using TW) And they're off! Six minutes later...

16:06, 15 February 2011 (afd) - No link to the AFD, which is maybe why 4 minutes later we get...

16:10, 15 February 2011 (Nominated for deletion; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Internet marketing tools (2nd nomination))

So it's COI that gets you off, eh? Let me put a little something to you. COI without actual wrongdoing is Ad hominem. Think about it. "Intention of creator may have been to create a vehicle for his own website (WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN REMOVED BY ANOTHER EDITOR)" Lots of smokescreen, but where's the fire?

As for WP:FORK...They have the terms keyword, email marketing, search engine optimization, forum, and blog in common, linked on both articles. However, Internet marketing tools has a few terms that Internet marketing does not:

Affiliate Marketing Software • Affiliate networks • Affiliate Marketing Courses • Web Research Tools • Competitive Research Software • Keyword Research Software • Web Research Services • Email Marketing Tools • Email Marketing Software • Email Marketing Courses • Email Marketing Services • Auto Responders • Tools For Pay-Per-Click Marketing • Ad Tracking Software • Bid Management Software • Pay-Per-Click Campaign Management Services • Webmaster Resources • Website Hosting Services • Website Design Services • Website Building Software • Website and Traffic Analysis Software • Copywriting Software • (electronic) Shopping Carts • Electronic Payment Services • Internet Marketing Courses • Affiliate Marketing Courses • Email Marketing Courses • General Internet Marketing Courses • Search Engine Optimization Courses • Auction Marketing Courses • Search Engine Optimization Tools • Search Engine Optimization Software • Rank Checking Software • Link Submission Software • Search Engine Optimization Marketing Courses • Website and Traffic Analysis Software • Search Engine Optimization Services • Link Submission Services • Crawler Simulators • Analysis Tools • ROI Tracking Software • Split Testing Software • Website and Traffic Analysis Software • Conversion Tracking Software • Website and Traffic Analysis Services • Auction Tools • Auction Item Submission Software • Auction Item Tracking Software • Auction Marketing Courses • General Internet Marketing Tools • Search Engine Optimization Tools • Community Tools • Forums and Blogs • eBook Marketing • Auction Tools • E-mail Marketing • Web Research Tools • Tools For Pay-Per-Click Marketing

Let the people actually providing content to Wikipedia provide it. And if they happen to also be providing the service that is what WP is writing about, I don't really expect gratitude; that sentiment has been shown already to be unappreciated. But getting out of the way is still possible.

Anarchangel (talk) 05:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.